Why do good writers market for others instead of themselves?

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If I were a good writer I don't think I would waste my time writing for others.

1. You have to market yourself to get hired
2. Once you get a writing gig you have to research and write
3. You have to deal with crap from the people who hired you (such as rewrites, etc....)

That seems like too much work........

If you are a great and creative writer, I would assume that you would be able to market a product and gain passive income.

Internet marketing has made it where it is easy for anyone to become an affiliate. Once you have a product to sell, write about it as much as you can.

Then, sit back and let the sales come in.

Am I wrong?
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  • I think there are two reasons:

    1. A lot of people don't think like an entrepeneur, or have no wish to ever be an entrepeneur. They just want a job which pays money.

    2. Some people want money now, without the risk that comes with writing for your own sites and products and not ever knowing if you'll be paid with it.

    Writing work as a freelancer, after all, can be very well paid if you treat it like a profession, whether it's for web content, or the mainstream media.

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  • Profile picture of the author jacktackett
    Also folks just because you're a great writer doesn't mean you're a great marketer. Also most formal English/Journalism classes - at least in the US - are geared toward creating either struggling creative writers or employees. They do not teach marketing. The only folks that might get it from schooling are communications or marketing folks. Only in the last few years has Entrepreneurship become a common training track in US universities. Just my $0.02 anyway....

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  • Profile picture of the author Wonderful Warrior
    My question was actually directed to the people here on an Internet Marketing Forum.. My guess is that most of the writers here are marketers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Linda_C
      Originally Posted by Wonderful Warrior View Post

      My question was actually directed to the people here on an Internet Marketing Forum.. My guess is that most of the writers here are marketers.
      You'd be surprised at how many people on an "internet marketing" forum AREN'T marketers. (But want to be)

      Having a skill (whether it's writing or cooking) doesn't mean you know how to run a business. It's actually a good sized leap from "he who does the work" to "he who runs the business"

      Also? Writing isn't marketing. Writing is part of marketing in the same way that your arm is part of your body. There's a lot more to marketing than writing.
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      • Profile picture of the author celente
        Originally Posted by Linda_C View Post

        You'd be surprised at how many people on an "internet marketing" forum AREN'T marketers. (But want to be)

        Unfortunately we all gotta start somewhere i guess.
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        • Profile picture of the author BiancaRaven
          I've been a full-time freelance writer for more than 6 years. I love the instant pay - and let's face it, I have a mortgage to pay and a daughter to feed.

          However, that doesn't mean I don't also have a string of very successful IM sites of my own filled with highly researched, keyword relevant content attached to affiliate links.

          I learned that writing for others is ideal for making valuable contacts in this industry and bringing cash flow into my business right now, or forming the bread and butter of my business. Yet the string of websites I maintain are just perfect for providing the cream and sugar on the top of my business income on a very regular basis
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  • Profile picture of the author pdrs
    As a successful writer and manager of my own writing company I certainly maintain my own successful sites which I write all of the content for myself.

    So why then would I write and provide writing service for others?

    #1 - It's good, fast money! Which can then be reinvested into other aspects of my business.
    #2 - The contacts gained are invaluable
    #3 - It's another means of diversifying my business
    #4 - Allows me to keep developing my skills and get feed back on my work
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    • Profile picture of the author Wonderful Warrior
      Originally Posted by pdrs View Post

      As a successful writer and manager of my own writing company I certainly maintain my own successful sites which I write all of the content for myself.

      So why then would I write and provide writing service for others?

      #1 - It's good, fast money! Which can then be reinvested into other aspects of my business.
      #2 - The contacts gained are invaluable
      #3 - It's another means of diversifying my business
      #4 - Allows me to keep developing my skills and get feed back on my work
      Thank you for that answer. That makes sense.
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    • Profile picture of the author writeandreview
      If you say that internet marketing is a guaranteed gold mine for anyone who can write well, then you're right. Anyone who can write well would be a fool not to get into internet marketing.

      If you say that internet marketing may make you money or may take your money, then servicing the internet marketing community isn't a bad way to go.

