by endre
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Hello
I have a question re links.
I just got a request from another site owner to do a link exchange. This is good news to me, as it indicates that people are starting to notice my site. However...

The request came from a site called "HornyMatches.com". The name sounds bad, but I had a look at it and it looks quite clean and not pornographic. In fact it is a very successful dating site. Nevertheless it has no relation whatever to the subject matter of my site, other than we both deal with sexual subjects (my site is not pornographic either). Other than that we have nothing in common.

I know the value of links, and I'm wondering if this would be an advisable link exchange.

Any suggestions appreciated

Andrew
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  • Profile picture of the author Joanne Greco
    Horny Matches?
    Are they related to Perverted Lighters?

    If you're going to exchange links...make it a three way.
    (which shouldn't be to hard for a sex site) lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Killian
    I hate to burst a bubble, but that places asks for links from any one and every one, even many places that are not related, content wise. Either they have a bot running around (my guess), or they have some people putting in some serious surfing time, or paying for out sourced link building. They have been doing it for some time.
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  • Profile picture of the author endre
    Thanks
    That said, is it better to be, ahem, "promiscuous" and exchange links with any one and everyone - or should one choose their links carefully?
    Andrew
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRealDomainer
    endre,

    You hit it on the head. Choose links carefully, know this is a business, its your site and integroty, consider future rather than just getting a link becasue you are asked to for exchange.
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  • Profile picture of the author ejfern22
    The best type of links to get are one way backlinks. If google sees that your site exchanges with another site they might lower your search engine rankings. So I would just aim for one way backlinks by creating articles, commenting on blogs, social networking, and many other ways of getting good quality backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author wardo
    I would not have a negative effect on your site if you did decide to exchange links but depending on the quality of the site, it may not be worth your time either.
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    • Profile picture of the author sylviad
      You say you both deal with sexual subjects but don't say what.

      If you are not in the same area of business, you can do well with complementary link exchanges. Those are the ones where you sell something that enhances what they're offering and vice versa.

      So if that is a dating site and you are selling sexy products, that would be complementary. But if you're selling products or services that help married couples, then it would not be complementary.

      When Google sees relevant site links, they consider those to add value, rather than devalue your site. And sexy and dating are related but different.

      Hope that makes sense.

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  • Profile picture of the author sequincer
    I just visited the site,and I cant say It's totally clean.
    Try recontemplating.
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  • Profile picture of the author richdirtygirl
    Originally Posted by endre View Post

    Hello
    I have a question re links.
    I just got a request from another site owner to do a link exchange. This is good news to me, as it indicates that people are starting to notice my site. However...

    The request came from a site called "HornyMatches.com". The name sounds bad, but I had a look at it and it looks quite clean and not pornographic. In fact it is a very successful dating site. Nevertheless it has no relation whatever to the subject matter of my site, other than we both deal with sexual subjects (my site is not pornographic either). Other than that we have nothing in common.

    I know the value of links, and I'm wondering if this would be an advisable link exchange.

    Any suggestions appreciated

    Andrew
    Hi hun!

    -the site is pr5, good for incoming linking. Ask where they are going to put your link, check the pr of that page, and how many clicks anyone needs to get to that page.

    -Try to make it 3 way, so it gives you one way links (someone else already said this).

    - you don't want to exchange links with people in the same niche. You want to exchange links with someone in a different niche with the same clientele.

    RDG :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Khalil Bashir
    This would be a link swap that is not worth your time if it does not match the content of your site. If you are looking to build a downline then you want to attract network marketers. I don't know if this is your intent but if it is then it would be useless to put your link on a dating site as it would not gain you any subscribers or signups because your site does not help your visitors with dating information.
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  • Profile picture of the author ggross
    If it compliments your site, & has an Affiliate Program, then it may be worth it. If you don't mind me asking, what type of site do run run ? I have a relationship & dating tips site & might be interested in a link trade.
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  • Profile picture of the author endre
    Wow, I'm overwhelmed with the response. I belong to a couple of other forums, similar to this, but I'm lucky if I get two or three replies.

    I'm sorting through the info and a few things stand out. One is, Are the sites complementary. I would say they are not. People who are looking for dates, are not looking for information on exhibitionism.

    So there seems little to be gained on that front. And as bgmacaw says, sites that you link to can hurt you. I'm wondering why that might be.

    Also Sequincer says the other site (the dating site) may not be clean. I'm wondering why. Does that mean it is pornographic (I don't think so), or does "clean" have some special internet meaning?

    A couple of you have mentioned to do a three-way link. Can someone please explain what this is? Why does it give you a "one way link"? And, perhaps more importantly, will this be of any benefit if the sites are not complementary? Google apparently looks for relevancy. Is the fact that both sites deal with sexual topics enough to make them related (even if they are not so in reality)?

    Just a quick word to ggross who asked what sort of site I run (with a view to a possible link exchange). Mine is an information site about exhibitionism. Exhibitionism is the #1 sex crime in the West but little is known about it, and little has been written about it (there is, for example, no book on the subject). As an informational site, I think it is not really relevant to dating. I might be wrong. I'm new at all this.

    endre
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    • Profile picture of the author sylviad
      Hi endre

      Thank you for filling in more details so we can better assist you.

