Submitting Articles online vs. Blog Posts

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At the risk of creating duplicate content on the web, what do some of the big-time article marketers who own blogs do with their articles?

Do they submit them on both ezines and their blog creating duplicate content or do they create different articles for the ezines; different from what you would find on their blogs.

This might only be important for Google spiders. But I'm not sure.

Thoughts?
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  • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
    I do not use my articles as blog posts on my websites.

    But I've never tried both, so I can't tell you from experience if one way is better than the other. Sorry.

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  • Profile picture of the author jayden.fellze
    Originally Posted by Dantplayer View Post

    At the risk of creating duplicate content on the web, what do some of the big-time article marketers who own blogs do with their articles?

    Do they submit them on both ezines and their blog creating duplicate content or do they create different articles for the ezines; different from what you would find on their blogs.

    This might only be important for Google spiders. But I'm not sure.

    Thoughts?
    Typically, bloggers submit the article on ezine submission websites and publish an excerpt of that article on their blog with a link to the original article.
    That way, its not creating duplicate content, but is aggregating. While duplicate content can get you penalized, aggregation is an ethical practice since the web is exploding with content and its almost impossible to generate good, original content for your viewers/followers/readers all the time...
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  • Profile picture of the author Bob B
    Personally I submit to Ezine Articles then do a quick rewrite and put it on my blog. After a couple of weeks the Ezine Articles listing will, in most cases, start to drop. When it does, I submit that original article, unchanged, to half a dozen other article sites.

    I don't believe I get "penalised" for this. They might be ignored by Google but frequently I'll get an article that has dropped from EA reappear via ideamarketers or someone else. I know I'm also getting traffic from the "secondary" article sites.

    I do a rewrite for Buzzle.com who are becoming increasingly influential (in my opinion.

    Bob
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    Originally Posted by Dantplayer View Post

    At the risk of creating duplicate content on the web, what do some of the big-time article marketers who own blogs do with their articles?

    Do they submit them on both ezines and their blog creating duplicate content or do they create different articles for the ezines; different from what you would find on their blogs.

    This might only be important for Google spiders. But I'm not sure.

    Thoughts?
    I am no "big-time article marketer" but I can tell you now that many will answer your question differently.

    This depends greatly on why you are using those articles also.. But -- If you submit semi-quality articles to the directories and then use high quality post on your blog about the same subject then you will do better.

    There are some articles that you should use only on your blog but dont get confused on the difference between a article and a quality blog post. They are not the same thing, you can have a high quality article posted on your blog with a high quality post to backup the article.

    As for google a dup content many say this does not exist.. But -- What happens when you have 1,000's of articles out there and google does create this ?? It is always best to think ahead of the game and be prepared and not listen to what others say.

    Google is forever on a constant basis tweaking and changing their system and not everybody knows exactly what google is doing behind the scenes. Google is not the only thing you need to concern yourself with either. Some directories are kicking articles out due to dup content, so if you can not submit to those directories then obviously you will never get the benefits of google even if google does not have any dup content filters.

    James
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  • I am only just starting to use article marketing in conjunction with my blog. I would certainly not want to duplicate any of my blog content but at the same time I don't want to write articles from scratch.

    So what I am doing is hiring somebody to take select blog posts (the ones that aren't time bound for instance) and re-write them into articles for submissions. I make sure that any personal information is removed so the article is suitable for a generic audience and not just for somebody who is already familiar with my blog.

    Caroline
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  • Profile picture of the author kellyryan028
    If you submit to article directories and then the same content to your blog it will pick up as duplicate content and get you the google slap which will hurt your rankings incredibly if your doing this everyday. The best way is to either spin the content to make a blog post or take out certain paragraphs and just reword them. You don't want your blog post to be article size so a couple paragraphs shouldn't take that long to do if you are doing it manually.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bob B
    I don't want to annoy anyone here but lets get our facts straight before we go scaring people who are new to the business.

    The duplicate content penalty is a myth. It was exposed as a myth on this forum and in many other places. Google themselves don't know where the suggestion came from.

    They do not directly penalize you for duplicate content, they just won't rank you as highly as those that are original.

    If everyone got slapped by Google for using duplicate content, the article directories would lose half their usefulness. Many thousands of sites copy articles - in fact are encouraged to do so by the directories. What are they doing except duplicating content?

    I'll take it further. Many news sites copy items from Reuters or other PR companies and the same article or item proliferates. Where's the duplicate content penalty?

    I'm delighted when someone takes one of my article submissions and uses it on their site - providing they give me a link of course. To suggest they would be penalized is misleading.

    Bob
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by Bob B View Post

      I don't want to annoy anyone here but lets get our facts straight before we go scaring people who are new to the business.

      The duplicate content penalty is a myth. It was exposed as a myth on this forum and in many other places. Google themselves don't know where the suggestion came from.

      They do not directly penalize you for duplicate content, they just won't rank you as highly as those that are original.