      Same with a lot of professions. Why write software for someone else's startup when you can start your own?

      Why cook food for someone else's restaurant when you can start your own?

      I also disagree with anyone who says freelancers do not have the entrepreneurial spirit.
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      • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
        Originally Posted by writeandreview View Post

        Why cook food for someone else's restaurant when you can start your own?
        Yeah... that kind of thinking caused a lot of bankrupt restaurants run by cooks/chefs

        Many years before even thinking of IM and related fields I've been working with a company that provided managerial services/training for small business owners.
        You have no idea how many stressed out ex-cook restaurant owners I've met across the US and Canada.

        They were all excellent cooks. And they all were miserable businessmen.
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    • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
      Originally Posted by pdrs View Post

      As a successful writer and manager of my own writing company I certainly maintain my own successful sites which I write all of the content for myself.

      So why then would I write and provide writing service for others?

      #1 - It's good, fast money! Which can then be reinvested into other aspects of my business.
      #2 - The contacts gained are invaluable
      #3 - It's another means of diversifying my business
      #4 - Allows me to keep developing my skills and get feed back on my work

      Exactly
      ...

      I devote approximately 90% of my efforts to creating, maintaining and promoting my own IM websites, but I also write limited content for a select handful of clients--not for 'peanuts', but for very significant fees. As an example, on Friday, I completed two articles (I'd been working on them on and off for two days), and early next week I will receive $120 and $185 for them respectively.

      Writing these articles provides me with opportunities to diversify, research new subjects and, in return for just a few half hours of effort over a couple of days, earn some nice 'fun money'.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Content King
      Originally Posted by pdrs View Post

      As a successful writer and manager of my own writing company I certainly maintain my own successful sites which I write all of the content for myself.

      So why then would I write and provide writing service for others?

      #1 - It's good, fast money! Which can then be reinvested into other aspects of my business.
      #2 - The contacts gained are invaluable
      #3 - It's another means of diversifying my business
      #4 - Allows me to keep developing my skills and get feed back on my work
      Agreed. this describes what I would have said nearly exactly. I have learned so much from researching and completing various projects, met so many smart and interesting people, and I also get a first-hand glimpse into the ultra-hot niches. It's kind of like being an IM spy.
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  • I also think that a lot of writers are on this site as they know it's a good source of writing work. Posting on here is part and parcel of the job of getting known and finding clients.

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  • Profile picture of the author Joey Babbs
    I have to say Article marketing is not easy and if you do not know how to properly link and build campaign you WILL FAIL! Most people would rather just take the guaranteed money....

    For any article marketer out there....truly ask yourself....how long did it take till actually learned how to make money with articles? It wasn't easy!
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    • Profile picture of the author Wonderful Warrior
      Originally Posted by freddyfortunes View Post

      I have to say Article marketing is not easy and if you do not know how to properly link and build campaign you WILL FAIL! Most people would rather just take the guaranteed money....

      For any article marketer out there....truly ask yourself....how long did it take till actually learned how to make money with articles? It wasn't easy!
      Article marketing is only part of it.......

      Good writers can get someone to sign up for their email list... And then write emails that can convert sales.

      Knowing how to write persuasively is an art form which I admire.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    I think a lot of writers (like myself) do both. We write to raise capital for our own ventures.

    Plus, many of us actually like to write.

    By writing for other people I've gained a wealth of trivial knowledge which will come in handy when I'm on Cash Cab.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marketing Cheetah
    I have a team of good writers and I use them for my clients and for my own needs. I agree with pdrs. That is another good business plus you get good and honest feedback from your clients regarding your writing.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Simpleton
    I started writing for others and slowly realised that they were paying me pennies and getting fistfuls of dollars for themselves Maybe I was too slow to realise that. I think a lot of the writers who write for hourly rates know that they're being underpaid. But they do not market themselves and prefer writing for others because it's just the easy way out. Then again, not everyone is like that, and some writers do market themselves. It's just that these are few in number and the majority of writers prefer seeing instant results by selling their articles.
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    • Profile picture of the author ShayB
      Because good writers make good money writing for others. Plus some people enjoy writing for clients. There is a certain amount of fun, challenge and reward in it. (Not just money - the process of taking an idea in a client's head, developing it, and then hearing back "This is great! I love this!" is a very rewarding process, and most writers thrive on that kind of feedback and challenge.)

