Article marketing? SpinChimp v TheBestSpinner ? Deindexed from Google on own site?

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Hey there
A couple of questions about article marketing after the Google Panda update?
1. Does article marketing still have relevancy? Where does Ezine Articles fit in all this? I noticed a solid bounce back of their traffic levels in the last few weeks. Are they still an important site for this strategy?
2. With programs like Spin Chimp or The Best Spinner, which gives best performance on spun articles? I mean best response with traffic and eventual click through for sales.
3. If I just post 50-100 intelligently unique spun daily articles on my own site without submitting to any external articles directories like EzineArticles, am I still in danger of getting the site de-indexed by Google for potential duplicate content (even though it is not posted anywhere else other than my own site)? Could Google de-index even as it might look at my site as potential inferior quality site as a web content farm? What about even potential spam? As said, I am not going to post any duplicate articles anywhere else other than my own site.
Let me know. Thanks for the help as well.
P.S. Please don't highjack this thread other answering the 3 questions above. Start your own thread. Thanks again.
#article #deindexed #google #marketing #site #spinchimp #thebestspinner
  • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
    Certainly not trying to hijack your thread.

    But you have asked enough serious questions to merit at
    least half a dozen threads. Not only that, but many people
    who can help you do not typically get drawn into these
    polarizing discussions for several good reasons.

    I strongly recommend you use the search function and look
    for threads with relevant keywords in the titles.

    Just a suggestion, but seriously, your questions have been
    answered many times over. It's a flogged horse

    Good luck.


    Ken
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  • Profile picture of the author cashforlifetv
    Understood. Thanks for the tips.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashforlifetv
    It seems to be a common theme but others are porting success stories. It gets confusing. I am more specifically looking for answers on question #3. I could not find anything on it.
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    • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
      Originally Posted by cashforlifetv View Post

      It seems to be a common theme but others are porting success stories. It gets confusing. I am more specifically looking for answers on question #3. I could not find anything on it.
      And you won't, more than likely.

      But to answer your question for #3...

      3. If I just post 50-100 intelligently unique spun daily articles on my own site without submitting to any external articles directories like EzineArticles, am I still in danger of getting the site de-indexed by Google for potential duplicate content (even though it is not posted anywhere else other than my own site)? Could Google de-index even as it might look at my site as potential inferior quality site as a web content farm? What about even potential spam? As said, I am not going to post any duplicate articles anywhere else other than my own site
      Based on my knowledge, which is above average if I may say...

      Hopefully you will not take a handful of articles and make 50-100 spun copies
      to put on your site. Not a good idea.

      You will be testing the capabilities of "them" if you do.

      I will tell you this, there are sites ranking extremely high, some at #1, with
      well spun content. These sites improved in rankings after Farmer/Panda
      update. They do not put 100 different versions on one site. But there are
      lots of other derivative forms on other sites.

      Spinning is a personal decision. But if you're going to do it, then do it properly,
      and don't do it half-assed if you want results.

      Think for your self, and what you do is your business.


      Ken

      PS - Do check out my sig, too...

      Extensively covered indeed, but the temptation is too much for some.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          I do ... regularly.
          I have no doubt. No sleep for the ever-vigilant...


          Ken
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  • Profile picture of the author cashforlifetv
    Hey Alexa
    Very helpful. Thanks so much!
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  • Profile picture of the author MrDay
    "50-100 articles daily", Seriously?

    Never publish spun articles on your own site. Unless you want a really low quality site that does poorly in search engines.

    You should write your own unique quality content for your sites, or hire a freelancer.

    The most effective way to use the-best-spinner is to create a link wheel and submit those articles to several different places.

    NOW, have those spun article links pointing to your outer layer of your link wheel.

    ....and your outer layers links will be pointing back to your original site.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      So, we don't want to publish spun articles on our own sites (I'm assuming because most of them are garbage...), yet, it's perfectly fine to publish them elsewhere?

      Originally Posted by MrDay View Post

      "50-100 articles daily", Seriously?

      Never publish spun articles on your own site. Unless you want a really low quality site that does poorly in search engines.

      You should write your own unique quality content for your sites, or hire a freelancer.

      The most effective way to use the-best-spinner is to create a link wheel and submit those articles to several different places.

      NOW, have those spun article links pointing to your outer layer of your link wheel.

