Laid off... driven to find success online

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Hello all,

First, I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Anthony and I recently was laid off by a major corporate company based in the US.

I've been reading about IM for a while now, and to be honest I'm a bit overwhelmed. There are so many avenues to choose from, so many niches, so many ways to make a living online.

How do I choose one? What would be the simplest thing to start with while I learn and grow within this industry? I know you all probably hear this a lot, but I truly have no idea which direction I should head down.

I've read about blogging, AdSense, SEO, CPA, ran a small eBay business for a while also, but that fell by the way side when work got crazy.

But now I'm laid off, and desperate to get something going for myself. I'm willing to try anything and am 100% driven to work hard now and play later.

I've only been on the forum a few days, and have noticed how extremely helpful everyone is here, so I figured I'd put a post up for assistance and introduce myself, and just dive right in and embrace this great tool! ... Even if I look massively noob-ish :]

I hope to become a part of this community and get to know many of you!

Thank you for your time, and I eagerly await some feedback.
#driven #find #laid #online #success
  • Profile picture of the author Michael Franklin
    Hi Anthony!

    Welcome to the forum!

    I definitely tell people who come to IM that they need to focus on their short-term and long-term income needs.

    Look into freelancing your skills or offline marketing (which Warrior Forum has an excellent forum all about) to develop more short term income and focus about half of your time there.

    Then take some time and research the various methods on here. Look at some of the 5 star posts on here to get an idea of what has worked for others. Pinpoint the one that would work for you and then just put the blinders on and take massive action. That's where half of your other available time should be spent!

    Work on those 2 and you will be on your way!
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    • Profile picture of the author del1
      Hi there, first of , I'm sorry to say there's no quick way to riches in IM, specially if you are looking for a long term business, and that's what it is a "BUSINESS". so it takes time any effort and work at it. It seems to me that you been learning the different routes you can choose from,and that's where the confusion starts, you can get lost in the IM maze. Trust me it will save you a lots of money and sever headaches .....
      As I always say, if you decided that's what you want to do, I suggest find yourself a "Mentor" that you can trust and follow his/her steps.
      Wishing you all the best and welcome to the community.
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  • Profile picture of the author Themeplated
    There's no defined "simplest" route, as the variables are different for everyone.

    I'll happily give you some advice, but I'll need to know a few more things to make it worth while:

    1) What are your goals? Do you want just enough for stability? $10,000 a month? $20,000 a month? And within what time-frame?

    2) What skills do you have? Have you got any experience with design/development, or are you looking for a solution that doesn't involve that? What about being a general webmaster, SEO, maintenance etc?

    3) Are you trying to start without spending a dime? Or do you have some capital at your disposal? If so, how much?

    4) Of the ideas that you've read about, which one did you warm to the post? AdSense? CPA? Or perhaps something else?
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    • Profile picture of the author Aubaine
      @Fireworks Labs

      1) What are your goals? Do you want just enough for stability? $10,000 a month? $20,000 a month? And within what time-frame?
      Well I'm working with my roommate on this, and we live in New York (not cheap) so I'm looking to at least pay our rent(maybe even all bills) with this venture. As for time frame, definitely looking at the short term because of my lack of work.

      2) What skills do you have? Have you got any experience with design/development, or are you looking for a solution that doesn't involve that? What about being a general webmaster, SEO, maintenance etc?
      I have a little experience running a website, I've maintained a few pages in the past, mainly fan pages (I tried to start a product forever ago, but would gladly speak about it if information is wanted). As for general webmaster and SEO work, that's where I was leaning toward. I like playing with code, the trial and error, the frustrations of failure and the ecstasy of success.

      3) Are you trying to start without spending a dime? Or do you have some capital at your disposal? If so, how much?
      Monetarily, my partner and I can spend some money. But we want to start small, knowing the ROI will be small. We just want proof this venture is something we can do, and do profitably before investing too much.

