Please Step Away From The Haterade...

Jeremy Kelsall · 12-13-2008, 09:34 PM

I'm usually fairly mild mannered, keep to myself, and really don't care what other people do one way or the other.

However, it's come to my attention that the world of internet marketers appears to be full of what are known as "haters"

So, what exactly is a hater?

A hater is a pathetic piece of trash that can't stand to see someone else do well...someone that would rather talk trash about other people rather than focus on their own business...basically, someone that just flat out annoys me.

Recently - Well, actually about 20 minutes ago, I was sent a transcript of a Skype conversation that one of my friends had with another party. For whatever reason, the other person was bashing me and the way I price my products etc...

But, you know what really pisses me off? They have basically tried to sabotage me a couple of times by their own admission by rating my threads with one star and even asking others to make posts to a couple of my threads trying to somehow prove my information wrong.

Normally, I would be flattered. Hell, you know your doing something half way right if people are trying to find a way to knock you down so that they can get to where you are or where your going, right? The problem is that the person in question is someone that I considered to be a "friend" in at least a small way. We chatted on skype, exchanged PM's, bounced ideas off of each other etc...

I guess it just goes to prove the smile in your face and stab you in the back saying, huh?

Now this isn't just a rant here...

There are a couple of lessons to be learned here.

1. Don't trust people too easily
2. Watch your ass
3. Mind your own business

It's whatever really...I will be contacting this person directly to essentially let the know what I think which will no doubt contain language that is not meant for a forum setting.

However, for any of you that are actually working your business the right way, beware of the dreaded haters...they will come for you one day

James Schramko · 12-13-2008, 09:44 PM

Right on.

It seems success can bring out a lot of resistance in people. It makes them feel like losers so they have to react angrily and in a petty way.

Some people are so focused on what is wrong they miss the what is right part.

Always looking for the hole in the donut. They find it too. This means they can say they were right.

Here is this unusual thing. If they spent the same hours doing something positive they could have a positive result and they would not have to hate themselves anymore.

Robert Oliver · 12-13-2008, 09:51 PM

Successful people always attract the haters,jealous, failures who
have not succeeded in life. They are failures and want to bring
others down with them. They cannot stand others having what
they do not have.

Bashing and trashing is all they know. They would be better off
figuring out how to succeed than to try and drag others into the
gutter with them.

Tell them to grow up!!!

Robert

ShayRockhold · 12-13-2008, 10:20 PM

If people would focus on their own business efforts instead of bashing others, the world would be a better place and the bashers might actually make some money.

Sorry this happened.

Lance K · 12-13-2008, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

It's whatever really...I will be contacting this person directly to essentially let the know what I think which will no doubt contain language that is not meant for a forum setting.

Can I watch?

nicholasb · 12-13-2008, 10:39 PM

the world is full of these people, they will never really be a success, and as long as you run your business with the right intentions and focus on providing value and helping others you really cant lose

Joanne Greco · 12-13-2008, 10:56 PM

I just wanted to say that I'm sorry that happened to you. It's happened to me a handful of times over the last 10 years of me being online and it sucks.

laurieslegends · 12-13-2008, 11:09 PM

Jeremy,

I know this must be frustrating to you, but remember what goes around, comes around and as long as you go forward, and they keep doing the wrong thing, good will only come your way.

Don't let your attitude or ambition be brought down by the negative vibes of another, in so doing, you would be giving away your own positive energy.

I am sorry such a negative thing happened to such a nice person as you.

Laurie

Steven Carl Kelly · 12-13-2008, 11:12 PM

No time to focus on the haters, it takes away from the time focused on increasing earnings.

Richard Tunnah · 12-13-2008, 11:24 PM

Hi Jeremy,
Here's a really bad story to add to what you say. My mate runs a successful paid membership site for about 10 years now. Unfortunately he's had major issues with some guys he banned for being abusive. He refunded them and they set up their own competing site. However they reported him for illegally claiming welfare, not paying taxes, running an illegal business to trading standards and most worrying reported to the police he was going to kidnap his own kids (he's long seperated from his kids mother). This lead to police turning up at his 6 year old son's school as they couldn't contact him! None of which was true but he had to spend time with each entity to prove otherwise.
So yes you get a few nutters.

Rich

Loren Woirhaye · 12-13-2008, 11:28 PM

“The worst part of success is trying to find someone who is happy for you.”

- Bette Midler

michaelmac · 12-13-2008, 11:38 PM

How much for a ringside seat and popcorn Jeremy?