      ....and your outer layers links will be pointing back to your original site.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashforlifetv
    Thanks MrDay. Question through:
    From what I research about ChimpSpin, if the articles are genuinely and uniquely spun for my own site, would it not boost Googlebot activity which results in higher SEO for my targeted keywords? How would it decrease the site quality if this was the case if each article is unique from ChimpSpin?
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  • Profile picture of the author incliner
    This whole discussion is a bit over my head as far as how Google looks at things but I have done very well with article marketing the old fashioned way...good, original content.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashforlifetv
    That is why I am hoping to hear from some experts on this exact topic. I am confused on why the sellers of ChimpSpin are convinced each article is so unique to Google, posting multiple spun versions should not get me in trouble with Google on my own site. It should only add value for my SEO on that domain for the target keywords? Am I wrong on this ? There seem to be conflicting opinions or at least I am feeling that.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by cashforlifetv View Post

      I am confused on why the sellers of ChimpSpin are convinced each article is so unique to Google, posting multiple spun versions should not get me in trouble with Google on my own site.
      Yes; I'd also be confused by that.

      Then again, it's wise to take representations about "uniqueness" and its implications/significance with a hefty dose of salt, when looking at sales representations. Many businesses promoting spinning software would have their potential customers believe even that "duplicate content" and "syndicated content" are tantamount to the same thing (which is both categorically wrong and horrendously misleading)!
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    • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
      Originally Posted by cashforlifetv View Post

      That is why I am hoping to hear from some experts on this exact topic. I am confused on why the sellers of ChimpSpin are convinced each article is so unique to Google, posting multiple spun versions should not get me in trouble with Google on my own site. It should only add value for my SEO on that domain for the target keywords? Am I wrong on this ? There seem to be conflicting opinions or at least I am feeling that.


      You are hoping to hear from experts?

      This is not the way to get it done. I've done a little work "for you"
      and can present you with someone who you really can listen to if
      you are interested in this.

      Read post #117, I think, and others by Kurt, here...

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ot-spin-3.html

      Probably best "not to resurrect" that thread by posting in it.

      Find other posts by Kurt, and you will get your answers. There is
      no one single yes or no answer because... as I stated earlier, it all
      depends on what you do, how you do it and other considerations.

      Ok?

      Go read what Kurt has to say. Do your own research and let this
      go away.

      Boring ideological chatter...


      Ken
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  • Profile picture of the author NicoleBeckett
    Originally Posted by cashforlifetv View Post

    Hey there
    A couple of questions about article marketing after the Google Panda update?
    1. Does article marketing still have relevancy?
    Absolutely.

    Anytime you can write *quality* articles that contain valuable research, information, and solid facts that answer questions and solve problems for your target audience, you will be relevant. If you're not doing that, you will not be relevant.

    Originally Posted by cashforlifetv View Post

    Where does Ezine Articles fit in all this? I noticed a solid bounce back of their traffic levels in the last few weeks. Are they still an important site for this strategy? .
    EZA can be a good source to showcase your expertise and get your content syndicated. However, they are, by no means, the only place to do this. There are plenty of quality article directories around the web. Plus, there are plenty of guest blogging opportunties out there that can help you get syndicated and establish yourself as an expert.

    Originally Posted by cashforlifetv View Post

    2. With programs like Spin Chimp or The Best Spinner, which gives best performance on spun articles? I mean best response with traffic and eventual click through for sales.
    I don't spin anything. To me, it completely contradicts the goal of providing quality answers and solutions. There are people who argue otherwise, but I have yet to see a spun article that I would be willing to put my name on

    Originally Posted by cashforlifetv View Post

    3. If I just post 50-100 intelligently unique spun daily articles on my own site without submitting to any external articles directories like EzineArticles, am I still in danger of getting the site de-indexed by Google for potential duplicate content (even though it is not posted anywhere else other than my own site)? Could Google de-index even as it might look at my site as potential inferior quality site as a web content farm? What about even potential spam? As said, I am not going to post any duplicate articles anywhere else other than my own site.
    Duplicate content exists only on different pages of your own site. If your articles are not considered "unique" enough, then, yes, you could have a duplicate content issue.

    Do you really need 50 or 100 new articles every day? That seems like alot. Plus, it seems nearly impossible to keep up on a daily basis (which is something that Google appears to take seriously - how *consistent* you are with your posting). If it were me, I would spend my time writing quality stuff, even if it only meant adding a few new articles at a time. That way, you'll get points for updating your site *and* having quality content to boot.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashforlifetv
    I have seen all the answers I need. Thanks to all for making this forum very valuable.
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  • Profile picture of the author nakmuay7
    i really dont understand why anyone would spin an article. it ruins it. i personally will not read the second i can see it is a spun article.

    but even the people that do it ruins any credibility the article may of had already
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Forster
    I use The Best Spinner to spin some plr articles I have. I like it.
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