      4) Of the ideas that you've read about, which one did you warm to the post? AdSense? CPA? Or perhaps something else?
      I like the idea of multi-level marketing, the opt in and residual income sounds great. But again, I'm far more interested in SEO work, as I know business owners I could immediately jump into bed with, so to speak...
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  • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
    Anthony, welcome to the forum.

    Here's a couple questions:

    What job were you laid off from? What is your expertise?
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    • Profile picture of the author Aubaine
      @kindsvater - Thank you!!!


      Here's a couple questions:

      What job were you laid off from? What is your expertise?
      I worked for a company called Bausch and Lomb, which dealt with everything eye care, solutions, surgical equipment, pharma products, etc. I however worked in Tier 1 IT, mainly did triage work for sales rep's and business execs, if they had issues with their PC's, network, Apple Devices (iPhones, iPads, etc) I would assist them.
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      • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
        Originally Posted by Aubaine View Post

        @kindsvater - Thank you!!!


        Here's a couple questions:

        What job were you laid off from? What is your expertise?
        I worked for a company called Bausch and Lomb, which dealt with everything eye care, solutions, surgical equipment, pharma products, etc. I however worked in Tier 1 IT, mainly did triage work for sales rep's and business execs, if they had issues with their PC's, network, Apple Devices (iPhones, iPads, etc) I would assist them.
        Anthony,

        Here's an idea:

        Write down the most common problems the reps had with their iPhones and iPads.

        For each problem you are going to write down in excruciatingly stupid detail - so a 10-year old could understand (err, so a 40-year old nontechie who cannot operate their VCR could understand) - how to fix that problem.

        AND/OR

        Have this in video form.

        This will be clear and concise. No technical language. No acronyms. etc.

        You now have a product you are expertly qualified to sell.

        You now also have options ...

        You could sell this product to consumers. I have no idea what is available for free that you would be competing with, what others have to sell, etc., but it is an option.

        There are probably people on Apple forums right now wondering how do I ... and you can be there with some advice, and hopefully a signature file that directs them to where they can buy your guide.

        You could have a website with this information on it for free and make money from Adsense ads on the pages.

        You could sell this on the Warrior Forum and other places to other marketers. Other marketers may be interested in doing the above. They may be interested in resell rights (having the right to resell what you have prepared). They may be interested in PLR rights (putting their name on the it as their own to sell) and/or being able to modify this for their own use.

        Hopefully, the juices are now going and your brain is starting to whir with ideas.

        .
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        • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
          Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

          Anthony,

          Here's an idea:

          Write down the most common problems the reps had with their iPhones and iPads.

          For each problem you are going to write down in excruciatingly stupid detail - so a 10-year old could understand (err, so a 40-year old nontechie who cannot operate their VCR could understand) - how to fix that problem.
          Anthony, did you miss this post by kindsvater?

          He has outlined that you know of a problem that you can solve with experience for a target market that has money to spend on fast and simple solutions.

          This is a perfect platform for you to learn about product creation and how to promote it using SEO, paid traffic, video marketing, email marketing etc.

          Also, did you actually need to be part of a company to solve the problems these exec's and technophobes had? OR could you solve their problems as a service from your own home office?

          Maybe other businesses with execs might be able to find your services using your newly found internet marketing knowledge, or if you don't want to offer a service perhaps you can inform these other businesses about your online resource of proven solutions.

          Fair enough if you don't want to stay in the IT support niche but it does sound like a great market for your existing skillset.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    Services are the fastest way to make short term income. I would highly suggest starting by offering a service and then branching into a way to make passive income. Do you know about SEO? Do you know how to create a good website? Can you write?
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    • Profile picture of the author Aubaine
      @AmandaT - I read your story late last night, Congratulations!!! I certainly hope I can find the same success here as you did.

