Death of network neutrality?

bsmith · 12-15-2008, 08:18 AM

I always thought the network neutrality proponents were scamming the masses into supporting something that was good for the proponents and not nearly so good for the masses.

Now this comes out:

Google Wants Its Own Fast Track on the Web

Not only is Google after its own private deal for a faster part of the web, the story also states:

Quote:

Separately, Microsoft Corp. and Yahoo Inc. have withdrawn quietly from a coalition formed two years ago to protect network neutrality. Each company has forged partnerships with the phone and cable companies. In addition, prominent Internet scholars, some of whom have advised President-elect Barack Obama on technology issues, have softened their views on the subject.

Translation in two short sentences:

1. Nobody had our best interest in mind when they were screaming for "network neutrality".

2. The going rate on "prominent Internet scholars" still hasn't been divulged...but they're obviously for sale to the highest bidder, LOL!

It will be interesting to watch the reaction as this news spreads.

Kevin Beach · 12-15-2008, 08:34 AM

I'm not surprised that Google has "flip-flopped" like a politician. They were all about neutrality until they realized that it put a "ceiling" on their profits.

write-stuff · 12-15-2008, 08:39 AM

I'm with you, Kevin. It's great to be all altruisitic and create this aura of nobility around themselves like Google did. But that's really nothing more than marketing, isn't it? After all, the number one goal of a company is to make a profit (and as big of a profit as possible).

Regards. - Russ

Melkor · 12-15-2008, 09:11 AM

Err, Lawrence Lessig thinks the Wall Street Journal is making **** up about his position - he's the "prominent Internet Scholar" they're talking about.

And Googles' Richard Whitt also thinks the WSJ is making **** up - Google is doing Edge Caching like Amazon's Web Services or Akamai, and you'd have to be a WSJ journalist to make the amazing leaps of unlogic to get from "Google and Lessig are saying the same thing they've been saying all along and following up on their own ideas" to "Google and Lessing are dropping support for Net Neutrality" as this article made it out to be.

~kev~ · 12-15-2008, 09:13 AM

When discussing google, keep in mind the all mighty dollar is all the management cares about.

Take a look at the way google agreed to censor search results in china. The mangement at google bowed before the communist government of china to keep the money rolling in. Forget human rights, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, that of that is secondary to the money.

The head bosses at google could care less about net neutrality. They have shown their true side in china.

Puusaari · 12-15-2008, 10:19 AM

Google is just executing the plan they had all along. They are like drug dealers, first they get you hooked, making you think they are your friends, then out comes all the BS once you think you can't live without them.

bsmith · 12-16-2008, 10:29 AM

Google says the WSJ got it all wrong.

Google admits they're getting a faster track but says they're paying for it fair and square and that you could buy it too (they left off the end of that sentence that says "and for only few hundred million dollars", LOL!).

But whatever is going on, Google swears they're not blaspheming the gospel of net neutrality.

What I'm most curious about now is Microsoft and Yahoo. I haven't seen a word said by anybody about the claims they've withdrawn from the net neutrality coalition...

12-15-2008, 08:34 AM	#2
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bsmith Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: US Posts: 1,068 Thanks: 23 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Death of network neutrality? Google says the WSJ got it all wrong. Google admits they're getting a faster track but says they're paying for it fair and square and that you could buy it too (they left off the end of that sentence that says "and for only few hundred million dollars", LOL!). But whatever is going on, Google swears they're not blaspheming the gospel of net neutrality. What I'm most curious about now is Microsoft and Yahoo. I haven't seen a word said by anybody about the claims they've withdrawn from the net neutrality coalition...