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Write my own content or rip off some free eBook. What do you think?

by feodor24
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Dear all,

I'm building a list in quitting smoking niche.

I'm wondering if it's a good idea to rip off some free ebook to send its part to my subscribers or write down some original content instead (or maybe both)?

Seems like it would be more efficient to concentrate my efforts on driving traffic to my squeeze page than polishing some original content for a smaller number of potential customers.

How do you solve this dilemma yourself?
#content #ebook #free #rip #traffic #write
  • Profile picture of the author ayma
    Originally Posted by feodor24 View Post

    Dear all,

    I'm building a list in quitting smoking niche.

    I'm wondering if it's a good idea to rip off some free ebook to send its part to my subscribers or write down some original content instead (or maybe both)?

    Seems like it would be more efficient to concentrate my efforts on driving traffic to my squeeze page that polishing some original content for a smaller number of potential customers.

    How do you solve this dilemma yourself?
    A well written unique article is always the best approach, don't you think? copies are always copies and undermines your credibility.
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    • Profile picture of the author Manuelcrc
      The best option is always to write the information yourself. Rehashed information doesn't build credibility.
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    • Profile picture of the author feodor24
      Originally Posted by ayma View Post

      A well written unique article is always the best approach, don't you think? copies are always copies and undermines your credibility.
      I do think so, I'm just considering putting more efforts in generating traffic... Plus how could my subscribers know if I take some not well-known ebook, rewrite it, add some personal details and info on how I felt when I was quitting, divide it into little pieces and send it as follow ups?

      I don't really believe that all of the guys out there building their list are writing original content from scratch... Just don't believe it. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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      • Profile picture of the author Vanfenix
        Hi Fedeor,

        You should be able to answer most of these questions by putting yourself in your prospects shoes.

        Do you want to see original content? Do you want to pay for information? -

        Also - more traffic does not mean liquid. You need clean traffic so you need to work with an affiliate network that exists already.
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Originally Posted by feodor24 View Post

        Plus how could my subscribers know if I take some not well-known ebook, rewrite it, add some personal details and info on how I felt when I was quitting, divide it into little pieces and send it as follow ups?

        I don't really believe that all of the guys out there building their list are writing original content from scratch... Just don't believe it. Correct me if I'm wrong.
        Well if it was my book, I'd find out and you'd know about it. I couldn't care less what you believe either.

        Can't we just delete these threads. :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author ayma
        Originally Posted by feodor24 View Post

        I do think so, I'm just considering putting more efforts in generating traffic... Plus how could my subscribers know if I take some not well-known ebook, rewrite it, add some personal details and info on how I felt when I was quitting, divide it into little pieces and send it as follow ups?

        I don't really believe that all of the guys out there building their list are writing original content from scratch... Just don't believe it. Correct me if I'm wrong.
        There is lots of different ways of doing things as you will see from the comments posted here.

        What I am trying to say is that if you can prove to your potential customers there is genuine content here and you are a guru in the field, there will be more interest.

        When I go to a website and see that the same thing have been said in some other site, that puts me off.

        But that is just me. If you believe that copying someones ebook really works, then give it a try.

        If it doesn't then may be you can give this poor guys opinion a thought.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurenswuyts
    I would write it yourself or let someone else write you unique content
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  • Profile picture of the author Mly2000
    im picking up you saying you quit. PERFECT oppurtunity there. write it yourself, outline your methods, your "feelings" as you said, and before you know it you will probably have a well put together report/ebook/ whatever you wish to call it.

    that will make the relationship more personal... which as far as i can tell, is what you want....
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  • Profile picture of the author ojari
    To get the best result from your effort,I think,writing your own original content is the best.If you don't have the time,outsource.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Do you not have any respect for another person's copyright?

    Free or otherwise, the person who wrote the ebook has intellectual property rights, and your ripping them off could put you at risk for legal actions.

    That having been said, words have copyright protection, but the ideas do not.

