by herb44
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This old school technique is supposed to be really effecient for marketing cpa type products-any feedback warriors. Last i checked; it cost about five hundred bucks to run a good postcard marketing campaign maybe you guys know a cheaper way:confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author SimonJBell
    Tried this a few years back and saw zero return. I wouldn't recommend it personally.
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    • Profile picture of the author premiumplr
      IMO postcard marketing only works with your established postal mailing list. Sending them out cold ( unless it's a really cool postcard) is a lose-lose. You may be better off with old fashioned flyers.
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by spruzz View Post

      Tried this a few years back and saw zero return. I wouldn't recommend it personally.
      There is a guy over here in australia that does it.....and does well but yes, it is not for everyone.
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  • Profile picture of the author mbarty2010
    Originally Posted by herb44 View Post

    This old school technique is supposed to be really effecient for marketing cpa type products-any feedback warriors. Last i checked; it cost about five hundred bucks to run a good postcard marketing campaign maybe you guys know a cheaper way:confused:
    People hardly user postcards now a days. Now a days postcards are not value adds. Last I knew people were trying new approaches like sd-cards and pen drive marketing with affiliate content pre-loaded in them.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by mbarty2010 View Post

      People hardly use postcards now a days....
      Are you kidding? LOL!
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      • Profile picture of the author dbarnum
        My company has been using postcard marketing for a long time, for our promotions and those of clients. It's still a good way to market, so not sure where you are getting your negative info.

        For some tips, feel free to check out some blog posts we have on this:

        Moving Ahead Blog: Category Archive for Postcard Marketing
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  • Profile picture of the author ReachOneMedia
    Originally Posted by herb44 View Post

    This old school technique is supposed to be really effecient for marketing cpa type products-any feedback warriors. Last i checked; it cost about five hundred bucks to run a good postcard marketing campaign maybe you guys know a cheaper way:confused:
    Got yourself some flyers and post them yourself!

    or go to fiverr.com and ask for someone to post 50 flyers for $5

    Works awesome with cpa!

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  • Profile picture of the author lowkey786
    I was going to try this form of advertising but it's pretty darn expensive, like it cost $1000 to send out 2000 postcards when you buy from a company. But it all depends on the niche and if it's targeted to what your offering.
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    • Profile picture of the author Shane Hale
      Use SRDS and Nextmark to get a hot list. Then run the post card offer to the list. You need to find a market relevant to what you are selling. Also, test copy. I would start with a 800 # and not direct to a website but a recording. This is where postcard copy can make you or break you.

      It is still relevant and people are making money. It takes money sometimes to find the right market and list. Cold mailing postcards are only good when you are advertising local marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Will Chisholm
    Sending out post cards can be expensive. You don't have to send out thousands a week. Start off at maybe a few hundred a week whatever your budget may be. There are other forms of marketing out there. Just be consistent at what ever it is you do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Doran Peck
    Originally Posted by herb44 View Post

    This old school technique is supposed to be really effecient for marketing cpa type products-any feedback warriors. Last i checked; it cost about five hundred bucks to run a good postcard marketing campaign maybe you guys know a cheaper way:confused:
    I am the cheaper way.

    As for the rest of the posts above this one...I'll let you in on a little secret...it wasn't the "postcards" that got you zero return.

    It was your execution.

    Getting someone motivated to online to your CPA offer is no different than what tens of thousands of companies are doing with mailers on a daily basis.

    Motivating someone to go online to their offer...buy their fragrance...buy their swimsuits, register for more coupons.

    Postcards give you credibility. Especially when most of your competitors are websites put up by 18 year old kids trying to look like a million dollar corporation.

    A postcard is the differentiating factor, and the first clue to them that you are likely a real company...and obviously making money because people are continuing to buy from you.

    Your trust level has just been elevated.


    Someone suggested you do flyers. ...how is a flyer any different than a postcard? Either way you are using a piece of print to promote something online.

    Want to know why there are a blugillion printing companies all over the place now? ...because print works.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
    Anyone who thinks direct mail marketing with post cards
    is no longer effective simply has no expertise with direct
    mail marketing.