      However, many writers realize that they can make more money if they work for themselves, and they transition to that business model over time.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        If you look at writing only from an "IM perspective" I can see how you'd come to your conclusions.

        I'm a writer but I don't write for make money or IM-type sites. I've written for manufacturers, authority sites, large retail sites, professional sites and only in areas that hold some interest for me. I like research and I like writing. However, I would not want to write full time as about 4-6 hours a day a few days a week is enough.

        The money is good, the work can be demanding but I enjoy it - and I've never had to do a rewrite (though I have had to correct my own goofus on occasion). I also have my own sites, a 1-2 day a week part time job that pays too much to quit, and another source of income - and all are independent of each other which was my goal.

        I know many here who fund their hosting and domains, etc with money from writing - and there are quite a few like me who write as part of their business.

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        • Profile picture of the author DaveHughes
          I haven't written for others in a while, IM-wise. However, a recent change in our family financial situation meant we had to get some extra money in the ol' bank account within the next two weeks, or hear fun questions like "Daddy, why aren't the lights working?"

          As a result, I'm currently writing for others again, because as was mentioned earlier, it's a great source of fast cash.

          IF you can write well.

          To be honest, the one thing I haven't done is transition to non-IM writing like Kay is doing...to be honest, that's where the real money is in writing. I just haven't cracked that particular nut yet...possibly because I've never taken the time to try to get my foot in the door for that type of writing.

          Recently, my line of thinking has been that it's finally time to get off my keister and start transitioning away from my day job...a job I still have because I love what I do.

          The siren song of freelancing is strong, however...and becoming louder with every passing day.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    For a skilled writer it is well worth writing for others. It is constant and fast money. Not to mention I love both writing and researching which makes it amazing for me.

    Also, I am trying to get into marketing but it is slower to get started with. My hope is to eventually have money coming in from internet marketing but also write for people for extra money.
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  • Profile picture of the author christopher jon
    Internet marketing has made it where it is easy for anyone to become an affiliate. Once you have a product to sell, write about it as much as you can.
    Because it's not that easy.

    Just because somebody can write a 500 word article doesn't mean they can create a website, generate traffic, convert said traffic or run a business.

    Content is only a piece of the puzzle. Great content is nice but it's useless if nobody sees it.
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  • Profile picture of the author trytolearnmore
    You won't believe how much good writers make. Also, maybe some people just live writing. Marketing is a troublesome process, but creating a masterpiece can be so inspiring.
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    • Profile picture of the author jimmymc
      The people that make the most money with IM are great writers or great snake-oil salesman that have the money to hire great writers.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        Alexa - but you are still advertising writing in your sig?

        In the end it comes down to your personal goals. If someone else is paying for your housing/utilities/food - you can afford to dream big and look for the IM method with the least amount of work.

        If you are responsible for paying everything - you do what is necessary to maintain a profitable business every month. Your dream may be to automate or increase profits - but those profits have to be there if you want to survive.

        The focus of working online - no matter what type of work or marketing you do - is net profit.

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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          Alexa - but you are still advertising writing in your sig?
          No, I'm really not, Kay. I've taken down all my writing site apart from a home page containing only an announcement that my writing services are not available to any new clients. I haven't taken on a new client for well over a year, now. I simply make recommendations, when asked.
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        • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
          I didn't see anyone touch on this, although I admit to skimming the last few replies.

          Writing for marketers is like on-the-job training if you pay attention. I feel as though my several of my clients paid for my education. Now, it won't work that way for everyone because there are those who don't ask questions or don't pay attention to what they're being asked to do.