      Services are the fastest way to make short term income. I would highly suggest starting by offering a service and then branching into a way to make passive income. Do you know about SEO? Do you know how to create a good website? Can you write?
      What kind of services? I don't know much about SEO, but that is what I have been focusing on learning, it seems to call to me. I can't create a website myself, but was looking at taking courses on how to do so, as it is most certainly something I want to do, I can maintain, but not create. As far as writing... I am very rusty, but was always passionate about english and history in college... so if given a topic, I am fairly confident I could compose something useful.
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      • Profile picture of the author Josh Richardson
        Originally Posted by Aubaine View Post

        @AmandaT - I read your story late last night, Congratulations!!! I certainly hope I can find the same success here as you did.

        Services are the fastest way to make short term income. I would highly suggest starting by offering a service and then branching into a way to make passive income. Do you know about SEO? Do you know how to create a good website? Can you write?
        What kind of services? I don't know much about SEO, but that is what I have been focusing on learning, it seems to call to me. I can't create a website myself, but was looking at taking courses on how to do so, as it is most certainly something I want to do, I can maintain, but not create. As far as writing... I am very rusty, but was always passionate about english and history in college... so if given a topic, I am fairly confident I could compose something useful.
        If your interested in SEO, generally, i believe your going to need a course. A fantastic product which i have purchased is Bring The Fresh - the support is great and it shows you how to rank small niche sites to the first page of google that create varying amounts of cash per day.

        By a service to get you going, it seems like you write fairly good english, so article writing / content may be an avenue to go down to get you some start up capital. I know a lot of Warriors start this way.

        Sorry to hear about you being laid off, i know it sucks, has happened to me before. But roll with the punches - something good always comes out of something bad .

        Good luck with your venture!

        Josh
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        • Profile picture of the author Aubaine
          @Josh Richardson

          If your interested in SEO, generally, i believe your going to need a course. A fantastic product which i have purchased is Bring The Fresh - the support is great and it shows you how to rank small niche sites to the first page of google that create varying amounts of cash per day.
          Thank you for the advice, I have made note of the product, and will research it in the morning.

          By a service to get you going, it seems like you write fairly good english, so article writing / content may be an avenue to go down to get you some start up capital. I know a lot of Warriors start this way.
          I think I would actually enjoy doing that, maybe I'll put the word out to do some freelance writing, possibly even for free, just to sharpen my teeth. What do those types of services typically pay? Or better yet, what is a killer deal for some decent CRing?

          Sorry to hear about you being laid off, i know it sucks, has happened to me before. But roll with the punches - something good always comes out of something bad .
          Thank you, I look at this unhappy event as a great opportunity!
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    • Profile picture of the author Robert Brauer
      Originally Posted by AmandaT View Post

      Services are the fastest way to make short term income. I would highly suggest starting by offering a service and then branching into a way to make passive income. Do you know about SEO? Do you know how to create a good website? Can you write?
      Yea, I totally agree. Providing a service (article writing, backlink building, etc) is the fastest way to make enough money to live off of.

      Anyone that tells you that you can make a full time living "on autopilot" in a few weeks is either lying or trying to sell you something...

      To pay your bills and get some cash flow that you can invest back into your business, do as AmandaT says - provide a good service
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    • Profile picture of the author Troy Broussard
      Originally Posted by AmandaT View Post

      Services are the fastest way to make short term income. I would highly suggest starting by offering a service and then branching into a way to make passive income. Do you know about SEO? Do you know how to create a good website? Can you write?
      Amanda is dead on.

      Find an area that you can specialize in - graphics, article writing, installing wordpress for people - whatever it is. If you can start with a service you can jumpstart things while you build your business.

      If you'll learn one thing and focus on it - even something simple like mastering Aweber, for example - then you can offer a local service and help your local businesses get Aweber setup, etc... If you can tie it in with hosting and take advantage of $100+ hosting cpa deals for new signups, even better. If you really think through it, you'll find that you can present a "package" of two or three services that all have monthly backends on them for you - like Aweber affiliate, hosting CPA offer and a shopping cart with recurring monthly affiliate.

      Now, I'm not suggesting these exact items - just an illustration here...