    Do not take advice about something from people who have
    never had success with it... PERIOD.

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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Benjamin
      Originally Posted by herb44 View Post

      This old school technique is supposed to be really effecient for marketing cpa type products-any feedback warriors. Last i checked; it cost about five hundred bucks to run a good postcard marketing campaign maybe you guys know a cheaper way:confused:
      Yep. It sure is more expensive then MOST advertising methods
      you see online...IF you don't know what you're doing.

      The risk IS higher. But, would you give a damn when you make
      back 2x-3x your investment on the front and back-end?

      I doubt it. unfortunately, most people can't see the forest from
      the trees.

      Ask yourself this Herb:

      10 to 20 years from now, will you really CARE about spending a
      few hundred bucks on a legitimate opportunity that makes multi
      -millionaires out of people?

      When you're 80 years old, you won't REMEMBER spending ANY
      money - but you WILL remember the regret you'll feel not DOING
      it.

      Hell, there were things I did a year ago that cost money that in
      hindsight would have been spent on a bunch of STUFF anyway.

      You live once. You HAVE the opportunity to DO it. So do it. Who
      cares what anyone else thinks. Who cares what "I" think.

      A lot of the comments you'll get will gear towards "no, don't do it
      because it didn't work for ME!"...who cares what they think. Look
      into Gary Halberts newsletters. Doberman Dan. Luke Jaten. These
      guys KNOW what' they're talking about and can help steer you in
      the RIGHT direction.

      And if you're SERIOUSLY worried about spending $500 for a camp-
      aign of 1000 postcards (which is accurate, btw) - then maybe you
      need to stick to something more "safe" like article marketing or videos.





      Originally Posted by spruzz View Post

      Tried this a few years back and saw zero return. I wouldn't recommend it personally.
      Too bad. I'm willing to bet $100 you didn't do it more than 3x
      (at BEST once) before you quit.

      A shame. Because I know people personally who magically got
      it to work for them. I wonder why THEY saw a return and you
      did not.

      Is it possible you sought advice from the wrong people and ran
      with it? Or that you tried to figure it all out on your own?

      Originally Posted by premiumplr View Post

      IMO postcard marketing only works with your established postal mailing list. Sending them out cold ( unless it's a really cool postcard) is a lose-lose. You may be better off with old fashioned flyers.
      The mailing list IS key. But, it's not the only element that puts
      it all together. (I wish!). Part of the FUN and journey of it all is
      that it's not a "one-solution-fits-all" business.

      Also, I tried sending a postcard to random people in the yellow
      pages 2 years ago. It was "eye-opening" to say the least.

      I remember getting 2 or 3 calls...I didn't know any better.

      Funny now that I think about it.

      Originally Posted by lowkey786 View Post

      I was going to try this form of advertising but it's pretty darn expensive, like it cost $1000 to send out 2000 postcards when you buy from a company. But it all depends on the niche and if it's targeted to what your offering.
      Again. Who "CARES"!?

      I promise you. You will NOT remember investing $1000
      to try something that you're not used to. It's LIFE. It's
      what YOU and I are HERE FOR.

      Playing it safe in business get's you "nowhere".

      I'm not saying you should recklessly spend thousands
      of dollars throwing crap at a wall hoping it sticks...but
      if you dig deeper you'll find the information you need
      to take the next step forward.

      It's "progress{". Regardless if you FAIL or SUCCEED on
      your first try.

      All you'll have as you get older is the MEMORY and joy
      of doing what you feared most...finding out there was
      nothing at all to fear - because MONEY is a tool.

      USE it.

      Hoarding it and saying things like "but it's expensive" is
      an escape goat. Because ANYTHING worth pursuing will
      cost money and/or time.

      Direct Mail is definitely one of those businesses WORTH
      getting good at IF it's something you want to do.

      ...and I would assume it is to you since you took time
      to come and express you're feeling about it. So.

      Go for it.