          I did. I noticed what clients were ordering repeatedly and I paid attention to what they told me. I asked questions - not intrusive questions but questions that revealed how they were using the material. I filed this information away in my head and patterns emerged that showed what was working and what wasn't working for my clients.

          As a writer, there is nothing wrong with Googling your work to see where it's being used and how. You'll see how the content is being used and what type of sites are working, if you pay attention.

          I'm not talking about anything unethical such as going into the same niches or any of that nonsense, either. But you can learn a lot from working for/with successful marketers, just by keeping your eyes open and paying attention.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Wonderful Warrior View Post

    If I were a good writer I don't think I would waste my time writing for others.
    Well, that was my conclusion ... I realised I could earn far more by being my own client, so I made the transition to being an affiliate marketer, and after a very rough start (and earning very little for the first 4 months) it paid off for me, and I'm extremely glad I did so, and wouldn't switch back.

    However, Istvan's point is (as ever) also entirely valid and correct: part of the reason why the average lifespan of new restaurants is measured in months, rather than in years, is that so many chefs decide they'd rather cook for their own business than earn a salary cooking for someone else's, but most of them don't have the business-running mindset which would enable them to make a success of it.

    Writing for yourself entails knowing how to set up, run successfully and build the sort of business that uses that writing service. It's an entirely different and additional skill-set.

    When you're writing for others, it doesn't matter that some of the clients don't have those skills either (which they don't), because you can replace them with other clients.
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  • Profile picture of the author jokarl
    Im glad it is this way. Some people are really good at writing and thats all they want to do. They can sell their articles and make money doing what they love. Maybe they dont enjoy the marketing or all the technical stuff. If all people wanter to be entrepeneurs it would be bad for all of us. I mean who would we outsource to?
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  • Profile picture of the author Wonderful Warrior
    Thank you all for your responses... I learned a lot from your answers.....

    1. Make contacts
    2. Get feedback on your skills
    3. quick money
    4. Love to write (personally I can't understand that one ) Writing always feels like homework
    5. no desire to be a marketer

    I guess when you ask writers a question you will get a very detailed answer.

    Also... the reason I asked was because I would like to know if it is worth taking classes to improve my writing skills. But it seems that you really have to have a passion to write - which I do not!

    Once again.. thank you all who answered.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lilach
    I must admit, I've often thought that too...

    But it goes back to the old saying "we can't be good at everything"

    You have to remember that copywriters are providing a service and are in the service industry. Some people are more than happy providing services whilst others love creating products, some are great at marketing etc.

    I've done both, provided services and internet marketing and I can tell you that if you're good at what you do providing services is the much easier option.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      It may not always be a particular mindset or propensity for writing over marketing. For example, most of my writers are college students or part-timers who for their own goals need a steady income. It does not necessarily imply they could not be successful marketers, but at this time it is just not a primary focus.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Benjamin
    Originally Posted by Wonderful Warrior View Post

    If I were a good writer I don't think I would waste my time writing for others.

    1. You have to market yourself to get hired
    2. Once you get a writing gig you have to research and write
    3. You have to deal with crap from the people who hired you (such as rewrites, etc....)

    That seems like too much work........

    If you are a great and creative writer, I would assume that you would be able to market a product and gain passive income.

    Internet marketing has made it where it is easy for anyone to become an affiliate. Once you have a product to sell, write about it as much as you can.

    Then, sit back and let the sales come in.

    Am I wrong?
    As an "off-and-on writer" myself, here' are the FACTS and
    my own experience in a nutshell:

    1. Contrary to the HORROR stories, you will NOT be bullied
    and pushed around freelancing if you don't LET them.

    I've dealt with ONE client who bossed me around because
    it was my first time doing it at the time over a year ago.

    The KEY is to look at it not as "working for someone else",
    but as a partnership working towards the same goal.

    Act like an employee, and you'll be TREATED as such. The
    entrepreneurs who hire you will not RESPECT you, and you
    become another one of THEIR employees.

    When entrepreneurs hire writers, they LOVE working with
    other like minded people. They're looking for MORE than a
    writer, they want to do business with future partners.

