Freelancers- What Do You Think of Freelancing Sites?

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I've gotten into a bit of freelancing to bring in some needed money to supplement my online income but have been having mixed results offline. People don't honor contracts, nitpick, take days to get back to you, cold calling and walking doesn't work (for me) to get new clients etc...

So I've been trying my hand with Freelancing sites like Freelancer and Elance and have had some mixed results. Firstly, there are a lot of people who will only pay $1 per article.

That's great if you live another country besides the US but in the western world you're better off working at McDonald's. Is it that outlandish to expect to actually be paid to write well? For English speaking natives to be paid what their words are actually worth.

Than there's the issue of bidding against other freelancers and for a lot of services it seems like a race to the bottom. A lot of employers don't go with who's the most qualified but who bid the lowest. I understand keeping costs down when outsourcing but you want to pay for quality.

What do freelancers think of these freelancing sites? Are they worth your time? I did get paid a decent amount so I think it's hit or miss.

Sorry for the half rant but I got laid off last month and I need to start bringing in money asap to restore my financial sanity.
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  • Profile picture of the author ganesh
    Definitely freelancing sites work. There are so many out there who are earning a full time income from these sites. I know that people including myself are paying anywhere between $5 and $7 per article to native English writers. Probably you fell on the wrong side.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nisip
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    freelancing... I tried both as employee and employer I went on freelancer and posted a job : I received in the next days 124 requests and bids... most people were indians who never even read the requirements...

    as employee, I struggled a lot, because until you build your first 20 positive reviews, it is EXTREMELY hard to get any contract... nobody gives winning bids to 0 feedback users :/
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      What do freelancers think of these freelancing sites? Are they worth your time? I did get paid a decent amount so I think it's hit or miss.
      It's more strategy, planning and knowing your own strengths than anything else.

      In a few months with elance I earned five figures - just from freelance writing. You can't wait to have good buyers come to you - you have to position yourself, learn to bid for the right jobs and then bid like crazy.

      No - you don't get much good work with no feedback rating. Within three weeks of joining elance I had a 5 star rating and I have that today. I don't bid on jobs there now - but I do receive frequent requests that I bid on specific projects as buyers look for top rated providers.

      I'm not special - but I know what I do well. I know what topics I can best write on and I focus on jobs in those niches. I know how to work with buyers and that keeps them coming back to me when they need more work. I'm not cheap - and I don't apologize for that.

      The clients I work with now are not through elance but came to me through recommendations from elance buyers I had worked with previously.

      Don't listen to people who say it won't work - it can work very well. But it takes a lot of work to get started, too.

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      • Profile picture of the author Nisip
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        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        It's more strategy, planning and knowing your own strengths than anything else.

        No - you don't get much good work with no feedback rating.

        it takes a lot of work to get started, too.

        kay
        Yes Kay you are very right. You have to give it a nice 8 - 10 hours per day and in few months you get some good feedback
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      • Profile picture of the author Audrey Harvey
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        I'm not special - but I know what I do well. I know what topics I can best write on and I focus on jobs in those niches.
        Great advice. If you can demonstrate why you are worth paying extra for, then you're in a better position than if you're competing with all the other general writers. Find your unique selling position, and market it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          You have to give it a nice 8 - 10 hours per day and in few months you get some good feedback
          No - you are wrong. I can't write 8-10 hours a day to begin with - nor do I want to. I began getting work at elance within 10 days of starting to bid. I had a 5 star rating within 2 weeks after that.

          To be honest, I wasn't "deciding to be a writer" - as I'd been writing for years before joining elance. Just had never done it on that scale before.

          I've never done anything worthwhile that wasn't difficult to begin with - but I don't expect things to be easy or to gain credibility fast for that matter. The first three jobs I did on elance were $10 articles - and they were for business people with a full explanation that "I'm just establishing myself here so you are getting a deal". They got great work - and I got great feedback.

          Audrey - You're right. Barry Walls taught me in the beginning that if you believe what you are worth - others will, too. He was right. (I can hear Barry saying "of course I'm right")

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    • Profile picture of the author Ehanson
      I won a bid with 0 feedback and after bidding on only 3 projects. It was from a great employer so that gave me the impression everyone would be like that on the site. The next employer said they had budgeted $100 for article rewriting but were only paying $1 per article. That's not great when you need money to pay the bills.

      Made me wonder if it was worth my time or if I should focus on expanding my online business to produce a full time income.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raindance
    I think if freelancing has a lot of potential and very likely provide a five figure income on a monthly basis. However, I've used only Elance and Freelancer and in comparison, Elance is way way better and safer as well. Elance has a verification system that seeks an ID proof from its members whereas anyone can bid for a job on freelancer (that makes it a black hat den). And these days, plagiarism is taking place in new means and ways. Some exceptional cases keep trying to crack copyscape and they actually have. The use of Roman letters in place of English to escape copyscape has been seen quite frequently in recent times.

    Having said that, I'd also add that it is indeed difficult to get those initial jobs. I've never focused a lot on it and I don't regret it much either. I don't get enough time from my own writing and stuff.

    I think what works best is to look at the profile of the client before bidding on the project. Check how many projects the client has actually executed before. There are a lot (and I mean really A LOT) of window shoppers on these sites. They just wanna know the price and bidding for them causes the loss of a credit (or more) to you. Once you are convinced that the client is serious then you should look at the average bid and measure for yourself if your bid isn't too high or too low. And the final and the most important part is the bid itself. Present yourself as confident and try to take advantage of your freshness. Mention in your message that as you're a newbie, you don't have many (even zero) projects and hence you can focus more on this particular assignment and provide an in-depth and quality result. An expert has the reviews, the rating and the credentials to back him but a newbie has to work like a salesman and win the client's heart.

    Elance also has the "skills" set. If you take tests of a few of those and score shining colors, that adds to the resume as well.

    Freelancers, many times, don't realize what they're dealing with. If they provide really good work they can be sure of the fact that a happy client can also become a marketing machine for them. He'd recommend you to others and generate unbelievable sources of revenue. I say this because I've seen a "guru" recommend a freelancer on his official blog. We know how powerful it is when a particular person or website is recommended online, it spreads like wildfire.

    And don't worry about the low bids. The guys who provide high quality content even from India, Pakistan and Philippines, they know the worth of their art. They don't bid low. Its just a minority who are either too desperate or deliver cheap quality that keep their prices very down to earth. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author kharyreynolds
    I have only used Elance and have consistently made over $1000 a month with little time commitment. You will have to invest some money and time in the beginning in order to build your reputation, but it is definitely a viable way to generate some quick income.
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    • Profile picture of the author writeandreview
      I like the escrow services of freelance sites a lot. The quality of employers is questionable. You get a lot of people looking for bargains.

      In terms of writers, if you consider yourself a professional and you bid on these lower priced jobs, you'll lose money (opportunity costs).

      Once you prove you've got the stuff, you can get negotiate a bigger payday. However, you're always going to compete with bids at the lower end.

      The good news, some employers eventually realize that they get what they pay for.

      Many professional writers I know take solace in the fact that the content they write for employer's who pay higher rates will inevitably be more beneficial in lowering bounce rates, increasing credibility and increasing customer retention.

      Of course, that's little comfort when you need cash and feel forced to trade time for pennies.

      Good luck and don't give up.
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