    Take the ideas and put them into your own words.
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    • Profile picture of the author marcuslim
      Simply copying off a piece of content will not add value to your prospects. You always want to over-deliver, even if you are giving something for free. So read through the ebook, identify the main ideas, perhaps combine them with your own ideas, and then present it in a way that packs the most value to your prospects.
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    • Profile picture of the author feodor24
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      Do you not have any respect for another person's copyright?

      Free or otherwise, the person who wrote the ebook has intellectual property rights, and your ripping them off could put you at risk for legal actions.
      I DO have respect for someone else's copyright. And I guess many other people have it too. But I guess it never stops them from doing what I mentioned in my initial post. Maybe some spinning, maybe some polishing and editing...

      One way or another most of the articles out there in Enzine or any other directories are based on someone else's information. All the copywriters are basing their work on someone's experience. Otherwise it's impossible to create content at all (except the case when you got some personal experience but it's a rare situation).

      What would you say to that?
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by feodor24 View Post

        One way or another most of the articles out there in Enzine or any other directories are based on someone else's information. All the copywriters are basing their work on someone's experience. Otherwise it's impossible to create content at all (except the case when you got some personal experience but it's a rare situation).

        What would you say to that?
        What would I say? I'd say thank you very much for letting us know that you have no original ideas and that your products will just be a little bit spun and polished ... basically someone else's work ... so we won't really need to waste our money on your products, will we?
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        • Profile picture of the author feodor24
          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          What would I say? I'd say thank you very much for letting us know that you have no original ideas and that your products will just be a little bit spun and polished ... basically someone else's work ... so we won't really need to waste our money on your products, will we?
          Well my strategy is all about putting some little affilate links to Clickbank products I promote at the bottom of each follow up message. Just some medication ads to help guys to avoid cravings. I think it won't hurt nobody (yet it may help someone while following my instructions on quitting and put some cash in my pocket).

          I got some ideas, I just want to make a rocket start Just $10 would make me happiest man ever, I tell you. Not because I desperately need some money but simple because I want to get a proof that it IS possible to make money in IM even for a such a noobish enthusiast like me.

          Don't judge me severe, I'm just getting into IM, you know.
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        • Profile picture of the author feodor24
          Originally Posted by John Henderson View Post

          You think that giving up smoking is a "rare situation"? :confused: Tens of millions of people have given up smoking and (if they're literate) could write their own unique story about how they did it and how it affected them.

          Feodor, I'm sorry if this sounds direct, but it sounds like you can't be bothered to write your own work and are looking for an excuse to copy someone else's. Don't do it, dude.

          Writing is a fantastic skill that will earn you money for the rest of your life. Start writing your own work now, and with time it will become easier and you'll become better.
          By rare situation I meant a case when copywriter has some personal experience regarding the topic he's working on. Look at the "DIY solar panels" articles for instance. There are alot of them on net.

          How many copywriters who wrote 'em REALLY built any solar panels?


          I'm just sitting at the lobby of 5-star hotel by now trying to figure out of how many time it would take for me to write down a series of 20 articles about the topic assuming the fact that I'm not a native speaker and hence have to double check each phrase (you don't wanna buy anything from a stranger speaking with russian accent and making grammatical mistakes all the time, do you?)
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          • Profile picture of the author John Henderson
            Originally Posted by feodor24 View Post

            By rare situation I meant a case when copywriter has some personal experience regarding the topic he's working on. Look at the "DIY solar panels" articles for instance. There are alot of them on net.

            How many copywriters who wrote 'em REALLY built any solar panels?
            Okay, that's a good point...

            Originally Posted by feodor24 View Post

            I'm just sitting at the lobby of 5-star hotel by now trying to figure out of how many time it would take for me to write down a series of 20 articles about the topic assuming the fact that I'm not a native speaker and hence have to double check each phrase (you don't wanna buy anything from a stranger speaking with russian accent and making grammatical mistakes all the time, do you?)
            Feodor, I know BRITISH people whose English isn't as good as yours, so don't be too hard on yourself!