    Which leads to my next experience:

    2. Incredibly STRONG contacts : If an entrepreneur wants
    to do future business with you, it's seriously mind-boggling
    how profitable it can be. But there's a catch...

    they have to RESPECT you as a entrepreneur first BEFORE
    they mention a partnership BEYOND the writing itself.

    And...

    you have to offer something much MORE than "can I write
    for you PLEASE?!" mindset. If you make money marketing
    your own stuff, you'll get access to so many opportunities
    and deals -- it's almost frightening how much fun and how
    EASY it is to make money.

    3. Dealing With The Hassle Of Researching And Writing...

    is what MADE me a lot of money in the first place. And...

    It depends on the person.

    Will they do their research, write, and MISS an opportunity
    to DO what it is they're are writing about?

    For example, the ONLY way I learned of starting a direct
    mail order business came FROM being paid to write articles
    about it.

    As I'm DOING this research I was exposed to a different
    environment instantly and because I have to do a TON a
    research to do a project right...it was an open invitation
    to "do it myself".

    Writing for others leads to opportunities you would have
    NEVER seen for yourself simply because you didn't know it
    "existed" prior to getting the topic or niche to research on.

    4. Knowing How To WRITE and Knowing How To SELL And
    Market Are NOT The Same...

    in fact, they're not even closely "related".

    It's not as simple as "if you know how to write, you can be
    an affiliate". If it WERE that simple, there'd be no writers to
    write for others. Because...

    it's very, VERY challenging. Almost unbearable for MOST to
    handle. And it's sad...

    because it's WORTH going through the process to be good
    at sales and marketing because you can command HIGHER
    prices for ALL your writing projects...

    and again, you gain the respect of other entrepreneurs who
    will spill the beans about EVERYTHING they do that'll make
    you serious bank and will even help you do it.

    But the KEY to get that kind of relationship with a client is
    to simply "do for yourself, what you do for others".

    As writer, you WILL go through a very painful transition to
    learn the process of sales and marketing, and it pays off in
    ways that are difficult to explain.

    Fact is...

    it's RARE to find a WRITER who doubles as a good or GREAT
    sales/marketer. And people hire people who get results for
    THEMSELVES faster then the guy who's doing it "just for the
    money"...

    because when you convey, "I do it MYSELF!" -- you're not
    needing of THEIR busienss...it impliess YOU can use your skill
    of writing to make money as a MARKETER -- and therefore
    you're experience is 50x valuble to them than the guy who
    needs to put food on his table.

    They don't "care". if you work hard and learn how to market
    you are an ASSET. You have something MORE to offer almost
    NO writers have -- and the opportunities are abundent.


    To wrap this up...

    even if you AREN'T a good writer, learning sales/marketing &
    applying it to get results for YOURSELF is not only empowering
    for YOU, but it's EXTREMELY attractive to others.

    In the end, it all depends on the person:

    How far do they WANT to go?

    How much RISK are they willing to take?

    Do they ASPIRE to do MORE than just writing for others?

    If you are willing to take on those challenges, you will enjoy
    the benefits of "doing your own thing" and "working with other
    people on THEIR thing".
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarah Russell
    I started off as a freelance article writer, and eventually - like others here have mentioned - got clued in to the fact that people had to be making more with my articles than I was selling them for in order for the whole equation to work out.

    So now I do both. I do a lot more affiliate marketing than freelance writing these days, but I do continue to take on the occasional writing project. Writing puts money into my bank account a lot faster than waiting for a new affiliate site to start converting (and then waiting for payouts from the affiliate providers). It also exposes me to new niches and keeps me up to date on what's new in IM.

    Plus, it's fun There's something about putting together just the right combination of words that I really enjoy, so I don't think it's something I'll ever give up completely.
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    • Profile picture of the author bnwebm
      I am in a similar situation which I also consider a luxury of having worked solely as a writer for years. I'm able to be more selective in terms of accepting writing work. I also think my writing reflects the fact that I didn't haphazardly choose to write for someone on a topic i'm either unfamiliar with, or just plain don't enjoy. Writing those types of topics however, have given me a wealth of flexibility and education that has helped me expand my own work into the internet marketing and design fields.