      Originally Posted by Shane Hale View Post

      Use SRDS and Nextmark to get a hot list. Then run the post card offer to the list. You need to find a market relevant to what you are selling. Also, test copy. I would start with a 800 # and not direct to a website but a recording. This is where postcard copy can make you or break you.

      It is still relevant and people are making money. It takes money sometimes to find the right market and list. Cold mailing postcards are only good when you are advertising local marketing.
      Good advice. Where the hell were you when I first started
      8 months ago?


      Originally Posted by Tsnyder View Post

      Anyone who thinks direct mail marketing with post cards
      is no longer effective simply has no expertise with direct
      mail marketing.

      Do not take advice about something from people who have
      never had success with it... PERIOD.

      Tsnyder
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        @herb44

        It is very common for successful CPA affiliates to use this "old school" technique of postcard marketing. Buy autoresponder leads that also contain the prospects' mailing address. Then, instead of emailing, the response rate is far greater by mailing postcards with the offer. It works with virtually any online affiliate program.
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        • Profile picture of the author paulie888
          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          @herb44

          It is very common for successful CPA affiliates to use this "old school" technique of postcard marketing. Buy autoresponder leads that also contain the prospects' mailing address. Then, instead of emailing, the response rate is far greater by mailing postcards with the offer. It works with virtually any online affiliate program.
          True, I think that the free/low-cost trial offers that pay $30 and up would be a particularly good fit for postcard marketing.

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  • Profile picture of the author Richnana
    Thanks for the information. You are so right follow success
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    Originally Posted by herb44 View Post

    This old school technique is supposed to be really effecient for marketing cpa type products-any feedback warriors. Last i checked; it cost about five hundred bucks to run a good postcard marketing campaign maybe you guys know a cheaper way:confused:
    Not really. In order to reach out to a decent list of prospects, you'd want to mail out to at least 1,000 of them, and the cost of the postcards, printing and postage is pretty much going to set you back around $500 (it could be a little lower if you mail out more and/or do all the work yourself).
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Benjamin
      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

      Not really. In order to reach out to a decent list of prospects, you'd want to mail out to at least 1,000 of them, and the cost of the postcards, printing and postage is pretty much going to set you back around $500 (it could be a little lower if you mail out more and/or do all the work yourself).

      "In order to reach out to a decent list of prospects, you'd want to
      mail out to at least 1,000 of them"

      Actually, you can get just as accurate results on a 500 postcard
      mailing as 1000. Anything LESS than 500, however, is NOT a good
      idea.

      You can test more. A "little" cheaper ($250-$270 per mailing). And
      results are just as accurate as a 1000 postcard campaign.

      "it could be a little lower if you mail out more and/or do all the work
      yourself"

      I did it myself for a few months until I learned that this was NOT
      true.

      You actually spend not only more MONEY, but more TIME doing it
      yourself than hiring a solid print and mail shop to do it for you.

      Some people are paranoid about outside parties doing the printing
      and mailing, but I've never had any personal bad experience with
      one...

      A print and mailing house is CHEAPER than doing it yourself all the
      way around.

      I do recommend doing at least one mailing yourself to get a feel
      for how the process is done. It's not neccessary, but it's good to
      know you know what to expect from a print and mailing shop.
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  • Profile picture of the author NateC
    If you have a target audience or a relevant list to mail to then it can be effective. You can't just throw it out there to everyone regardless and think that it will stick.

    If you did PPC and did not target a specific audience you would lose your ass in minutes... how is throwing a niche specific post card out to everyone any different? Be smart, target...
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    • Profile picture of the author netcowboy
      There are two things that make or break a postcard campaign.

      1. A well targeted list to send to.

      2. The words on the postcard.

      Get those 2 things right and you'll have a full time income. Like everything else, your first few campaigns are learning experiences. But you get better and that's when you ramp up the volume.
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneyerr
    If you're a small business owner, you already know postcards - the quintessential mini billboards of marketing - are a quick and cost-effective way to reach customers with your message. If you're part of the Greatest Generation, you recall that they used to cost a penny, your vacationing neighbors sent them to show you what a great time they were having, and they said, "Wish you were here."
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