How ethical is using sex in your business?

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Some companies don't care what they are promoting but they get a model to display her cleavage to sell it. GoDaddy is the finest example of such marketing but they also provide quality so it doesn't matter what marketing they apply. However, we all come across many products and services in our daily lives where a product is completely irrelevant to its marketing.

I started this thread because a few minutes ago, I opened the website of a new host. It had very cheap plans for its customers and the site is brand new. 0 PR and hardly any backlinks although its age was 9. The plans are attractive enough for someone low on budget or a newbie without much knowledge of the hosting world. Yet, there I see a girl wearing a halter top trying to make you stay on the page.

Thanks to Fiverr and other freelancing sites, we can easily get such photos and testimonials to work for us but would you really use it in your business? Fake testimonials are abound in IM and hype rules marketing. If your product is not quality then isn't it direct targeting of the customer's wallet rather than his trust? Most of us entered IM so that we could lead the life we wanted without having to spend a chunk of our lives on the office desks under a pessimistic boss. If such means to grab attention are used and ultimately nothing but some money and a dissatisfied customer is gained then does that not push you back towards that office life because sooner or later a business built on such foundations ought to collapse.

I've studied Marketing in college and I know that success of an organization heavily relies on its relationships and that is what we were taught almost in every class in different ways. A business sustains and goes long term only when you gain trust. An unhappy customer isn't just the closing of a revenue stream but also a red flag for many prospects. Word-of-mouth is the best form of marketing because of the weight it carries. You can spend millions on your advertising campaigns but if the target customer hears something negative about you from someone he trusts, all that money goes in vain.

Instead of gaining attention of people with a help of a bikini model, why don't we save that money of hiring and let our happy clients do the promotion for us. It takes time and patience but it is all worth it. The former can get you loads of visitors whereas the latter carries a high number of the targetted traffic. What would you prefer? 16,000 random visitors or 2000 targeted?

Maybe this thread completely deviated from its root but I just wanted to remind everyone here that winning customers is more important than winning money. And that is so not just for the sake of ethics but also for the sales as a happy customer is a repeat customer as well.

Regards
Ali
#business #ethical
  • Profile picture of the author Rich Blondi
    GoDaddy's CEO Bob Parsons obviously didn't go to marketing school like you did to learn all that fantastic information and is really screwing up. I hope he reads this thread and learns a thing or two about how it should be done from an educated marketer before that little business of his flops. He should go to college.
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    • Profile picture of the author efwebm
      Originally Posted by Rich Blondi View Post

      GoDaddy's CEO Bob Parsons obviously didn't go to marketing school like you did to learn all that fantastic information and is really screwing up. I hope he reads this thread and learns a thing or two about how it should be done from an educated marketer before that little business of his flops. He should go to college.

      I assume this is sarcasm?

      I'd rather get advice from the guy with the multi-million dollar company than a grad student with bright ideas and no application.
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  • Profile picture of the author Headfirst
    Why wouldnyounuse a low pr, no-backlimk host? Get decent host like mediatemple or liquidweb. Hosting is the worst thing to cheap out on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trivum
    It's called conditioning, and it's a very basic psychological principle that's been used in marketing for ages. Study upon study has shown that "cells that fire together, wire together." In other words, when you see the girl in the halter top, your brain goes WOW! GREAT! (well, yours might not ... but many people's will). Your brain also notices that you're on Website X at the same time. So now your brain associates the WOW! GREAT! with Website X because those two things happened at the same time or near the same time in your brain.

    In other news, related of course, pop music sells better than classical music. Some people who buy classical music would never buy pop music, and there's a market for classical music, but pop music outsells classical music by a mile.

    When looking to purchase a $400/mo server plan, however, I doubt those companies will use a girl in a halter top. If they use any type of model, it's probably some geeky looking smart guy. They want your brain to go, "This guy looks like he knows what he's doing." ... Same principle. Not really any "better." ... It's still playing on the way your brain is wired.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike McAleer
    It sure works on me. I am a teenager and my hormones are raging(haha) but this is something that does work. I know it myself!
    Sex sells and it is as simple as that. Why do you think that porn is such a big industry?
    Porn is like drugs for some people.
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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    Well OP you had good intentions I believe, but the reality of marketing and business, is different than your beliefs.

    I don't think it is a matter of ethics. How ethical is it to outsource? How ethical is it to outsource at insanely low prices? How ethical is it to fight chargebacks when they are issued? How ethical is it to live in such a debt driven country?

    Obviously any business model that consists of trying to get sales off a bull **** product is going to fail. Quality counts... but you can have the highest quality product in the world, and it will be meaningless without proper marketing behind it.

    Sex sells, sex gets attention... the title of this thread having sex in it, is going to make this a 2-3 page thread. Bob Parsons is great at what he does, and always has been, before godaddy even.
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    And that is so not just for the sake of ethics but also for the sales as a happy customer is a repeat customer as well.
    I heard that prostitutes (aka sex workers) also like the repeat customers...
    (not for the sake of ethics but for the sales!)
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    • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
      Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath View Post

      I heard that prostitutes (aka sex workers) also like the repeat customers...

      Naw, Istvan, that's just a rumor. (A very old one!)





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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
    Originally Posted by Raindance View Post

    Instead of gaining attention of people with a help of a bikini model, why don't we save that money of hiring and let our happy clients do the promotion for us.
    Who says you can't do both?
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Agency
    Its just there way to attract and catch the attention of the customers.
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  • Profile picture of the author ladywriter
    Marketing using sex, to me, is the laziest way to go and that's why I'm so irritated by it.

