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What are the pros and cons of squidoo and ezine? I hate the way ezine are not live for days so wondering if squidoo can be as powerful? |
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besides that back link, i have had a really, really tough time with squidoo. So much I prefer not to use it. I get more views from article sites.
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I think you're comparing apples to oranges. A Squidoo lens is essentially a free mini-website, while EzineArticles is a free article submission service. In terms of gaining traffic, they're both great. One of the pros in favor of Squidoo that I can think of though is that you can publish a Squidoo lens instantly after it's built; with EZA, you usually have to wait some time before your articles are published.
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The # 1 problem most struggling internet marketers have is generating traffic.......to any affiliate vendor page, or their own product pages There is a way to integrate squidoo, articles, and blogs to get your website indexed, and generate links, and direct traffic for free...think of it as a owning more internet real estate ==>> | |
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I agree with JoshuaCreighton. Both are different and both will generate traffic. While ezine takes time to publish your articles, you will get published faster once you gain credibility. Squidoo on the other hand has more applications, and you can gain traffic right away once you start networking with other squidoo-ers. With the right keywords, both your ezine articles or squidoo lenses can get indexed pretty quickly in Google or Yahoo.
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Squidoo has the advantage in the fact you can use blatant self promotion. (you can`t do that with eza) Ezinearticles has the advantage of ranking better than squidoo(thus bringing more visitors). All of the above are part of my experience. |
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I find ezinearticles more effective, just because they are easier to set up. I can knock out a lot of articles in one day, whereas squidoo lenses take a lot more time and you may need to network and put in a lot of effort (as you would when creating any new website). I suppose it depends what you are trying to get out of it, but for me ezinearticles is the way to go.
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i know ezine articles get ranked high but how can you boost i.e were do you get backlinks from
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Articles on directories are good for a short term flush of visitors eg: ezinearticles.com but the article quickly disappears unless it is very tightly niched long-tail keyword etc. (I do have some articles that still get me visitors 5 years after they were written) But you cant update them, or change urls in your bio box, and you can only have two links in most articles, you cant add new content to them... you are stuck with whatever went up the first submission. But with a Squidoo, you can get top Google ranking for your lens, attracting free organic traffic, you can promote affiliate links/websites to your hearts content, and the squidoos are a great way to pre-sell your reader before they go to the sale site page. You can keep updating and pinging your lenses, and have hundreds of them at no on-going cost to yourself. Squidoo gives your website a PR7 backlink, and as I'm fond of saying, Squidoo is the only marketing tool I know of that PAYS YOU to actually use it. Yes, if you have a few lenses up that you maintain and refresh, you will be earning a nice little income from Amazon, eBay, Google etc. etc. while the lens is promoting your core product or website ---- woo hoo! I also managed to get brand new websites Google ranked in top 10 pages within a week of creating them by using Squidoo lenses And if you do a lot of social networking, you will know that Myspace uses a warning system for anyone clicking on links in Myspace posts, that would deter any faint-hearted person clicking on your links.... but guess what ... a squidoo link goes straight out without any hassles! So while I totally support article marketing and use it myself for organic traffic and PR/linking etc for my websites and also to link to my squidoos (as pre-sellers for affiliate products), there is no doubt in my mind that if I could only ever do ONE of these things, Squidoo would win. Hope this helps you in your marketing campaing priorotizing! |
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Has anybody else noticed its getting harder to get ranked on the Google 1st page with squidoo lens in the past 2-3 months.....hardly see any top 10 squidoo lens lately.. Maybe overall traffic has dropped at squidoo...thoughts please? |
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EzineArticles is hands-down the best choice. They can beat Squidoo lens in terms of ranking anytime. But rather than compare them both, why not use both of them? I have done some testings and apparently, people feel more comfortable buying through a link via EzineArticles than Squidoo lens. This is probably because the EzineArticles page center itself on pure content, and the call to action is clear-cut and straightforward via the author resource link whereas Squidoo lens can create quite a bit of confusion with too many modules. Then again, it really depends on how you use it and whether your call to action is clear. |
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I think Joshua is right, There are two different things with both its advantages. Personally I had more traffic with EzineArticles. | |
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Do what I do....use both EzineArticles and Squidoo. In fact, you should be diversified among many different sites. Have them all point to your landing page/squeeze page/affiliate page. Look at Bumpzee, Quizilla, Propeller.....There's so many out there. So many people only limit themselves to Squidoo, EzineArticles, and HubPages. Do some research and you will see that there are MANY high pagerank sites that you can point to your landingpage/squeeze page/affiliate page. Google loves links....Just remember that! |
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I'm in agreement with MidwestMike. I think it's important to diversify by using both article submission sites, Squidoo, Hubpages, Gather pages, etc to create backlinks. What I happen to like about Squidoo and other such sites over the standard article submission sites is that they ENCOURAGE interaction by the visitor. Sure, EzineArticles allos people to post comments and rate, but I hardly ever see visitors actually do so.... |
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Blogspot Blogs and Associated Content are also good for backlinks. And Associated Content is good for traffic. But I agree with what's being said here - you want as much traffic and backlinks as possible, so pick at least a few places where you regularly create and post content. Experiment, see what drives the best traffic for your niche, and go with those that work the best for you. For instance a lot of people here swear by isnare. I got lousy results from them - and this is from their PAID service. |
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just use both, Squidoo and EZA. It doesn't matter if they take days to approve your article, once it's approved, you will get traffic and backlinks. You need to use all the web20 sources at the same time. Outsource if you can. Franck |
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I'm very new to all this but have made a couple of Squidoo lenses but I can't get hardly any traffic to them at all.