      After you find your specialty, zero in on it and work it for all it's worth. What I mean by that is create a list around it, create an info product (low priced) to teach others, then create a higher priced info product as an upsell, etc, etc... Work within your focus and get the most out of it you can as quickly as you can.

      It's very, very feasible... When I started out a few years back I started with services and was making five figure monthly earnings in month four. Sometimes "necessity truly is the mother of all invention".

      Good luck...

      BTW, the worst thing you can do is try to learn *everything* and end up *doing* nothing. Pick something you have a natural tendency and aptitude for and focus on that...

      Hope that helps...
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  • Profile picture of the author Manuelcrc
    Hi Anthony,

    Sorry about the layoff, but maybe it's all for good.
    It could indeed be indeed overwhelming when you're just starting out but if you keep your head down and focus you could indeed get something out of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author ciel
    Hey welcome to the IM world,

    Overwhelming, hmmm it is definitely but before I tell you ways to make money online, I must tell you that whatever way you choose, stick to it, work hard for it, have patience, it will pay off. Take this as serious as a business & if you will follow a proven plan of making money online, you will make it for sure.

    If I am going to write down ways to make money online then there are plenty but just to mention a few:

    Content Websites, Product Creation, Website Flipping, Affiliate Marketing, Membership Sites, Offline Marketing / Consulting, PPC Marketing, List Building, Network Marketing & many more.

    But I would suggest you (any newbie) to start with affiliate marketing - the fastest way to make money online. All you need to do is promote a link & get paid for every sale. This may sound easy but it also requires a lot of work (which you shouldn't be afraid of doing). You need to find good & legitimate ways of promoting your affiliate link. You can either setup a review site for the product you are promoting or a blog related to the niche of the affiliate product. Then promote that site or blog using these website traffic generation methods. And you should start making money

    This is just the one way, the way I think will work for you. There are many warriors who can give you better advice, have a look at them all & once you start, never look back.

    Success will find its own way to you. All the very best. Hope this helped.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    IM isn't really a great way to make money if you're desperate. It's a rather slow, deliberate process, much like building a real-life business. You might find it difficult to scale up your operation if you're using most of your income to just sustain your lifestyle.

    It's better to have a part time or full time job and do IM on the side until it's able to sustain itself and you with profits. That's just my opinion, though.

    Either way, good luck.

    - You could offer services, but you'll make more respectable money vs time put in with a real job.
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  • Profile picture of the author 0mlm
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    Well if you do not want to spend a dime and do affiliate marketing than u must go for 0mlm bcos it is 100% free for ever & it is going to launch on 4th july 2011 before that u can build your downline and than you will need to work on promoting ur niche site.

    And If you hv any more question you can skype me on omlmdotcom
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  • Profile picture of the author GoogleWarrior
    WARNING: You will not make money doing internet marketing....
    There is a 1 in 1000000 chance that you will be able to make more money than a full time job would give you.
    Everybody likes to imagine that it is so easy....
    but the truth is that only the Best in the Industry are making money. And most of the people making money are the people selling products on How to Make Money Online.
    And then when you buy the book... you figure out that the book does not help you make any money online.

    My advice is...
    instead of spending your time doing Internet Marketing... you should be out trying to get a new job. And after you have a good job... then do IM in your time after work. But don't do IM full time...
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    • Profile picture of the author scrofford
      Originally Posted by GoogleWarrior View Post

      WARNING: You will not make money doing internet marketing....
      There is a 1 in 1000000 chance that you will be able to make more money than a full time job would give you.
      Everybody likes to imagine that it is so easy....
      but the truth is that only the Best in the Industry are making money. And most of the people making money are the people selling products on How to Make Money Online.
      Well first of all, I would really like to see where you got the statistics on 1 in 1000000 chance that someone will make money online, and second where do you get that only the people making money are those people selling products on How to Make Money Online.

      To be honest and blunt, you have NO idea of what you are talking about. People make money everyday in not only the MMO market but thousands of others. I think you - no I know you are talking out your a** and your post wasn't helpful to the OP at all.