            I'm curious about the Russian market: Are there many customers for digital information products? Is there a reliable on-line payment method in Russia?
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            • Profile picture of the author feodor24
              Originally Posted by John Henderson View Post

              Okay, that's a good point...


              Feodor, I know BRITISH people whose English isn't as good as yours, so don't be too hard on yourself!

              I'm curious about the Russian market: Are there many customers for digital information products? Is there a reliable on-line payment method in Russia?
              Thanks you that, I'm constantly told how good my English is (personally I don't think so especially when it comes to understanding people speaking with britsh, irish and australian accents).

              Here's what I can tell you about russian market: russians have no respect for copyrightes AT ALL, they could spend sleepless nights writing cracks or trying to figure out how to bypass some legal protection instead of paying silly ten bucks to make their lifes easier. They are the most dedicated legal rights pirates in the whole world because they are driven by idea, not money.

              I travelled the world, been here and there and I can tell you that for russians it's a matter of principle to pay not a single penny to those "f***ing bourgeois".

              There're some relatevely reliable paying methods in Russia but they are eigher not comfortable to work with or completely unusable for foreigners. I've heard Paypal is about to enter russian market but it seems like it will take a couple of years for it to establish some significant presence.

              My personal advice is to stick with western or maybe asian markets instead and do not try to bother with russians since it simply doesn;t worth it. You see, I'm a russian and I'm about to work on western markets instead of Mother Russia. That could tell you something. And yes, I WANNA MOVE THE HELL OUT OF THIS SNOWY DESERT! BETTER DEAD THAN RED, YEAH!
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              • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                Originally Posted by feodor24 View Post

                Here's what I can tell you about russian market: russians have no respect for copyrightes AT ALL, they could spend sleepless nights writing cracks or trying to figure out how to bypass some legal protection instead of paying silly ten bucks to make their lifes easier. They are the most dedicated legal rights pirates in the whole world because they are driven by idea, not money.

                I travelled the world, been here and there and I can tell you that for russians it's a matter of principle to pay not a single penny to those "f***ing bourgeois".
                Herein lies the truth. Your English is pretty good. I don't think you misunderstand the spoken or written English word at all. You fully understand the meaning of rip, rip off, steal, etc. The following quotes from your post is the real problem here.

                russians have no respect for copyrightes AT ALL

                it's a matter of principle to pay not a single penny to those "f***ing bourgeois
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                • Profile picture of the author paulie888
                  Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                  Herein lies the truth. Your English is pretty good. I don't think you misunderstand the spoken or written English word at all. You fully understand the meaning of rip, rip off, steal, etc. The following quotes from your post is the real problem here.
                  It seems like he has a real issue respecting copyright laws. While I can appreciate that this is not an issue at all over there, he'll find out very quickly that this can get him in a whole lot of legal hot water in the western hemisphere.

                  At least he had the guts to ask about it - now that he knows how things work, I hope he doesn't continue to rip off copyrighted stuff that he finds in his quest to market information products to prospects in the western hemisphere!
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  • Profile picture of the author NigelJohnson
    Why not hire someone on fiverr to write you something?
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    Or even better, why not hire a warrior to help you out?

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  • Profile picture of the author Dj Taylor
    I would say writing your own content is the way to go. In my opinion, original content will always beat out duplicate content.
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  • Profile picture of the author shmeeko69
    Originally Posted by feodor24 View Post

    Dear all,

    I'm building a list in quitting smoking niche.

    I'm wondering if it's a good idea to rip off some free ebook to send its part to my subscribers or write down some original content instead (or maybe both)?

    Seems like it would be more efficient to concentrate my efforts on driving traffic to my squeeze page than polishing some original content for a smaller number of potential customers.

    How do you solve this dilemma yourself?
    It should always be your own content and not someone else's. If you go in with the wrong mindset at the beginning of your journey then, you're doomed to fail, as duplicate content is an abolsute no no.

    Mark :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
    Have you considered that many of your fellow
    Warriors are in the same niche?

    If I discovered someone "ripping off" my content,
    I'd rip them a new one.

    Look up plagiarism. Copying another person's work
    is just plain wrong.