      Originally Posted by Sarah Russell View Post

      I started off as a freelance article writer, and eventually - like others here have mentioned - got clued in to the fact that people had to be making more with my articles than I was selling them for in order for the whole equation to work out.

      So now I do both. I do a lot more affiliate marketing than freelance writing these days, but I do continue to take on the occasional writing project. Writing puts money into my bank account a lot faster than waiting for a new affiliate site to start converting (and then waiting for payouts from the affiliate providers). It also exposes me to new niches and keeps me up to date on what's new in IM.

      Plus, it's fun There's something about putting together just the right combination of words that I really enjoy, so I don't think it's something I'll ever give up completely.
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  • Profile picture of the author Derek Soto
    sticking with your strengths can often times make you happier.

    If you love to write and are a writer, that is what you should do. Let others do the marketing for you.

    If you are a marketer, let others do the writing for you.

    basically, do what you love and are good at and outsource the rest.

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    • Profile picture of the author joymarino
      Originally Posted by ricocrownmedia View Post

      sticking with your strengths can often times make you happier.

      If you love to write and are a writer, that is what you should do. Let others do the marketing for you.

      If you are a marketer, let others do the writing for you.

      basically, do what you love and are good at and outsource the rest.

      Derek
      Awesome response... that truly is the best... loving what you do and outsourcing what you do not like or are not good at!
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  • Profile picture of the author joymarino
    Originally Posted by Wonderful Warrior View Post

    If I were a good writer I don't think I would waste my time writing for others.

    1. You have to market yourself to get hired
    2. Once you get a writing gig you have to research and write
    3. You have to deal with crap from the people who hired you (such as rewrites, etc....)

    That seems like too much work........

    If you are a great and creative writer, I would assume that you would be able to market a product and gain passive income.

    Internet marketing has made it where it is easy for anyone to become an affiliate. Once you have a product to sell, write about it as much as you can.

    Then, sit back and let the sales come in.

    Am I wrong?
    Perhaps, those that have the entrepreneurial mindset DO both.... that would be a great thing. Write for yourself, make money. Contract out your services and wrote for others...MORE money.

    Perhaps they feel that new ideas, new content helps them to write things they normally would never write about. Doing the research for someone else's content would broaden their scope of knowledge and open their mind to new things.

    Perhaps, it is like others have said and they don't know how to be an entrepreneur. If they are given tasks, they can do them on a time frame the other person sets. If they are left to just do their own thing, they may slack-off and get nothing done.

    Just some thoughts that came to my mind, if I were a great writer, why I would write for others.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
    Great question.

    I do not know If I can classify myself as a good writer, but I write and have written over 1000 articles in the last few months for clients. I often wonder what would have happened had I written all those articles for my own sites. I have not progressed that far yet and still get most of my income from service orientated business models.
    Why? well it is the safety aspect mostly, money now with no risk.

    The reality is that most people will at some stage move onto their own writing, and it will leave an opportunity for more writers to come through and learn and then move on. I have learned an awesome amount writing, and still do so I see it as getting paid to learn, and in the real world a few years learning is expected before taking on a profession so I am comfortable writing for others and learning.
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  • Profile picture of the author Caper224
    Thats a great question, but it all boils down to initiative.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jacob Hargreave
    Originally Posted by Wonderful Warrior View Post

    If I were a good writer I don't think I would waste my time writing for others.

    1. You have to market yourself to get hired
    2. Once you get a writing gig you have to research and write
    3. You have to deal with crap from the people who hired you (such as rewrites, etc....)

    That seems like too much work........

    If you are a great and creative writer, I would assume that you would be able to market a product and gain passive income.

    Internet marketing has made it where it is easy for anyone to become an affiliate. Once you have a product to sell, write about it as much as you can.

    Then, sit back and let the sales come in.