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There both great, but my squidoo lenses don't rank as high any more. I remember reading somewhere that Google slapped them. But Its all about building presence and back links. Squidoo has a large community, but I would probably focus my efforts else where.
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There are pros and cons for using each. Squidoo allows you to be flexible with your content presentation and gives you the freedom to have as many links as you like (but don't overdo it, of course). The downside is that it takes a longer time to add more modules and do a quality lens. Ezinearticles is much easier, as all you have to do is submit your content (which you already have). The downside is that you only get to have 2 links, (they're at the bottom of your article), and you're competing with EA's adsense ads where you're not getting a share. |
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Hi, Nice topic this. Squidoo. Now let me see. First you post, and then you network to get the traffic. Mmm. EzineArticles, you post but it takes a while to surface (not a problem that but let's see about traffic...over time it does arrive alright WITHOUT networking for it!). You can also try Hub Pages. I've had better results from them than Squidoo. I am not knocking either of these methods (I use them all), so please don't go getting the wrong end of the stick. Heard that good ole saying ... every little helps? Well that's it then. Now, in my personal experience (and this is how I've been stealing traffic from Google left and right of late), I just go "Laying Down In Traffic". What this means is, I find out what people are searching for on Google Hot Trends (google.com/trends/hottrends)...updated on the hour, and I write an article very quickly around that, and blog it! I get tons of absolutely FREE organic traffic from the engines that way EVEN when I stop blogging for a while. Why? Because that is actually what people are searching for at that point in time. It's that simple. I'd be happy to show you how I do it. Just send me a PM. Best of luck! Anthony |
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In terms of traffic ezinearticles is better then squidoo . But it usually takes a while to get approved in ezine.
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| well if you can pull off a really well organized content rich squidoo lens then you have a good chance of getting quality traffic. Ezine takes about a week to review and accept your articles. I would go with both although ezine requires less work and can bring good traffic over time!
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I find Ezinearticles more my style. I write a good article to drive traffic to a site and that's it! Squidoo is building a mini-site with different sections. I know others who do great with them but I'm just a slow builder!
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I've tried both of these methods and chose to go with EzineArticles because I got better results with them. I tried Squidoo (and HubPages too) but it was just too much work on top of what I was doing. I already have a blog that I need to create content for, and Squidoo and HubPages are basically like mini blogs, so I was updating and creating content for multiple blogs. After two months of getting zero traffic from 3 Lenses and 2 Hubs (and barely any views) I decided to go with article writing as at least I'm getting some traffic from that. Try both and see if you have any luck. A lot of people do, but like some folks mentioned, you need to keep updating your lenses if you want them to work for you. Sean |
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I say from my brief time in IM Ezine is the clear winner..traffic and high placement..I could be wroong but i have never seen squidoo in a google search page
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Hi, I just don't seem to get any results with squidoo and as a reult don't bother with it anymore. I have put quite a bit of time and effort into creating lens's and doing everything I need to after following mini-course after mini-coursse telling me what to do and so on, and I just don't get the desired results. Have had good results with Hubs, however. Personally, I like article directories which seem to provide me with strong, steady traffic. Cheers |
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Squidoo has made some changes in their policies lately and a lot of people's lenses have been removed for being "spammy". My traffic on my lenses has been bubkiss so I concentrate on Ezine now.
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Squidoo takes time, you need to build lots of followers and once you do you need to ping the lens and drive traffic. However the article is faster to do. Plus it doesn't need maintenance. It's a matter of which do you want to do more? |
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For traffic i would go for eizine, tend to get higher up search engines with article sites, one mius point is the waiting to be approved.