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Luxton
      Originally Posted by John Taylor View Post

      Have you considered that many of your fellow
      Warriors are in the same niche?

      If I discovered someone "ripping off" my content,
      I'd rip them a new one.

      Look up plagiarism. Copying another person's work
      is just plain wrong.

      John
      Have you considered this might be yet another thread where the OP is taking the piss?

      Compare the naivete of the question with the implied knowledge of IM demonstrated by the whole post.

      Of course, I may be completely wrong


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      • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
        Martin,

        Originally Posted by Martin Luxton View Post

        Have you considered this might be yet another thread where the OP is taking the piss?
        No, but then it is Monday morning. ;-)

        And, my response isn't just aimed at the OP. It
        seems a number of people in this thread need a
        bit of education about what's wrong with "ripping
        off" content from a free ebook.

        John
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        • Profile picture of the author Martin Luxton
          Originally Posted by John Taylor View Post

          Martin,



          No, but then it is Monday morning. ;-)

          And, my response isn't just aimed at the OP. It
          seems a number of people in this thread need a
          bit of education about what's wrong with "ripping
          off" content from a free ebook.

          John
          In that case, don't make your post too informative - you wouldn't want to give them too much 'free' content.


          Martin
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      • Profile picture of the author feodor24
        Originally Posted by Martin Luxton View Post

        Have you considered this might be yet another thread where the OP is taking the piss?

        Compare the naivete of the question with the implied knowledge of IM demonstrated by the whole post.

        Martin

        Well I got no idea what OP is really ) My question is really noobish I know and I'm wondering is there any "implied knowledge" of IM industry... I'm just a noob setting my first list and that's all )
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        • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
          Originally Posted by feodor24 View Post

          Well I got no idea what OP is really ) My question is really noobish I know and I'm wondering is there any "implied knowledge" of IM industry... I'm just a noob setting my first list and that's all )
          OP is opening post, opening person or whatever...You.

          I think from the reactions you're receiving here Feodor, from experienced IMers, is that "ripping" off other peoples work is not looked upon highly.

          Basically don't do it, as for implied knowledge, there's a wealth of it.

          There are things such as copyscape that makes it quite easy to find derivative works.

          Frankly though, you seem to have made your mind up, you seem to have made assumptions about Ezine with no proof and the fact you don't seem to care what others think here, says a lot. TPW knows a lot about this, I couldn't help laugh when you said "What do think of that" to him.

          But I am glad you said this...

          Yes, that's what I actually meant! Surely I don;t wanna violate any laws or policies.
          It's better that way.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Dybka
          Ripping off anyone online or offline is not the way to go,if you want to build a long term respectable business you need to be original,do things the proper way and you will succeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    You can't just rip off someone's ebook. I'm sure you know that this is copyright infringement, and furthermore you're not delivering anything of value to your subscribers, especially if you're planning on ripping off something popular that many people have come across before.

    Don't try to "rewrite" it either with software or manually - just write it from scratch, or write about something (not necessarily groundbreaking or unique) from your perspective in a way that delivers real value to your subscribers.

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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Originally Posted by feodor24 View Post

    I'm wondering if it's a good idea to rip off some free ebook to send its part to my subscribers or write down some original content instead (or maybe both)?
    Rip off someone else's work? You're seriously asking us this? :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    Why "rip off" an ebook when there is an abundance of PLR out there in the quit smoking niche?

    Grab a PLR book with giveaway rights, read it and then rewrite it to put your own spin on it.

    I personally don't think you have to write up a whole unique book and if the PLR book is well written and says what you want to say you can even use it as-is, but here's the thing ....

    You don't want to just grab any quick thing just to have something to give away to your list because your relationship starts with the free book you are giving away.

    So, if it is crappy you will have a hard time convincing your list to buy. A bit of time spent up front will pay off in the end.

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    • Profile picture of the author feodor24
      Originally Posted by cashcow View Post

      Why "rip off" an ebook when there is an abundance of PLR out there in the quit smoking niche?