    Am I wrong?

    Here is my insight on what I would consider the reason why some writers prefer writing for others. If these reasons are not the original motive of the writer then it should be.

    First and foremost it's ALWAYS in demand. It's virtually an endless stream of income that will never become "slow" or dry up.

    A professional writer can bank thousands per week and still have 5 days out of the week to themselves.

    For the entrepreneurial writer who works for others has an advantage when he or she develops a product or service based on the writing niche.

    #1 They have an immediate list of clients that have already purchased in the past. This is gold.

    #2 Instant credibility. Clients already know your name, quality of work, and will not have their guard up when looking at the sales pitch.

    #3 Almost Zero marketing costs. Your reputation, quality of work, etc will speak for itself. Think of the fanciest restaurant you know of (Not McDonalds, Arby's, or any other second tier establishment). I am talking about establishments so fancy you probably couldn't fathom saying the name of the place without stuttering.

    Have you ever seen an ad or television commercial for this restaurant? Probably not why? Because their quality food, service, etc speaks for itself, and almost every customer they receive is a referral from another client.

    Writers work the same way. If your clients love your work, then word of mouth will be your biggest asset.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    When we are starting out, it is easier and faster to be paid for writing for others than to build a new business.

    Later when we have enough experience to understand the value of what we do, we gain the confidence we need to go on our own. That is usually the point in which we tend to stop writing for others and begin to only write for ourselves.

    The answer to your question is more a matter of where the writer is in the growth curve... Newer writers write for others... Experienced writers work for themselves.

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    • Profile picture of the author Kierkegaard
      The brief answers to the original questions are:

      1. You have to market yourself to get hired

      This is next to no effort. I paid for one post in the for hire section and never had to market my services again. And I have a long waiting list.

      2. Once you get a writing gig you have to research and write

      You have to do this anyway, whether you write for yourself or others. At first you have to write about topics which: (a) you know nothing about and (b) range from quite to incredibly boring. The upside is that you learn a lot about new niches and ways of approaching these niches. (People discuss the dangers of revealing their niches, sites, etc. when you hire a writer you give away a lot).

      3. You have to deal with crap from the people who hired you (such as rewrites, etc....)

      It depends on how much crap you're willing to take. I'll only rewrite if I make a big mistake. But I'll admit it's more comfortable writing for yourself. There is the motivation of having a deadline and the possibility of performing better when writing for someone else. Besides, whatever you do in life you always seem to being dealing with crap from someone!

      Another way of looking at writing articles for others...

      When I write an article for someone else, it is usually around 1000 words for which I get paid around $40. Once the article is written, I no longer have anything to do with it. That's the end of it for me.

      The guy who buys it needs to do the following:
      • Post it on his website/blog
      • Make any alterations, add links etc.
      • Post it to article directories/doc sharing etc.
      • Maintain the website/blog
      • Promote the website/blog
      Before ordering an article he needs to:
      • Find his niche
      • Research his niche
      • Choose a product/service to promote
      • Devise a strategy
      • Build his website
      He must pay for:
      • Hosting
      • Autoresponder
      • Any scripts/templates/design work
      • Any other outsourced work
      • My article!
      His worries include:
      • Websites going down/being hacked
      • Choosing the wrong product/niche/strategy
      • Being ripped off by the company he's affiliated with
      • His search engine position
      • Waiting for payment
      If you're someone who finds any of the above work unpleasant then writing for other people is a way of having someone do all the work for you. Writing articles for others is a very easy way of earning $100+ a day with a couple of hours work. This is great for people who are not looking to IM for a career but a way of financing another project - such as a student.

      (A lot of writers for hire, I suspect, probably write for others and themselves. I do. This post is intended to give the reasons why sometimes it's preferable to write for others.)
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Cole
    I think it's more like good writers work for others and themselves, they're just not promoting their personal articles as proof of their writing ability, or their real name.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Katsoudas
    Someone can be a great writer and a terrible marketer.

    Another can be a terrible writer but great marketer.

    Being good in both definitely helps.
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