Any Marketing Majors?

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Are any of you Warriors currently a Marketing major or have a Marketing Degree? If so, do you find it helpful? Did you enjoy it? I'm currently a Kinesiology major, and I'm just not happy with it. I'm considering switching my major to marketing because a) I think I will enjoy it, and b) I am hopeful that it would be helpful in my future. Any insight?
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  • Profile picture of the author rbrShorty
    Well, the question is very broad and the answer is that it depends, because in some place you might find the education very useful and interesting, but at the same time in some other institution their system might be outdated, old-fashioned, boring, useless, etc. However, as far as I am concerned, not the PhD in marketing makes a marketer good in his field - the experience does, because marketing is mainly oriented towards people and this is not to be taught in class. I do not say that education would not help, but I would rather go directly into the real world
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  • Profile picture of the author diegoortiz
    Yes I graduated with a Masters on Internet Marketing from Full Sail University in Orlando FL, last year. I didnt really learn anything i didnt already know, but i liked the fact that i got a chance to network with other marketers.
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  • Profile picture of the author diegoortiz
    it was a fun experience
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    i guess it was really a $80,000 mastermind seminar in other words
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    • Profile picture of the author ShaneBoyd
      This is a good thread to start. I mentioned something like this a year ago and got a lot of good feeback.

      Currently I'm a 33 year old sophomore in college. My major...marketing.

      From what I've seen in the classes I've taken and the classes I need to take yet, college does not teach you how to do effective marketing. They'll teach you how to network, do research, management skills and heavy analytical info for buying and selling goods. But marketing? Nope.

      There's only 2 classes I have that are even remotely relevant to my degree...Sociology and Anthropology. The rest pretty much blow.

      The marketing degree comes in handy for tedious things like keyword research and buying cycles. Analytical stuff. However, if you want to learn some basic marketing 101 then read some of the classics from authors like Dan Kennedy, Claude Hobkins, Jay Abraham, Schwartz, Ogilvy, Halbert and so on.

      So one may ask..."Shane, if you don't really have anything good to say about the major, then why major in it?"

      Funny you should ask.

      My goal...I will be a marketing director for Walt Disney Corporation by the end of 2015. And to have said career, I'll need a Masters in marketing. Notice I said marketing DIRECTOR and NOT MANAGER. Here's a good description of a marketing director...

      Marketing director’s job entails managing the marketing strategy of a company. Most marketing directors relate themselves with market segments, large groups of consumers, defined by age ethnicity, income, are any other factors. Marketing directors need to find which market segments can buy the products of a company and how best they can sell the company products to the targeted market. Marketing directors work closely with other departments to drive the programs, displays, shows that excite the partners and customers of the company to meet their business goals.

      It may sound funny, but read that above paragraph again and see how similar it is to affiliate marketing, online marketing, direct marketing, lead generation marketing and product creation.

      Pretty darn similar yes?

      I enjoy those things. And the salary starts at $90,000 a year with benefits.

      However, in the mean time, I go to school, run my inspection company and make some coin online on the side.

      Peace,

      Shane
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  • Profile picture of the author christopher jon
    Well,

    If I did seminars or webinairs I'd be a stud thanks to my Business Communications class, or, how to stand in front of a room full of strangers and speak about something like an authority.

    No death by powerpoint here, I rock the mic. Who needs a spokesperson?
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  • Profile picture of the author Brad789
    doorkicker13

    Brad here - you bet! I earned a degree in Marketing at Florida State University in 1970. See - I am willing to risk it all to answer you.

    My family had a small business and I hoped to return and join as the Director of Marketing. Viet Nam and other issues intervened. A service career later - I am working on internet marketing as a way to "satisfy" my long desire to really do marketing.

    I still have some of my books. I have added to my library over the years. As I look over the titles - marketing is a theme - so I am going to push through this time.

    I took marketing because I really enjoy the technical aspects of statistical analysis of the markets.

    I have used several internet systems but recently came across two that I am using to update my understanding of this market - the internet.

    I found Chris Farrell's Internet Marketing. He was rated number 1 on the internet. He is fantastic at teaching the technical detail needed to "get on the system" and opens the door to marketing opportunity on the net.

    I also found Yaro Starak and Guidian Shalwig, who have a blogging program that makes a great deal of sense when you follow their explanation. Plus each example is reproducible without question. I consider that a key to creditability.

    Both programs have an important common element. They both say in unison "over deliver - quality content". I watched them closely and they deliver on what they say.

    If your are interested - please click over to my site. Take just the FREE materials ONLY. Do some analysis and study.

    If you like what you see - you may want to consider using this course to explore marketing as a career.

    Good luck - if you are interested I would like to stay in touch and hear of your progress.
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by doorkicker13 View Post

    Are any of you Warriors currently a Marketing major or have a Marketing Degree? If so, do you find it helpful?
    I've found economics and statistics far more helpful with IM than formal marketing study. Philip Kotler-style marketing training really has very little application in the small business arena.
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    • Profile picture of the author Henry White
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      I've found economics and statistics far more helpful with IM than formal marketing study. Philip Kotler-style marketing training really has very little application in the small business arena.
      I agree with you on all counts!

