It's a "Catch 22"

If you know how to write good SEO articles and produce videos. Why not use them to promote yourself and build a list?

You can then try using a one time offer for people who sign up to your list. So you could make sales, while you are also building your list.

Failing that, you could write a great ebook and ask people with a list if they would like to give it away to their list. You could stick in some links into the book, to get people to join up to your list from there.

So why not go with what you have for now? Some sales are better than no sales. Then reinvest the funds into some targeted paid traffic?

There's the rub. You have to bring something to the table. You either have to bring the visitors or the product (or ideally, of course, both).

No offense, but I can't see any justification for a rant. If you were frustrated that you spent all your time building a product and so didn't have time to build up visitors, that would be understandable. If you were frustrated because you spent all your time building up a list and so didn't have time to build a product, that would be understandable. As it stand, however ...

:rolleyes:
LOL Oh really? You mean its instant riches as soon as someone dumps their lists? Why didn't someone tell me this earlier?!

Now you've peaked my interest. Care to elaborate?

I agree with them, it really takes time and some money to build your list and the best option for you I think is the joint venture.

Lists are obviously not your business strategy.

But let me tell you - I'm plenty rich because of them.

Just because YOU don't like it - it means dittly squat.

A lot of people don't like sales pages. But they work.

A lot of people don't like video sales pages. But they work.

A lot of people hate upsells/downsells. But they work.

Some people hate PPC, but it works.

Some people hate SEO (myself included), but hey, it works.

Some people hate facebook. But it works.

Some people hate writing articles and syndication. But it works. (just ask Huffington Post what they think of articles and syndication - what, like 300 million dollars of a site flip because of it?)

There are MANY MANY methods that work for many many different people.

Rob

How long are you going to keep trolling?

We probably also have a different definition of what a "business" is.

Oh, and by the way...

Fixed that for you.

Set up an affiliate system and allow others to promote your product for a commission.

or

Take a brief overview of your product, package it into a convenient 3-10 page report that glosses over things. Set up a squeeze page, or a page with the prominent offer, and start driving traffic to it.

or

As a PLR writer, I would set up the sales page and have things ready. I would set things up with some sort of affiliate system (since I have E-Junkie I would just roll with it to start as to not complicate things further.) I would then create the traffic source (10 or so articles), I would create a simple report (like I mentioned above), I would create simple squeeze page text, and then I would create a nice and simple 3-7 email autoresponder. To take things a little further I would dig up some killer keywords to promote the thing.

From there I would make a WSO on this very forum with the whole package above and sell it on the cheap. I would normally charge $16-$30 for the package if I were to sell it on the store. Considering my purpose would be to create a small affiliate army, I would let this whole thing go for about $5. I wouldn't care about breaking even with this product (but you should) as much as getting the content out there.

Hell, sell the package for a buck.

On the sales page, and a few times in a separate pdf file included in the package, mention that you have the perfect product for them to promote with this pretty new PLR package and that you created the whole thing with your product in mind.

Some people may take your PLR and find something else... others will take your PLR and sell a ton for you.

In either case, you now have a list of buyers looking for content and things to promote that you just gave a sick deal to. If your product doesn't do well... sell it to this new list with PLR or Resale Rights and move on.

Being unable to sell a product because you do not have a list, or cannot afford PPC or media buys, sounds like an excuse to back down to me. Get creative and find a way to make it work.

What's the other side? Twitter spam?

Tried that already. Not much interest generated. Don't understand why as I was offering a percentage of the sales...

I think you should have read through the messages before posting.

@Joanne

It seems to me with your apparent writing and keyword SEO skills, you should be able to build a list rather quickly.

I have found writing articles and submitting them to targeted outlets to actually be the fastest free method to build large lists and sell products in even the most highly competitive niches.

You can submit articles to not just the top article directories, but especially also submit them to ezine publishers, blogs, and high authority websites in your niche.

The power of article marketing is vastly underused. Using the leverage of articles in thousands of targeted outlets, you are not only building high PR backlinks, but also immediate sales as your site rises in ranking for organic traffic.

All of this can actually happen quite fast.

Well that is what we can only hope for Joanne.

Consider learning to publish your own content at a 5000 word a week clip. Do it on a blog, and stick with one blog.

You will start to see amazing results, and you can sell anything you want, make money with Adsense, AND sell product - your own product, or someone else's products.

Traffic = Profit

You can do it. Become a fierce writer and you will succeed.