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Old 12-19-2008, 04:55 PM   #1
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Default WSO Rules - can anyone please clarify?

I've be creating a new product over the last 6 months with a view to doing a pre-launch as a heavily discounted WSO and then launching afterwards at full price.

I've been following the new procedures for WSOs and that is all fine, no problem. But before posting I decided to read the rules again. I may be wrong, or older than I thought I was , but a couple of things are different to how I remember from the last time I read them. Maybe someone can reassure me that I'm not going crazy.

I thought you had to have made 20 posts before posting a WSO and now it says 30. When did that change? or am I imagining things?

I remember a report, maybe a year or two ago about how to do a successful WSO and it recommended getting people to post on your WSO so it stays at the top. Then afterwards I was sure the rules were changed to stop people doing that. Now I read the rules and there is no mention of asking people to post in order to get bonuses etc.

What is the current situation please regarding "encouraging" (i.e. bribing) people to post on your WSO?
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Old 12-19-2008, 04:57 PM   #2
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I've be creating a new product over the last 6 months with a view to doing a pre-launch as a heavily discounted WSO and then launching afterwards at full price.

I've been following the new procedures for WSOs and that is all fine, no problem. But before posting I decided to read the rules again. I may be wrong, or older than I thought I was , but a couple of things are different to how I remember from the last time I read them. Maybe someone can reassure me that I'm not going crazy.

I thought you had to have made 20 posts before posting a WSO and now it says 30. When did that change? or am I imagining things?

I remember a report, maybe a year or two ago about how to do a successful WSO and it recommended getting people to post on your WSO so it stays at the top. Then afterwards I was sure the rules were changed to stop people doing that. Now I read the rules and there is no mention of asking people to post in order to get bonuses etc.

What is the current situation please regarding "encouraging" (i.e. bribing) people to post on your WSO?

If it changed to 30, then make a few more posts obviously.

On the "Encouragement" factor - the current situation is your WSO will be deleted.
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Old 12-19-2008, 05:05 PM   #3
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Default Re: WSO Rules - can anyone please clarify?

Wow, that was quick. Thanks.

Ok, I'm just a couple of posts short of quota but I'm sure I can find somewhere to make a useful contribution.

There's no mention in the rules thread any more about the "encouragement" factor (as far as I could see), so if it would be easy for someone to innocently follow bad advice written in an old report and get their WSO deleted. Maybe the rules thread could be updated to avoid possible disputes? Just a thought.

Anyway, thanks for the clarification.
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Wow, that was quick. Thanks.

Ok, I'm just a couple of posts short of quota but I'm sure I can find somewhere to make a useful contribution.

There's no mention in the rules thread any more about the "encouragement" factor (as far as I could see), so if it would be easy for someone to innocently follow bad advice written in an old report and get their WSO deleted. Maybe the rules thread could be updated to avoid possible disputes? Just a thought.

Anyway, thanks for the clarification.

That's the underlying reason for wanting new members to participate more - if all the "Rules" were written down, it would look like the US Tax Code, LOL. By regularly participating, contributing and asking questions, everyone figures it out sooner or later.
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I remember a report, maybe a year or two ago about how to do a successful WSO and it recommended getting people to post on your WSO so it stays at the top. Then afterwards I was sure the rules were changed to stop people doing that. Now I read the rules and there is no mention of asking people to post in order to get bonuses etc.

What is the current situation please regarding "encouraging" (i.e. bribing) people to post on your WSO?
Also, your thread no longer gets bumped to the top when a reply is posted. When people reply, it simply adds a reply to the thread. But the thread's position doesn't move.

The only time your WSO move up is after it falls off page 3 and you PAY to rerun it.

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Also, your thread no longer gets bumped to the top when a reply is posted. When people reply, it simply adds a reply to the thread. But the thread's position doesn't move.

The only time your WSO move up is after it falls off page 3 and you PAY to rerun it.
If that is true, why ban post encouragement? Doesn't a WSO even get a boost when it "catches fire"?
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If that is true, why ban post encouragement?
Because Allen wants people to have OBJECTIVE information to consider when making their buying decisions. Compensation underminds objectivity in it's purest form. The fact that you used the word "bribing" in your original post leads me to believe that you already understand this.

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Old 12-19-2008, 05:56 PM   #8
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Because Allen wants people to have OBJECTIVE information to consider when making their buying decisions. Compensation underminds objectivity in it's purest form. The fact that you used the word "bribing" in your original post leads me to believe that you already understand this.
When I said bribing I wasn't actually referring to monetary compensation, more the "if you are interested, post here and I'll PM you the download link", which is something I can relate to, as once a link gets posted (and cached by the search engines) you lose control of how many times your stuff is downloaded. Obviously the objective was to keep your WSO at the top and it must have worked otherwise it would not have been stopped.

Actually, I didn't think it was anything to do with undermining objectivity, I thought it was just to save people sifting through pages of "send me the link", "my payment reference is", "thank you, I sent you a PM", "where is my download link?", etc. worthless posts that add no value to the WSO.

Regardless of the reasoning behind it, as you have stated, it is no longer an issue as it would serve no purpose anyway.

Thanks for your input on this, question answered comprehensively.
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