      Both economics and statistics get an underserved bad rep because most professors are fighting that rep instead of demonstrating how it actually works.

      So much of the business curriculum is obviously geared for middle management, and surprisingly light on small business and entrepreneurship. Too much of is the perfect education for a transition to the 20th century, not the 21st.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrmatt
    I have a degree in marketing. But I learned far more educating myself and then putting into practice what I learned. Quite honestly I don't remember jack shi# from college. Secondly is to really find out about the prof's. Do they actually have experience marketing stuff or are they all theory? Looking back many of the marketing classes were more about branding and that kind of BS.
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    • Profile picture of the author doorkicker13
      Thanks for all the useful posts everyone. I'm probably going to make the switch because I feel that if nothing else I will at least enjoy it. I chose Kinesiology because I'm a pretty active guy, but I've discovered that there are really no careers in the field that are for me. Most Kines majors end up as physical therapists and most of them end up working with workmens comp cases.. which is highly unrewarding because most of those people (statistically) have no desire to get better because it means they have to go back to work. I just don't want to come home everyday and dread going to work the next.

      Thanks again.
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by doorkicker13 View Post

        Most Kines majors end up as physical therapists and most of them end up working with workmens comp cases.. which is highly unrewarding because most of those people (statistically) have no desire to get better because it means they have to go back to work.
        When I worked at a PT office, I noticed that the people who don't want to get better... don't show up.

        And statistically, that means you end up with a very light workload of people who actually do want to get better.

        I have never met a physical therapist who didn't love what he did. You might be overreacting to statistics when reality just doesn't match up.
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        • Profile picture of the author doorkicker13
          Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

          When I worked at a PT office, I noticed that the people who don't want to get better... don't show up.

          And statistically, that means you end up with a very light workload of people who actually do want to get better.

          I have never met a physical therapist who didn't love what he did. You might be overreacting to statistics when reality just doesn't match up.
          I've shadowed three different PTs and got the same input. My dentist also used to be a PT.. and he said the same thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Henry White
    Originally Posted by doorkicker13 View Post

    Are any of you Warriors currently a Marketing major or have a Marketing Degree? If so, do you find it helpful? Did you enjoy it? I'm currently a Kinesiology major, and I'm just not happy with it. I'm considering switching my major to marketing because a) I think I will enjoy it, and b) I am hopeful that it would be helpful in my future. Any insight?
    First, I hope you're aware that you'll probably lose a LOT of credits since these disciplines are not closely related. However, don't let that unduly influence your decision! You'd stand to lose a few credits if you transferred to a different university even in the same discipline and same major.

    One way to "save" those credits is to minor in kinesiology - but, again, not being within the same school, you may have to take additional courses.

    My advice is to talk this over with a counsellor.

    The fact remains that no one really gets to "the good stuff" - regardless of their chosen field of study - until they're in graduate school, so that's another option that further complicates things for you. You could finish your degree in kinesiology, then pursue an MBA in marketing. Most of the time you will have to have certain undergraduate courses prior to admission; other times they have a special program (often called an "executive" MBA program which is primarily for mid-career, and also particularly useful for those changing their major.)

    As if that was enough, there is another option at some schools known as a
    certificate in advanced graduate studies (CAG) - which is primarily for people like me who already have a master's degree but need/want to switch from say business administration or finance to marketing; this is almost always an abbreviated program of 18-24 hours versus 36-45 for the initial MBA; but, it may include a capstone project - but if so it's usually not another stupid thesis, but more likely a full-blown business plan for a start-up or in this case a marketing plan maybe for a new product line.)

    There are way too many variables. You're going to have to talk with a counsellor at your school to explore what options are available there.

    Whichever way you choose to go, you can continue developing your online business, and have a better than even chance of earning more than your tenure professors in graduate school before you graduate! You certainly won't be struggling to make ends meet like most grad students!
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  • Yep I have a marketing major but in all honesty I haven't used it in the "real world". I work in IT and love it. I guess it has possibly helped with online marketing with understanding various concepts, but essentially the key to internet marketing is getting your site in front of people that want to see what you are selling. The same applies to offline marketing I guess, but the difference with online is actually getting your site up there for those targeted people to see.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnB23
    I majored in finance ('04). What they teach is a lot of theory.

    In finance, there's the "efficient market hypothesis". And people are "rational". And all these suppositions. It all blew up in the 08 crash, lol.

    -I think a *Far* better way to educate yourself is compile your own reading list...Claude Hopkins, Dan Kennedy, and ask logical questions. Come up with *your own* answers.

    One book I just got is Your Creative Power by Alex Osborn (from 1948). The father of brainstorming. The "O" in BBDO, the advertising agency. Yet I never heard his name in college. Its quite bizarre what they leave out.

    Sort of like going to school to learn baseball....but they leave out Charles Comiskey, Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig. I dont know why the big players aren't taught in school.

    College business courses should be teaching...motivation, problem solving, creative thinking, goal setting, etc. I don't know...I think many of the degrees are pretty hollow. If they taught everything, people wouldn't be running to the gurus to learn from.
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