Michael

Richard Tunnah · 12-13-2008, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye

“The worst part of success is trying to find someone who is happy for you.”

- Bette Midler

It's when you discover who your true family and friends are I think!

Rich

Paul Myers · 12-14-2008, 12:52 AM

Jeremy,

Oooo! Ooooo! As a writer, I really like to see a good word coined. And that one is good. It's perfect. It's... It's... SWIPED!

"Hatorade" .... Sweet.

Paul

zapseo · 12-14-2008, 01:21 AM

Judy, as a friend of Jeremy's, advises him to negotiate royalties ...LOL

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markquinn · 12-14-2008, 02:31 AM

Interesting term and was thinking it sounded familiar:

Urban Dictionary: haterade

Kind of interesting definitions there as well.

Especially #3:

A beverage comsumed by haters to refuel their hating campabilities.
Suzy was hating on Jeromiah, so I asked, "Suzy, have you been sippin on that Haterade?"

Paul Myers · 12-14-2008, 03:02 AM

Mark,

Thanks. That's even more fun. A word that fits that I haven't heard before.

Appreciate the pointer.

Paul

Martin Luxton · 12-14-2008, 03:03 AM

Jeremy,

Just given you 5 stars. Hope that redresses the balance a bit.

Last night, I was thinking of posting about a similar trend I've noticed. There have been a lot of posts recently that went beyond scepticism to the point of insulting some well-established and honourable Warriors.

Illegitimi non carborundum!!!

And before the Haterade overodosees jump down my throat, I know it's bastardized Latin.

Martin

Paul Myers · 12-14-2008, 03:05 AM

Martin,

Quote:

Illegitimi non carborundum!

"Bastardized Latin?" THAT was clever.

I love that quote. And the etymology of the thing is really fun.

Paul

GoGetta · 12-14-2008, 03:31 AM

Right on the money Jeremy,

Haters only sniff around when you are winning!

I would take it as a compliment!

GoGetta

ExRat · 12-14-2008, 03:35 AM

Hi Martin,

Quote:

Illegitimi non carborundum!!!

And before the Haterade overodosees jump down my throat, I know it's bastardized Latin.

I read it as Luxtonized twaddle.

John Henderson · 12-14-2008, 04:39 AM

Thanks for the OP, Jeremy. Before I read this thread, I couldn't understand the regular appearance of people who turned up just to criticise guys like Steven Wagenheim -- but the replies here have gone some way to explaining it.