      Grab a PLR book with giveaway rights, read it and then rewrite it to put your own spin on it.

      Lee
      Yes, that's what I actually meant! Surely I don;t wanna violate any laws or policies.

      Does PLR means that I have to buy it from someone first? Are there any free PLR titles?

      And can you please tell me whether I really should send some eBook first to draw my subscribers' attention? I just planned to use a stack of follow up messages... Any advice on this?
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      • Profile picture of the author cashcow
        Originally Posted by feodor24 View Post

        Yes, that's what I actually meant! Surely I don;t wanna violate any laws or policies.

        Does PLR means that I have to buy it from someone first? Are there any free PLR titles?

        And can you please tell me whether I really should send some eBook first to draw my subscribers' attention? I just planned to use a stack of follow up messages... Any advice on this?
        Oh, good, I was hoping you meant that and not stealing someones work!

        I think there are free PLR books you can use, or you could use free PLR articles and make them into a report.

        People do say that you should "bribe" people to subscribe to your list with a free ebook, so you are on the right track if you want to follow that method. I'm sure there are other ways to get people on your list but this is one of them.

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        • Profile picture of the author feodor24
          Originally Posted by cashcow View Post


          People do say that you should "bribe" people to subscribe to your list with a free ebook, so you are on the right track if you want to follow that method. I'm sure there are other ways to get people on your list but this is one of them.

          Lee
          Hmm.. never thought I will have to give them some free eBook first... though it sounds reasonable... But then what's the use for them to keep reading follow ups each day and clicking the ads I put in them if they already got a copy of the book with quitting method to follow?
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          • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
            Originally Posted by feodor24 View Post

            Hmm.. never thought I will have to give them some free eBook first... though it sounds reasonable... But then what's the use for them to keep reading follow ups each day and clicking the ads I put in them if they already got a copy of the book with quitting method to follow?
            Couldn't the e-book be a covert sales letter in the form of an e-book? Telling them why they need to give up, how you have a new way to give up and how you used these methods to give up. You don't actually give out all your methods in the e-book.

            They get the e-book by joining your mailing list. It's an added incentive to get the information that will follow in your future emails.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Dybka
        Originally Posted by feodor24 View Post

        Yes, that's what I actually meant! Surely I don;t wanna violate any laws or policies.

        Does PLR means that I have to buy it from someone first? Are there any free PLR titles?

        And can you please tell me whether I really should send some eBook first to draw my subscribers' attention? I just planned to use a stack of follow up messages... Any advice on this?
        If you meant PLR then it's not ripping off anyone,you have full rights to use PLR anyway you choose.
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        • Profile picture of the author feodor24
          Originally Posted by Steven Dybka View Post

          If you meant PLR then it's not ripping off anyone,you have full rights to use PLR anyway you choose.
          Is there any FREE PLR content at all? If yes (I bet it is), then why people are giving away their work along with their copyrights? What's the use to do that?
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          • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
            Originally Posted by feodor24 View Post

            Is there any FREE PLR content at all? If yes (I bet it is), then why people are giving away their work along with their copyrights? What's the use to do that?
            Definition of Private Label Rights...

            Private label rights is a concept similar to reselling, but the merchant is permitted to modify the product to fit his or her needs. Typical PLR products are articles, reports, eBooks, and autoresponders.
            Hence a lack of free PLR, that would defeat the object of writing it the first place really.
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          • Profile picture of the author Steven Dybka
            Originally Posted by feodor24 View Post

            Is there any FREE PLR content at all? If yes (I bet it is), then why people are giving away their work along with their copyrights? What's the use to do that?
            That's the whole point of PLR, there is no copyright and most PLR is sold and not given away so basically there are people writing PLR for that same reason, to sell it.
            I'm sure you can find some people selling PLR in this forum,try a google search for PLR articles.


