How many searches per month shiould a good niche have?

xDennis · 12-22-2008, 07:03 AM

Hello,
I've been working on a niche for about 15 days now, and I'm a little concerned that my niche is not searched enough to get good organic traffic. Between all the keyword phrases in the niche there is probably only 3,000 searches a month and that's about 15 phrases.

I was watching a video somewhere, I think youtube and the guy said once you have found a niche that gets about 10k searches a month, then go on to step 2..which was starting the website and what not.

So is my KW base not strong enough for good traffic?

I get decent traffic from craigslist.. but that's not natural so i'm not counting that.

Dennis

xDennis · 12-22-2008, 07:29 AM

If I use the main keyword then there are hundreds of thousands of competition and i'll virtually never get to the top though. That's why I thought you pick out phrases that have a search count that has less comp, or am I thinking wrong? (I usually am LOL)

Jerry Mcvictor · 12-22-2008, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xDennis

If I use the main keyword then there are hundreds of thousands of competition and i'll virtually never get to the top though. That's why I thought you pick out phrases that have a search count that has less comp, or am I thinking wrong? (I usually am LOL)

That's okay, but you still need enough searches to make it worth your time. Personally I go for keywords with at least 2,000 searches per month. You could also use Adwords if you have doubts about the traffic potential of a keyword.

Regards

Johan

xDennis · 12-22-2008, 09:38 AM

What about exact phrase match, what is a good number to stay under.

Zachary R. Skinner · 12-22-2008, 09:40 AM

I think it really depends on the amount of competition.

If a niche market has little or no competition then a just a few hundred searches per month can be profitable, assuming there are products to promote for that niche.

I've just posted a series of niche marketing articles on my blog that you may want to check out (check out my sig).

stsnelson · 12-22-2008, 10:14 AM

Let me add a little twist to this to open your mind a little.

One of my clients key phrases gets only 50 searches a month. Of the 50, approximately 20 visit the site. Of that 20 about 7 to 10 usually order. The average order is $500. And that's for one key phrase.

So, my question to you is, "Is the key phrase very specific and targeting buyers? Or, is it general?"

I rarely worry about the number of searches because my tests have shown that I could make some good money for myself and clients targeting prhases most people overlook.

That's not to say I do not go after the high searched key phrases as I do.

At the end of the day, "What would your target market type in?"

tommygadget · 12-22-2008, 10:18 AM

If you are in a niche that pays $20 per action, 20 sales is nothing. If you are promoting a $1,000 offer, 20 sales is great. It all depends.

TomG.

xDennis · 12-22-2008, 01:29 PM

Hi Tom,
My ultimate goal is to build a list, then back end market. I don't have a personal product yet, however I think I should right one as I do have visitors.

Thanks for all the input, I think in my case, the smaller searches are okay because they are very targetted and I believe people are making action. Each day I have between 20-30 visitors and I receive about 3 or 4 new subscriptions.. so that is a 10% success rate.. I think that's good for getting new subscribers?

AverageGuy · 12-22-2008, 01:39 PM

I think the key thing is not the search volumn. even if it has only 100 searches per day, as long as you win the competition, it still brings $. The key is: whether you can win the competition.

david

12-22-2008, 07:03 AM	#1
xDennis HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: OH , FL Posts: 382 Thanks: 61 Thanked 36 Times in 13 Posts	How many searches per month shiould a good niche have? Hello, I've been working on a niche for about 15 days now, and I'm a little concerned that my niche is not searched enough to get good organic traffic. Between all the keyword phrases in the niche there is probably only 3,000 searches a month and that's about 15 phrases. I was watching a video somewhere, I think youtube and the guy said once you have found a niche that gets about 10k searches a month, then go on to step 2..which was starting the website and what not. So is my KW base not strong enough for good traffic? I get decent traffic from craigslist.. but that's not natural so i'm not counting that. Dennis

12-22-2008, 07:29 AM	#2
xDennis HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: OH , FL Posts: 382 Thanks: 61 Thanked 36 Times in 13 Posts	Re: How many searches per month shiould a good niche have? If I use the main keyword then there are hundreds of thousands of competition and i'll virtually never get to the top though. That's why I thought you pick out phrases that have a search count that has less comp, or am I thinking wrong? (I usually am LOL)

12-22-2008, 09:38 AM	#4
xDennis HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: OH , FL Posts: 382 Thanks: 61 Thanked 36 Times in 13 Posts	Re: How many searches per month shiould a good niche have? What about exact phrase match, what is a good number to stay under.

12-22-2008, 09:40 AM	#5
Zachary R. Skinner Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Beavercreek, Ohio Posts: 1,489 Thanks: 57 Thanked 113 Times in 25 Posts Social Networking	Re: How many searches per month shiould a good niche have? I think it really depends on the amount of competition. If a niche market has little or no competition then a just a few hundred searches per month can be profitable, assuming there are products to promote for that niche. I've just posted a series of niche marketing articles on my blog that you may want to check out (check out my sig).

12-22-2008, 10:14 AM	#6
stsnelson WBTD Guy War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bronx, NY Posts: 566 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts Social Networking	Re: How many searches per month shiould a good niche have? Let me add a little twist to this to open your mind a little. One of my clients key phrases gets only 50 searches a month. Of the 50, approximately 20 visit the site. Of that 20 about 7 to 10 usually order. The average order is $500. And that's for one key phrase. So, my question to you is, "Is the key phrase very specific and targeting buyers? Or, is it general?" I rarely worry about the number of searches because my tests have shown that I could make some good money for myself and clients targeting prhases most people overlook. That's not to say I do not go after the high searched key phrases as I do. At the end of the day, "What would your target market type in?"
	Shawn Nelson

12-22-2008, 10:18 AM	#7
tommygadget Banned War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Up North, USA Posts: 2,517 Blog Entries: 11 Thanks: 88 Thanked 288 Times in 157 Posts Social Networking	Re: How many searches per month shiould a good niche have? If you are in a niche that pays $20 per action, 20 sales is nothing. If you are promoting a $1,000 offer, 20 sales is great. It all depends. TomG.

12-22-2008, 01:29 PM	#8
xDennis HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: OH , FL Posts: 382 Thanks: 61 Thanked 36 Times in 13 Posts	Re: How many searches per month shiould a good niche have? Hi Tom, My ultimate goal is to build a list, then back end market. I don't have a personal product yet, however I think I should right one as I do have visitors. Thanks for all the input, I think in my case, the smaller searches are okay because they are very targetted and I believe people are making action. Each day I have between 20-30 visitors and I receive about 3 or 4 new subscriptions.. so that is a 10% success rate.. I think that's good for getting new subscribers?

12-22-2008, 01:39 PM	#9
AverageGuy Not Jr. Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: LA, CA, USA. Posts: 2,185 Thanks: 12 Thanked 41 Times in 41 Posts	Re: How many searches per month shiould a good niche have? I think the key thing is not the search volumn. even if it has only 100 searches per day, as long as you win the competition, it still brings $. The key is: whether you can win the competition. david
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