12-13-2008, 09:34 PM	#1
Jeremy Kelsall Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: , , USA. Posts: 3,259 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 31 Thanked 508 Times in 199 Posts	Please Step Away From The Haterade... I'm usually fairly mild mannered, keep to myself, and really don't care what other people do one way or the other. However, it's come to my attention that the world of internet marketers appears to be full of what are known as "haters" So, what exactly is a hater? A hater is a pathetic piece of trash that can't stand to see someone else do well...someone that would rather talk trash about other people rather than focus on their own business...basically, someone that just flat out annoys me. Recently - Well, actually about 20 minutes ago, I was sent a transcript of a Skype conversation that one of my friends had with another party. For whatever reason, the other person was bashing me and the way I price my products etc... But, you know what really pisses me off? They have basically tried to sabotage me a couple of times by their own admission by rating my threads with one star and even asking others to make posts to a couple of my threads trying to somehow prove my information wrong. Normally, I would be flattered. Hell, you know your doing something half way right if people are trying to find a way to knock you down so that they can get to where you are or where your going, right? The problem is that the person in question is someone that I considered to be a "friend" in at least a small way. We chatted on skype, exchanged PM's, bounced ideas off of each other etc... I guess it just goes to prove the smile in your face and stab you in the back saying, huh? Now this isn't just a rant here... There are a couple of lessons to be learned here. 1. Don't trust people too easily 2. Watch your ass 3. Mind your own business It's whatever really...I will be contacting this person directly to essentially let the know what I think which will no doubt contain language that is not meant for a forum setting. However, for any of you that are actually working your business the right way, beware of the dreaded haters...they will come for you one day
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12-13-2008, 09:44 PM	#2
James Schramko Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia. Posts: 2,927 Thanks: 85 Thanked 279 Times in 131 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Please Step Away From The Haterade... Right on. It seems success can bring out a lot of resistance in people. It makes them feel like losers so they have to react angrily and in a petty way. Some people are so focused on what is wrong they miss the what is right part. Always looking for the hole in the donut. They find it too. This means they can say they were right. Here is this unusual thing. If they spent the same hours doing something positive they could have a positive result and they would not have to hate themselves anymore.
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12-13-2008, 09:51 PM	#3
Robert Oliver TexasBoy Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Texas, USA. Posts: 611 Thanks: 1 Thanked 29 Times in 23 Posts Contact Info	Re: Please Step Away From The Haterade... Successful people always attract the haters,jealous, failures who have not succeeded in life. They are failures and want to bring others down with them. They cannot stand others having what they do not have. Bashing and trashing is all they know. They would be better off figuring out how to succeed than to try and drag others into the gutter with them. Tell them to grow up!!! Robert
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Joanne Greco Libertarian Mama Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Florida by way of NYC Posts: 208 Thanks: 19 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts Social Networking	Re: Please Step Away From The Haterade... I just wanted to say that I'm sorry that happened to you. It's happened to me a handful of times over the last 10 years of me being online and it sucks.
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12-13-2008, 11:09 PM	#8
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12-13-2008, 11:12 PM	#9
Steven Carl Kelly Trust Christ Alone Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,246 Thanks: 11 Thanked 157 Times in 88 Posts	Re: Please Step Away From The Haterade... No time to focus on the haters, it takes away from the time focused on increasing earnings.
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12-13-2008, 11:24 PM	#10
Richard Tunnah Just hitting the mouse! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: York , United Kingdom. Posts: 1,275 Thanks: 127 Thanked 45 Times in 40 Posts Social Networking	Re: Please Step Away From The Haterade... Hi Jeremy, Here's a really bad story to add to what you say. My mate runs a successful paid membership site for about 10 years now. Unfortunately he's had major issues with some guys he banned for being abusive. He refunded them and they set up their own competing site. However they reported him for illegally claiming welfare, not paying taxes, running an illegal business to trading standards and most worrying reported to the police he was going to kidnap his own kids (he's long seperated from his kids mother). This lead to police turning up at his 6 year old son's school as they couldn't contact him! None of which was true but he had to spend time with each entity to prove otherwise. So yes you get a few nutters. Rich

12-13-2008, 11:28 PM	#11
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12-14-2008, 12:52 AM	#14
Paul Myers Zen Redneck Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Erie, PA Posts: 7,602 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 202 Thanked 1,467 Times in 399 Posts Social Networking	Re: Please Step Away From The Haterade... Jeremy, Oooo! Ooooo! As a writer, I really like to see a good word coined. And that one is good. It's perfect. It's... It's... SWIPED! "Hatorade" .... Sweet. Paul
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markquinn HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: , , USA. Posts: 430 Blog Entries: 6 Thanks: 37 Thanked 25 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Please Step Away From The Haterade... Interesting term and was thinking it sounded familiar: Urban Dictionary: haterade Kind of interesting definitions there as well. Especially #3: A beverage comsumed by haters to refuel their hating campabilities. Suzy was hating on Jeromiah, so I asked, "Suzy, have you been sippin on that Haterade?"
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12-14-2008, 03:02 AM	#17
Paul Myers Zen Redneck Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Erie, PA Posts: 7,602 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 202 Thanked 1,467 Times in 399 Posts Social Networking	Re: Please Step Away From The Haterade... Mark, Thanks. That's even more fun. A word that fits that I haven't heard before. Appreciate the pointer. Paul
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12-14-2008, 03:03 AM	#18
Martin Luxton AS SEEN ON BBC TV Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Izmir/Perth (Oz) Posts: 1,661 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 280 Thanked 234 Times in 117 Posts	Re: Please Step Away From The Haterade... Jeremy, Just given you 5 stars. Hope that redresses the balance a bit. Last night, I was thinking of posting about a similar trend I've noticed. There have been a lot of posts recently that went beyond scepticism to the point of insulting some well-established and honourable Warriors. Illegitimi non carborundum!!! And before the Haterade overodosees jump down my throat, I know it's bastardized Latin. Martin

12-14-2008, 03:31 AM	#20
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12-14-2008, 04:39 AM	#22
John Henderson HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: West Sussex, UK Posts: 288 Thanks: 79 Thanked 40 Times in 31 Posts	Re: Please Step Away From The Haterade... Thanks for the OP, Jeremy. Before I read this thread, I couldn't understand the regular appearance of people who turned up just to criticise guys like Steven Wagenheim -- but the replies here have gone some way to explaining it.