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I have built 10 squidoo lenses and 2 of them brings me a nice traffic about 100-200 visitors with 60 clickouts per week. So it's like starting a Adwords campaign, where 1 out of 10 will be a winning campaign. I've also noticed that these 2 profitable squidoo lenses are more than 2000 words long, containing several sub topics and all the necessary modules to bring traffic. What mostly excites me, is that these 2 squidoo lenses was last time updated on 7/3/09, and I still get about 200 visitors a week! |
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I love ezine articles. They are one of the top ranking sites for article readers. I love specially their writing styles. They are so organized. The main thing which is a plus point to me is their writing are based on easy English.
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Dean got it up above. Squidoo is great for preselling, ezines is great for instant traffic. Why not combine the two? Here's a little secret that I do, I use ezines to send traffic to my squidoo pages, my squidoo pages are where I pre-sell. Then my ezine articles make my lens's rank higher for the keyword anyway, now I am getting traffic from all of them! |
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Most of my lenses are deleted too.....I've been very busy with article writing that I forgot to check my squidoo lenses. Then I found out that my lenses were deleted. I tried to make a new account and plan to post my new articles but to my surprise with their new policy it is so hard to start a new lens. Just the title of "How to Get Rid of...." will be flagged as spammy. I just want to ask with their new policy that lenses promoting or selling ebooks or affiliate programs on medical cures like yeast infections, hair loss, snoring etc. are considered spammy...I am wondering can you still make new lenses now?..I want to create new lenses but with this new policy, it is really hard. It is like Squidoo is no longer IM friendly...what do you think? | |
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In my eyes, they are two totally different things. I view Squidoo as more of a way to build a minisite (or at least you can if you want) and EZA as a way to publish an article. You can use a Squidoo lens like an EZA article but you can't create an EZA article similar to a lens. Squidoo definitely has a lot more flexibility. With that said, they are both very powerful ways to drive traffic and generate sales as they are both authority type websites. A little promotion can take either platform a long way in terms of what you are trying to accomplish (which I'm going to guess is making money ).
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in term of backlink to main site (keyword.com) which is the batter?,
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Again, using them both won't hurt. They're both essential for getting traffic especially if you're targeted with the niche you're promoting. I've had couple of successes on both as well from experience.
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I've used both to much success. building niche sites. also it's important to keep note that integrated marketing is where success is built. With too much competition out there you need to enter different sites to get you ranked on certain keywords. This is key. All the best, F |
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Someone, earlier, mentioned that Ezine Articles can be a way to gain "Instant traffic". The truth is, on any PR7 to PR4 Web 2.0 revenue share (or non-revenue share, like EZA), content aggregation site, if you do your SEO right, you CAN get 'instant traffic'. Each platform offers a plethora of possibilities for what and how you can actually use it to divert those visitors, that you gobble up from the search engines, to better yourself, your website/your personal brand. There are some who will swear against using Web 2.0 sites, citing the argument that it isn't your own piece of real estate online. I can name over 20 Web 2.0 revenue share (or non-revenue share) models and arrangements, and more and more seem to emerge with each day. I've seen revenue share models range from giving writers 0% (Ezine Articles) to as high as 100%. (Unfortunately, this is where one is unwise to only consider the revenue share aspects of a site, when making a final determination whether or not to write for it. I would much rather write for a PR8 site that offers tons more pre-established search engine authority, and less revenue share, as opposed to a PR2/3 site that offer 100% revenue share.) For years, Squidoo has been an affiliate marketers heaven, however, their revenue share arrangement needs a complete overhaul, and, I'd LIKE to see Ezine Articles share revenue, as well. Granted, both have businesses to run, however, there is emerging competition that completely mop the floor with their revenue share arrangements. There is a bit of a Catch-22, with Squidoo, that I have noticed in my own lensmaking and experiments. With their inherent affiliate moduldes (Amazon, etc), if a sale is made, the lensmasters split that commission with Squidoo, 50%/50% (Unless this has changed recently, this commission is not subject to the tiered payment Co-op arrangement). When a sale is made, via a Squidoo module (in which they earn revenue for their company, as well), it always appeared like a lens would be catapulted in terms of pagerank. A higher consistent pagerank mean that people would have a better chance of competing for the monthly tiered payment, as well. The 'catch-22', and people have to determine what is truly "worth it" for them, but had you NOT used Squidoo's own affiliate modules, and used your own affiliate links, you would earn 100% of revenue generated. Of course, your lens wouldn't necessarily incur as great of a benefit in lensrank. Getting Started With Squidoo: Payment FAQ "....The first thing to know about tiers is that not all lenses are created equal. We work in a meritocracy, where lenses earn royalties based on how well they perform. We believe in paying our best people, who make the best lenses, more...." My major criticisms of Squidoo is founded on the fact that, although their tiered revenue share arrangement was established essentially to prevent click-fraud, with increasing competition (tons of lensmaster, creating tons of lenses, all vying to get into the top tier), it is becoming nearly impossible to qualify for a miniscule tiered payment. In order to do so requires nothing short of daily updates and alot of hard work. Had one not updated their lens for a day, lenses are notorious for slipping in lensrank, significantly (100's to 1,000's of places) seemingly overnight. In theory, it is meant to foster competition allow the BEST lensmasters to surface, however, it is really quite tiring to do....leaving the BEST lensmasters fatigued, with a small tiered payment to show for it each month. I'm sure some do well, there, with their own affiliate links. Once again, though, it makes sense that Squidoo would internally favor lenses that are consistent and proficient with making sales through their affiliate modules. (Afterall, that is a major means by which Squidoo earns it's revenue). It's all about striking a balance between what is good for yourself, and what is good for the community. | |