      And if you really don't think you can make any money online, what's with this thread that you started? So you must think there is a way to make money online.

      But please tell us all where you get your statistics and numbers! We would all be interested to know!
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Originally Posted by scrofford View Post

        ...But please tell us all where you get your statistics and numbers! We would all be interested to know!
        It's a simple statistical extrapolation from the evaluation of the constant that 1 in a 100 online marketers make money. There are 10,000 times more marketers offline not making money online out of every statistical sample of 10,000,000 who tried. This is a fundamental constant from Murphy's law, which states unequivocalably: "If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something." (Citation: Truism)
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        • Profile picture of the author scrofford
          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          It's a simple statistical extrapolation from the evaluation of the constant that 1 in a 100 online marketers make money. There are 10,000 times more marketers offline not making money online out of every 10,000,000 who tried. This is a fundamental constant from Murphy's law, which states unequivocalably: "If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something."
          Exactly. But there really aren't any real hard facts to back this up. And the way it was put in the post above was really like it was just being parroted. I just think that saying something like that is very unhelpful and silly.

          True more people don't make money than who do online, but why tell someone that they won't make any money online? Especially when the person who said that really believes he can in another thread?
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          • Profile picture of the author ciel
            Originally Posted by scrofford View Post

            Exactly. But there really aren't any real hard facts to back this up. And the way it was put in the post above was really like it was just being parroted. I just think that saying something like that is very unhelpful and silly.

            True more people don't make money than who do online, but why tell someone that they won't make any money online? Especially when the person who said that really believes he can in another thread?
            You just can't predict anything anywhere, the best thing you can do is take action & see the result. In this case, all we need is to add value to the OP & nothing else.

            Just my thoughts

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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            Originally Posted by scrofford View Post

            Exactly. But there really aren't any real hard facts to back this up. And the way it was put in the post above was really like it was just being parroted. I just think that saying something like that is very unhelpful and silly....
            LOL! This is termed a "figure of speech" without any real statistical data. All he meant it's a long shot.

            What really has a 1 in a million chance?
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    • Profile picture of the author yssync
      Originally Posted by GoogleWarrior View Post

      WARNING: You will not make money doing internet marketing....
      There is a 1 in 1000000 chance that you will be able to make more money than a full time job would give you.
      Everybody likes to imagine that it is so easy....
      but the truth is that only the Best in the Industry are making money. And most of the people making money are the people selling products on How to Make Money Online.
      And then when you buy the book... you figure out that the book does not help you make any money online.

      My advice is...
      instead of spending your time doing Internet Marketing... you should be out trying to get a new job. And after you have a good job... then do IM in your time after work. But don't do IM full time...
      Well I've been doing IM for 3 months now... if this is true, I would be devastated!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author MaryB
    I wish you all the best!

    I just wanted to recommend to you Pat Flynn's Smart Passive Income blog. Pat was laid off his job a little more than a year ago (?) and has built an incredible online business since then. Pat is so transparent and monthly posts how much he has made and the sources of the money.

    He has many different streams of income and offers help in a lot of different online topics. I have learned so much from him and have read/listened to as much of his blog and podcasts as possible.

    Soak up as much wisdom as you can. Pat's blog is a great place to begin.
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    • Profile picture of the author genhorrall
      Hi Aubaine,

      Welcome to the forum. I am sorry to hear about the job. And do not let the pessimist drive you away. :p to all the grouchies out there.

      IM can be an amazing and fulfilling way to create the life that you want.

      I see that you need to start making money soon. I would start by investing in an ad in the Warrior for hire thread. I would put out an ad for writing articles.

      Some great ones that I have seen today was a guy that was doing re-writes for something like $2 an article. It was not great money, but it only took him a couple of days to do 15 articles. He was doing them in his spare time. You might be able to do more than that in a day. If you could do that for a week or so you would get a feel for how an article is supposed to be written. Plus you you usually do not have to do research to do a re-write.