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      • Profile picture of the author Joe Stewart
        Originally Posted by feodor24 View Post

        Yes, that's what I actually meant! Surely I don;t wanna violate any laws or policies.
        See, now that's different. Your headline to the thread was asking if anyone would actually endorse stealing from someone elses hard work. That's unacceptable. I can understand if English isn't your first language, but you must be careful what you say. Sheesh, I speak fluent English, but I'm still misunderstood sometimes because it's hard to always determine someone's intent without seeing their body language, facial expressions, etc.

        Just try to be careful in the future, okay?

        Originally Posted by feodor24 View Post

        Does PLR means that I have to buy it from someone first? Are there any free PLR titles?
        You can find free PLR online by just typing "free plr" into Google, but most of it's garbage. PLR is cheap. If you plan to start a business you need to be willing to invest $10-$20.00 and get something you can use that's good quality.

        You can also do research at article directories, in the public domain, government sites, media sites, etc and get ideas from there. The key is not to steal someone's intellectual property. That can get you in BIG trouble and also quickly ruin your reputation.

        Originally Posted by feodor24 View Post

        And can you please tell me whether I really should send some eBook first to draw my subscribers' attention? I just planned to use a stack of follow up messages... Any advice on this?
        You can offer a free report or you can offer a 5-7 day ecourse and follow up by autoresponder. You'd then simply follow up 1-2 times per week after the course with great information and an occasional offer.

        The problem with free reports is that many times people will download them and then immediately unsubscribe. Also, they may let it sit on their hard drive, get distracted by something new and never read it.

        The problem with ecourses is spam complaints by those that forgot they subscribed, getting past spam filters, etc.

        You should test both ways and find out what works best for you. However, if you do a free report make sure you put a page in the very back that says "Recommended Resources" and list 2-3 products with affiliate links as well as a link back to your site.

        I hope that helps to get you started. :-)

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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    I was a bit taken aback when I read the OP but I wonder whether he meant using PLR when talking about "ripping off" surely no one would be silly enough otherwise to come in asking that type of question!

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    Write a content that make sense. I would rather write it on my own idea or seek a help to others.
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  • Profile picture of the author mattangelo1985
    To find the most excellent result from your shot, I believe, script your own unique Article is the best. If you don't include the instance, subcontract.
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  • Profile picture of the author WAWarrior
    I agree with Lee. Get hold of some PLRs out there; do some research, and rewrite it. Quality is key. Buyers will seldom ask for refund if they get value out of the products.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    I cant believe youre even asking this?

    You copy my stuff and Ill personally slap you.
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  • Profile picture of the author blueseagullmarketing
    Write some unique content or hire a freelancer. You will come across as less credible if you start passing information that is not yours. Be an expert in what you are talking about and your readers will take note!
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    • Profile picture of the author eric w
      Unique content can be something you write yourself or you can rewrite PLR to be unique.

      PLR gives you a starting point..you don't have to come up with your own topics and niches.

      PLR can be packaged for reselling, given away as a bonus, and/or used as a niche finder.

      Every PLR product is several niches in and of itself!....especially PLR Articles...you can get ideas for hundreds, & even thousands of micro niches from just 50 PLR articles.

      You just have to drill down and know how to drill sideways from your base PLR.

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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        Hmmm...let me see.

        Message to subscribers:

        "I don't know a dang blasted thing about the stop smoking niche. I just
        got a hold of some free PLR stuff, changed a few words, and am now
        pawning this rubbish off on you just so you'll buy my sh*t."

        To the OP (original poster) Do yourself a favor. Don't quit your day job.

        The success you will probably have in Internet marketing will probably me
        measurable inside a thimble.

        Un-freaking-believable. :rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author feodor24
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          Hmmm...let me see.

          Message to subscribers:

          "I don't know a dang blasted thing about the stop smoking niche. I just
          got a hold of some free PLR stuff, changed a few words, and am now
          pawning this rubbish off on you just so you'll buy my sh*t."
          As I told before, I quit myself recently. Ok, maybe I'm a kinda noobish and naive but I'm really gonna work hard to achieve my goals.

          P.S.: I will do myself a favor PMing you later when I will have some results to show to prove you was wrong
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        • Profile picture of the author Deedee11
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          Hmmm...let me see.