      Off the bat, I'd say... No... your site would not be a good link exchange with a dating site. Clearly, your topic is, if anything, the exact opposite of that site.

      Before I explain a good link for you, here's a bit about 3-way linking.

      3-way is when you can provide a link back to the other person's site from a second web site of yours. You put their link on your first site. This eliminates the direct link exchange. When you do a direct link-back, the link loses its value as far as Google goes. You want one-way back links to your site for maximum benefit.

      So if you can't link back to them from a separate site, get them to link to you from a separate site and you link to their first site.

      Now about relevancy.

      Again, it depends what angle you are approaching your topic, but a couple of good exchanges would be with crime-related sites, mental health sites (as this behavior is related to some mental health issue), and women's sites where they discuss safety for women. Look for sites that offer resources in these areas: crime, personal safety, information on mental health issues, community information - where they offer advice on community concerns. Crime buster sites.

      Parent sites where they can get advice on keeping their children safe.
      (A side note on this topic: when I was 12, a man pulled up to me in a car seeking directions. When I approached, to my alarm he turned out to be an exhibitionist. He could have been dangerous, I don't know, but he sure scared the crap out of me. And it was right in front of my own house - and I had my dog with me at the time.)

      So this is an important issue for parents to be aware of. It's not just something that happens between adults. Of course, you might already know this.

      Yes, sites can hurt you, especially if you are linking back. That's the key. Make sure the sites are good quality sites, not junk sites, and not sites that are nothing but link farms. Also, sites that have relevant links - many just add links for the sake of adding them.

      Always check the sites before agreeing to a link. You want the sites to offer an extension to what you're offering. You want quality. Think of it like reading a book. When you're done, it's great to get to the Resources page and see places you can look for additional information on the topic.

      That's the whole idea behind link exchanges, as far as Google is concerned - and it should be for all web site owners. Adding more value.

      Now, if a site links to you and you don't link back, Google simply ignores it. You have no control over who puts up your link. Just don't link back.

      Hope this clears up some issues for you.

      Sylvia




      Originally Posted by endre View Post

      Wow, I'm overwhelmed with the response. I belong to a couple of other forums, similar to this, but I'm lucky if I get two or three replies.

      I'm sorting through the info and a few things stand out. One is, Are the sites complementary. I would say they are not. People who are looking for dates, are not looking for information on exhibitionism.

      So there seems little to be gained on that front. And as bgmacaw says, sites that you link to can hurt you. I'm wondering why that might be.

      Also Sequincer says the other site (the dating site) may not be clean. I'm wondering why. Does that mean it is pornographic (I don't think so), or does "clean" have some special internet meaning?

      A couple of you have mentioned to do a three-way link. Can someone please explain what this is? Why does it give you a "one way link"? And, perhaps more importantly, will this be of any benefit if the sites are not complementary? Google apparently looks for relevancy. Is the fact that both sites deal with sexual topics enough to make them related (even if they are not so in reality)?

      Just a quick word to ggross who asked what sort of site I run (with a view to a possible link exchange). Mine is an information site about exhibitionism. Exhibitionism is the #1 sex crime in the West but little is known about it, and little has been written about it (there is, for example, no book on the subject). As an informational site, I think it is not really relevant to dating. I might be wrong. I'm new at all this.

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      • Profile picture of the author sylviad
        I should mention...

        If you want to link exchange, I can help you with the mental health angle.

        My main site, book-titles.ca, focuses on anxiety, depression, self-esteem and stress mostly. If there's some way to link exhibitionism with any of these, we can do a swap. I run a separate blog on the free service and have a Squidoo lens on this topic, too, so we could organize a 3-way.

        What I could do is write something for my site on your topic with a reference to possibly stress as a trigger, and link back to you.

        Let me know.

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  • Profile picture of the author endre
    Hi Sylvia

    Thanks for all that. You've firmed my decision. A dating site really has no relevancy to my site and I would be doing my visitors a disfavour by sending them off on something that has little or no bearing on the subject. I know I get pretty mad when it happens to me

    You've certainly broadened the horizons by suggesting other related categories such as crime, safety, mental health and women's sites. I do eventually hope to get a substantial amount of women's input as exhibitionism involves women possibly as much as men - if only passively. Most women have been flashed, many of them multiple times, yet most studies on this subject ignore women's input. There have been a couple of studies on women's reactions, but not much more to my knowledge.

    Your suggestion on the stress connection is relevant too. There have been some studies showing that stress can bring on bouts of exhibitionism. These are the occasional flashers who then stop once the stress is resolved. The majority however are "career flashers", who do it whether they're under stress or not - pretty much a compulsive, obsessive behaviour.

    My site at the moment is a new one, with not a great deal of info, and it is directed at the career flashers, but I will eventually have to broaden it to include the stress factor. I imagine I'd have to do a "stress page" and then link to you. It might take me some time to get the stress angle going, as I'm not all that good on that subject. I suppose I could always look up those studies and then reproduce them.

    Perhaps you have some thoughts on this. Let me know.

    I'm not sure I should be discussing all this on the Warrior Forum. Hope it's OK

    Thanks once again
    Andrew
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