      If everyone got slapped by Google for using duplicate content, the article directories would lose half their usefulness. Many thousands of sites copy articles - in fact are encouraged to do so by the directories. What are they doing except duplicating content?

      I'll take it further. Many news sites copy items from Reuters or other PR companies and the same article or item proliferates. Where's the duplicate content penalty?

      I'm delighted when someone takes one of my article submissions and uses it on their site - providing they give me a link of course. To suggest they would be penalized is misleading.

      Bob
      Hi Bob,
      You are correct as I posted in my post .. But -- Many directories do not allow dup content and since they dont then how is your article going to get into google without the directory allowing it ??

      See many do not think about this, all they think about is google.. Many directories are getting strict and they will get even more strict before it is over with because the fact is that content determines their incomes.

      It is best to be ready before these directories start kicking out dup content. Some are right now doing it and others will follow just a matter of time. To suggest that some directories are not already doing this is misleading itself.

      This is the exact reason why I do not always submit the same exact article to each directory.

      James
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    • Profile picture of the author Carl DiNello
      As previously stated, the duplicate content penalty issue has been discussed in detail here before.

      If you combine your site/blogs content with articles you have submitted to article directories as well as a constant flow of original content that is for your site/blog only, there is no chance of any problem. Most article directories do not allow you to include an affiliate link in the body of your article. So, if you post the same article on your site/blog, just add an additional paragraph (a product suggestion or review that ties in with the article subject matter, etc.) and include the affiliate link.

      However, it you crank out site/blog after site/blog with nothing on them but automated content (RSS/News feeds, etc.) it won't take long at all before you find yourself playing in the "sandbox"!

      Also, beware of duplicating content on the site/blog itself. Many choose to use automation to add content that primarily consists of PLR material on a given subject. This automated content may in fact be adding duplicate PLR content to your site/blog without you even being aware of it. In this case, the penalty you will suffer is the loss of page listing for any duplicated page.
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  • Profile picture of the author angela99
    I post my EA articles on my own blogs. "Duplicate content" doesn't worry me; I don't care where the traffic comes from.

    Occasionally, when I'm in the mood, I might add additional information to an article I've posted both on my blog and on EA, but I usually don't bother.

    As the OP stated, a "duplicate content penalty" is a myth.

    Write away.:-) Just get lots of content.

    Cheers

    Angela
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  • Profile picture of the author kellyryan028
    I thank you guys, I have learned to be really careful when it comes to google for duplicate content. If you are looking for rankings it can make a difference.

    However, if you have the same content in an article and on a blog post you will get in hot water when it comes to social bookmarking. I guess I air on the side of caution, it is not my sites that I dealing with, its clients. I would rather take the extra time and make sure because it's another persons business and lively hood.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bob B
    Hi James

    Quite right too. As I stated in my first post in this thread, I write original for EZA, rewrite a little for my blog (adding in affiliate links perhaps that they won't allow) then I rewrite for Buzzle (who I find increasingly effective).

    People like ideamarketers, goarticle, searchwarp, amazines, and a few others then get a duplicate of the EZA article, but only once its rankings start to slip. These "secondary" directories are not currently insisting on original but I do monitor them - as everyone should - so I can react to changes when necessary.

    I frequently pick up extra traffic from Google and some from the directories themselves. I tested for six months before coming to these conclusions and adopting this method.

    In another six months time it may be different. As always monitoring and testing are vital.

    But as for rewriting for each directory. Not if I can help it. I've got better things to do with my time!

    Bob
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by Bob B View Post

      Hi James

      Quite right too. As I stated in my first post in this thread, I write original for EZA, rewrite a little for my blog (adding in affiliate links perhaps that they won't allow) then I rewrite for Buzzle (who I find increasingly effective).

      People like ideamarketers, goarticle, searchwarp, amazines, and a few others then get a duplicate of the EZA article, but only once its rankings start to slip. These "secondary" directories are not currently insisting on original but I do monitor them - as everyone should - so I can react to changes when necessary.

      I frequently pick up extra traffic from Google and some from the directories themselves. I tested for six months before coming to these conclusions and adopting this method.

      In another six months time it may be different. As always monitoring and testing are vital.

      But as for rewriting for each directory. Not if I can help it. I've got better things to do with my time!

      Bob
      Alot of us do have better things to do .. Have you seen my signature ? 50 articles all based on affiliate marketing and they are all readable and freshly written, this is not some PLR junk.

      See this is why you 1. either use a service like my site that allows composing, creation, spinning, and submitting.. or 2. you oursource..

      Why outsource when a site exist that will allow you to do this + save time doing it. People have given a bad rap to article spinners, just because jetspinner is junk does not mean they all are. The spinleverage technology that I use on my site requires a human and thus because it does the articles come out very readable...

      I also have original articles at EZA but I get more traffic from ArticleDashBoard then I do EZA and Buzzle combined.

      James
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  • Profile picture of the author BeInProfitMode
    Wow, that's so disturbing, but so true.
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