          Message to subscribers:

          "I don't know a dang blasted thing about the stop smoking niche. I just
          got a hold of some free PLR stuff, changed a few words, and am now
          pawning this rubbish off on you just so you'll buy my sh*t."

          To the OP (original poster) Do yourself a favor. Don't quit your day job.

          The success you will probably have in Internet marketing will probably me
          measurable inside a thimble.

          Un-freaking-believable. :rolleyes:
          and so . . . you were never a newbie?????? Maybe he didn't post a great title, but he is interacting with the advice given . . . or maybe you didn't take the time to read the whole thread. Have some compassion and contribute to the greater good. or not.

          Success to those that take ACTION!
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      • Profile picture of the author steveshills
        Just use the plr or articles as the base of your research, people this is life, do what needs to be done to earn an income but within reason, most wsos here are unique ripped of content, because its unique, they got the ideas from some where, all i can say is add value, and your be onto a winner.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Originally Posted by feodor24 View Post

    Dear all,

    I'm building a list in quitting smoking niche.

    I'm wondering if it's a good idea to rip off some free ebook to send its part to my subscribers or write down some original content instead (or maybe both)?

    Seems like it would be more efficient to concentrate my efforts on driving traffic to my squeeze page than polishing some original content for a smaller number of potential customers.

    How do you solve this dilemma yourself?
    Seriously? If you want your subscribers to take you seriously and trust you, original content is the best way to go. you're supposed to be building long-term trust and relationships, not just looking at them as quick money.

    That said, if you use PLR, you NEED to make it truly unique. You can use it to generate ideas, but still you need to write your own content. Yes it's work, yes it can be tedious, but if you consider some of the JOBS out there, its really a small price to pay. This is what I think whenever I catch myself complaining
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    I have an ebook in the stop smoking niche that I am considering selling as PLR, perhaps you would be interested to check it out and use it.
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    • Profile picture of the author feodor24
      Originally Posted by redicelander View Post

      I have an ebook in the stop smoking niche that I am considering selling as PLR, perhaps you would be interested to check it out and use it.
      I'm not able to send PMs since my post counter is only 30 but can recieve some. Could you please PM me your email address in order to negotiate details?
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  • Profile picture of the author davidfstyles
    Personally I usually write my own original content. If you send some good content to your list, make sure to put it up on your website as well. Depending on the keyword, if it's unique, relevant content it won't take that much effort to do some on-page and off-page SEO work to start getting it ranked in the SERP's to bring in free traffic to your site. Hope that helps, David.
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  • Profile picture of the author VictoriaIpri
    Feodor, you don't say why you want to enter the 'quit smoking' market. Perhaps you should begin by working in markets where you already have some knowledge...in this way, creating original content will be easier for you.

    Having said this, I agree with the other posters about PLR. It is cheap, and it reads like it's cheap. Basically, when you see those ads asking for copywriters to create articles at $1 each, no doubt this is a PLR-type project. However, the upside of PLR is that an article, report or ebook can give you a foundation from which to begin.

    Someone else mentioned taking a PLR product and adding your own spin. This could work, if done carefully. You would probably still need to hire a professional to help you get it right.

    The bottom line, as already mentioned, is value and authenticity. Your potential readers are seeking real solutions to the challenges of quitting smoking. If they buy your product and discover it is poorly put together, inaccurate, out-of-date, etc., you will be left with tons of requests for refunds, and that's certainly not the direction you want to go in. It's worth it to put some time and money upfront to get it right from the starting gate.
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  • Profile picture of the author bigslamgyrl
    Originally Posted by ncmedia View Post

    You give your prospects value, in the truest sense of the word.

    Write the thing properly or outsource it, it's not about focusing on any one element it's about maximizing every single contact point, read, click, etc. and why in the world would you want to pass off such an important piece of your presell/funnel to random copy/paste stuff?
    I agree, it might seem like a hassle to outsource this, but there are plenty of warriors who are looking for work that would do this for a great price. Let them deal with it, and you work on what you need to work on.
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