    And people who are swayed by sex marketing irritate me even more than the companies that use it.

    Is it ethical? Ethics are subjective.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by rosegrower76 View Post

      Marketing using sex, to me, is the laziest way to go
      Yeah, major corporations are lazy. Saying it is the laziest way to go, is like saying coming to the warriorforum to learn is lazy instead of figuring it out themselves. :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author doorkicker13
      Originally Posted by rosegrower76 View Post

      Marketing using sex, to me, is the laziest way to go and that's why I'm so irritated by it.

      And people who are swayed by sex marketing irritate me even more than the companies that use it.

      Is it ethical? Ethics are subjective.
      It's not lazy, it's smart. It sells.

      If I see a commercial for Carls Jr. with Kim Kardashian eating a burger, and a commercial for McDonalds with dude eating a burger - I'm going to remember Carls Jr.. it's as simple as that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
    its quite unethical.....

    using sex as a marketing tactic would be one of my last option along with casino.
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    Obviously, it worked for him! lol
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  • Profile picture of the author igl0w
    sex is everywhere so hard not to use it
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  • Profile picture of the author ladywriter
    Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

    Yeah, major corporations are lazy.

    Originally Posted by doorkicker13 View Post

    It's not lazy, it's smart. It sells.
    Both of you seem to confuse effective with intelligent (and industrious?), lol. Obviously using sex works or they wouldn't do it.

    It's rather like saying it's "smart" to turn on a light. I know if I flip a switch a light will come on and doing so doesn't require dedicated work or high brainpower on my part.

    I mean, does it? If you wanna call me a hardworking mastermind for knowing how to turn my lamp on, I'll take it!
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    • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
      ? are you saying all we need to do is add a graphic or some sex related text and we all make money ?

      and that's it, nothing else ? no smarts beyond that and any well trained monkey can turn this money flowing switch on.

      can it really be that simple?

      Originally Posted by rosegrower76 View Post

      Both of you seem to confuse effective with intelligent (and industrious?), lol. Obviously using sex works or they wouldn't do it.

      It's rather like saying it's "smart" to turn on a light. I know if I flip a switch a light will come on and doing so doesn't require dedicated work or high brainpower on my part.

      I mean, does it? If you wanna call me a hardworking mastermind for knowing how to turn my lamp on, I'll take it!
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      • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
        Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

        ? are you saying all we need to do is add a graphic or some sex related text and we all make money ?
        Yes.

        and that's it, nothing else ?
        Correct.

        no smarts beyond that and any well trained monkey can turn this money flowing switch on.
        Absolutely.

        can it really be that simple?
        It really is.

        That is the secret everybody's been searching for.

        You know "the secrets" that "the gurus" always talk about? This is it.

        That movie, The Secret, it was really all about babes in bikinis selling stuff.


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      • Profile picture of the author ladywriter
        Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

        ? are you saying all we need to do is add a graphic or some sex related text and we all make money ?

        and that's it, nothing else ? no smarts beyond that and any well trained monkey can turn this money flowing switch on.

        can it really be that simple?
        LOL, I said no such thing. I simply said it was the laziest way to go because I believe it is.

        Now, if you don't have a lightbulb or the lamp is broken/not plugged in, certainly just flipping the switch isn't going to do a thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Roaddog
    I don't know what bikini clad women have to do with drinking a Pepsi...

    but right now, I sure want a Pepsi...
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
    There is a HUGE difference between getting a potential customer's attention and building a relationship with them that brings in repeat business.

    Someone mentioned Carl's Jr. advertisements, which generally feature extremely beautiful women. Yes, that gets my attention! But there is one little problem.

    I've been to Carl's Jr. before and they absolutely suck.

    I personally don't find their food that great so can you guess how many times a year I make it into a Carl's Jr.? You guessed it. ZERO.

    What's my point?

    Sure the good looking women might get us INTERESTED in what you are trying to sell, but if you don't deliver on that interest we are going to walk away each and every time.
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    • Originally Posted by BloggingPro View Post

      Sure the good looking women might get us INTERESTED in what you are trying to sell, but if you don't deliver on that interest we are going to walk away each and every time.
      That's all they are supposed to do is get you interested enough to watch or listen. Obviously, it's up to the merchant to have a quality product that brings repeat business.
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      • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
        Originally Posted by Brad armPitt View Post

        That's all they are supposed to do is get you interested enough to watch or listen. Obviously, it's up to the merchant to have a quality product that brings repeat business.
        Exactly my point. The hot girls provide a benefit to get your attention, but if you as a consumer are not interested in what is being sold you'll quickly move on.

        For example, in the OP's case the good looking girl on the site is meant solely to get your attention and probably is placed right next to TEXT touting the main selling point of their services.

        But if your not interested in switching hosts (or getting one to begin with) you'll simply oogle over the girl and then hit the infamous back button!
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
    I don't see anything unethical about using sex appeal in business promotion, unless it is inappropriately and intentionally directed at a target group that it should not be (like small children, etc).
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  • Profile picture of the author mjarel
    This thing just attracts the visitor thats all, its not like if your showing excessive features of models so you would get a business,I agreed,it would divert the traffic at your site thats all.Personally I'm really not convinced with this unethical strategies.
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  • Profile picture of the author corsleymaxwell
    From the word "using sex" is obviously unethical. Well, that is their way also. We can do nothing about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author fanimal
    I rather look at nice pair of boobs than at bunch of metal junk (hosting servers). And boobs do not really have such a clear connection to sex anymore these days. Sometimes when having sex I do not even see them
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