      Then I would take part of that and invest in another ad. 10 articles for $50. Something to the tune of I will write 10 articles 500 words for $50. Write a sample article in the post. And have a pay pal account button in the add or at least a paypal account so people can pay you when you start accepting work. That might not make huge amounts of bank, but it will get you into the working side of IM. You can learn a lot from article writing.

      During all this I would take my off time to study SEO. Buy a good product if you have the money to invest. Learn the skill well. That could be your next service to offer.

      Also I would work on the idea of selling what you know about IT stuff with the Ipad and such like was suggested earlier. I would stick with making videos. Trying to teach an ol' guy how to work his vcr through writing has proven not to work. LOL. Just kidding, but I think video would make a more effective platform for that service and there are so many ways to do it. Offer it as a service. Heck you could even offer it as a house call for those in New York if you felt like it. Just an idea.

      Start with services or freelancing though, I do believe that will make you the most money to start. I would also look at elancer, gurus for hire (I think it is), and o desk, they may have IT issues that you could easily solve or help others with.
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      • Profile picture of the author Aubaine
        @genhorrall

        Hi Aubaine,

        Welcome to the forum. I am sorry to hear about the job. And do not let the pessimist drive you away. :p to all the grouchies out there.

        IM can be an amazing and fulfilling way to create the life that you want.

        I see that you need to start making money soon. I would start by investing in an ad in the Warrior for hire thread. I would put out an ad for writing articles.

        Some great ones that I have seen today was a guy that was doing re-writes for something like $2 an article. It was not great money, but it only took him a couple of days to do 15 articles. He was doing them in his spare time. You might be able to do more than that in a day. If you could do that for a week or so you would get a feel for how an article is supposed to be written. Plus you you usually do not have to do research to do a re-write.

        Then I would take part of that and invest in another ad. 10 articles for $50. Something to the tune of I will write 10 articles 500 words for $50. Write a sample article in the post. And have a pay pal account button in the add or at least a paypal account so people can pay you when you start accepting work. That might not make huge amounts of bank, but it will get you into the working side of IM. You can learn a lot from article writing.
        This sounds like it is right up my alley, I will be posting an ad tomorrow in "warriors for hire" offering some re-writing services for extremely cheap, just to mainly learn and get to know some of your great folks.

        During all this I would take my off time to study SEO. Buy a good product if you have the money to invest. Learn the skill well. That could be your next service to offer.
        Do you have a suggestion for an SEO product that is worth the money?

        Also I would work on the idea of selling what you know about IT stuff with the Ipad and such like was suggested earlier. I would stick with making videos. Trying to teach an ol' guy how to work his vcr through writing has proven not to work. LOL. Just kidding, but I think video would make a more effective platform for that service and there are so many ways to do it. Offer it as a service. Heck you could even offer it as a house call for those in New York if you felt like it. Just an idea.
        I love the idea of writing up a little product for the iPad's or iPhone's. I believe that I could post screen shots instead of video, as I don't know if I'm going to be able to edit the videos. But I actually created many "How To" documents for both the iPhone and iPad, along with creating and altering screen shots to make them relevant and useful.

        Start with services or freelancing though, I do believe that will make you the most money to start. I would also look at elancer, gurus for hire (I think it is), and o desk, they may have IT issues that you could easily solve or help others with.
        Are these all websites or blogs or? I'll be sure to google them tomorrow, as I have made note in my little IM pad. :] Thank you!
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    • Profile picture of the author Aubaine
      @MaryB

      I wish you all the best! Thank you!

      I just wanted to recommend to you Pat Flynn's Smart Passive Income blog. Pat was laid off his job a little more than a year ago (?) and has built an incredible online business since then. Pat is so transparent and monthly posts how much he has made and the sources of the money.

      He has many different streams of income and offers help in a lot of different online topics. I have learned so much from him and have read/listened to as much of his blog and podcasts as possible.