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They are both high PR/authority sites, so one SHOULD be able to easily get a high ranking for an article....yet many struggle to get any kind of traffic at all. The real testament of skill, and one thing I would LOVE to see the "gurus" out there do, is produce similar results with a PR4 website. On PR4 websites, I guarantee that I can do (and have done) what those on PR7 Web 2.0 websites can only dream of. Remember, it takes just as much time to be successful, as it does to completely fail (at least in regards to SEO/traffic/etc). Many people just shoot arrows into the wind, with a serious hit-or-miss strategy. That won't cut it nowadays anymore. | |
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I didn't even notice the year the thread was begun....good catch though.... EDIT: Before I posted, there was a post above mine that mentioned that this thread was from 2008. Feel free to delete this post if need be. |
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You've gotten great feedback alread, but here's my take anyway. EzineArticles Vs Squidoo for getting an article ranked = Ezinearticles all day long EzineArticles Vs Squidoo for building backlinks = Both are useful, my opinion that ezine carries more weight. EzineArticles Vs Squidoo for speed of implementation = Squidoo EzineArticles Vs Squidoo for stand alone promotion method = Neither! take care, Dustin |
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I think if you want to promote your site well and need to increase the traffic then you should go for both....
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Does anyone here do any kind of backlinking, to their articles, at all? Granted, with the pre-established search engine authority of high PR sites, you 'may' have to do very little backlinking (compared to your competition), however, I get the impression, from some of the posts here, that many here seem to just expect their article to rank and get floods of traffic immediately. If that doesn't occur, regardless of the platform, it seems like many are quick to disregard the entire platform as ineffective. There are MANY things you can do, regardless of the platform, to significantly increase your traffic and visibility. Like I said earlier, I've been doing, with PR4 sites, what those on PR7/8 sites could only dream of. It's all about knowing your competition, and knowing if it is even in your best interest to compete in the first place. Would you engage one of those 300 Spartan Warriors if you weren't in top-notch physical condition and KNEW that you could beat them? There are some people here who are wasting a serious amount of time because they aren't doing the appropriate research...and, then, they blame the site for not producing the results (traffic, etc.). You may be able to get away with it here or there, but you should always reinforce your own strategy with other methods (backlinking, etc). The days of just posting an article, and seeing if it 'sticks' are gone. People are much more smart and competitive. |
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Even though I don't use them, many here have had success with Ezine Articles. A direct call-to-action is allowed. Call-to-actions are different than, say, a 'contextual' link which essentially blends into the articles content. People will swear by 'call-to-actions', however there are ways to make 'contextual' links effective, as well. On Squidoo, you will find a multitude of module, to the point of almost being intimidating to a newbie. Personally, I think that most of them are worthless....adhering to only a small handful of modules when I craft a lens. With all these sites/Web 2.0 platforms, it comes down to research and backlinking. Like I said earlier, I've been quite successful with taking articles on a PR4 site, and, oftentimes, making them rank similar or higher than articles on PR7. With high PR authority websites, I admit, people have become a bit complacent, and are conditioned by the pre-established search engine authority, where they do very little of the leg work to achieve a higher ranking/greater traffic. Oftentimes, they just post an article, let it go at that, and then criticize the platform itself for not being effective, when, in fact, had they built a few backlinks, they could have increased their rank and traffic significantly. | |
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To those who use EZA or Squidoo (I apologize for the bump, although I did spend ALOT of time writing some of my responses here....) ....I'm actually quite interested in the specifics of your experiences in both places. In October 2009, Squidoo did announce that it's highest earning member earned $1,300. Unfortunately, little is ever said about earnings that go beyond the tiered/Co-op/50% affiliate module commissions. How are your earnings/business with your own affiliate links? How about on EZA? Do YOU get a significant amount of traffic in both places? Do you not use either platform? Which do you prefer as an alternative? Lots of questions.... |
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In a few days, I can see the article getting backlinks. | |
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Do you have alot of articles on EZA? | |
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| I actually use other article directories more than EZA, as for the time it takes for the approval. However, yes I benefit with more traffic, when I submit the URL to social bookmarking. In return it makes more money.
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