      Soak up as much wisdom as you can. Pat's blog is a great place to begin.
      I have actually seen Pat's name brought up numerous times in different threads here on WF - I will certainly look into his blog tomorrow morning. Thank you for the advice!
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      • Profile picture of the author astauffer
        An online business can take a while to get started. If you are any good at writing you can earn some okay money right away through freelance writing. There a freelance writing site that lets you pick your own jobs from a writing board. The site is called myams.net and it is free to join. The money is not awesome and it won't replace an income, but it is a good start.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aubaine
    @JamesGw and GoogleWarrior

    To be blunt, I've only had one real corporate job in my entire life. I have made money by my own sheer drive and intelligence, all with start ups or investing, or what have you. All I need is a direction. I WILL make money here if I choose to, it's not a question of how or where, it's WHEN. However, thank you for your input.
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  • Profile picture of the author Giftys
    Originally Posted by Aubaine View Post


    How do I choose one?
    Anthony, I'm a proponent of finding something that you're very passionate about. I got into the music niche as I'm a musician. The passion for the industry helped me work harder than many because I was so incredibly passionate about it. Examine your strengths and combine that with your passion to help you find the right niche for you. Be careful with some of the advice from people that say do this thing or that thing. They mean well but ultimately you need to pick what you're good at. You should know this instinctively. Article writing may not be your thing. But maybe building websites is. Or visa versa... and so on.

    Hope this helps a bit. Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Aubaine
      @Giftys

      Anthony, I'm a proponent of finding something that you're very passionate about. I got into the music niche as I'm a musician. The passion for the industry helped me work harder than many because I was so incredibly passionate about it. Examine your strengths and combine that with your passion to help you find the right niche for you. Be careful with some of the advice from people that say do this thing or that thing. They mean well but ultimately you need to pick what you're good at. You should know this instinctively. Article writing may not be your thing. But maybe building websites is. Or visa versa... and so on.

      Hope this helps a bit. Good luck!
      I could not agree more! Luckily, I've found much of this advice to spark some interest in me I did not realize would be relevant in the IM world, such as the iPhone/iPad articles, and hopefully some help building up an SEO brand, which are both things I can absolutely see myself succeeding in.
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  • Profile picture of the author Boston Joe
    Learn as much as you can but be sure to take action. You will learn more by gaining experience than you will from any product that you can buy, generally speaking.

    Find what works and scale it up, if you are looking for a sure and steady income I would look into freelance article writing or whatever service you think you can provide.
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  • Profile picture of the author efwebm
    The main revenues I see are...

    SEO (build a site. Get it ranked. Sell something on it)
    PPC/CPV
    Product Creation
    Facebook/Twitter
    Youtube
    CL
    Freelance

    There may be a few other big ones, and then a bunch of smaller ones that are less long-term. Some of the above are not so long term either (they could go away tomorrow if FB/Twitter/CL decide to change a few things).

    But the important thing is to pick ONE and master the heck out of it. Don't start SEO and buiding sites/backlinking, and then decide to try CL one weekend because someone wrote a WSO about a product that said it was easy. None of it is ever easy, and you will never succeed in any of them if you don't stick with it. Pick one and just avoid everything else that doesn't build on it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aubaine
    Thank you to everyone that has made suggestions and posted opinions, definitely going to start writing freelance articles (if anyone wants a free tester, inbox me!) And also work on an iPad/iPhone product. Any more help or suggestions for those two avenues would be greatly appreciated!
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  • Profile picture of the author jrodriguez315
    Anthony,

    I can SO relate to your story. I was let go last October from my corporate job of 30+ years as well. I have been slowly learning the ropes with help from many of the great people here at the warrior forum. The one piece of advice I can give you is to FOCUS. There are too many people offering way too many ways to make money online. You need to find one and work it till it works. Don't be a grasshopper hopping from strategy to strategy because that's a wonderful way to waste a lot of time and make no money. I know, I've been there. There is a wonderful free resource outside of this site called the 30 Day Challenge which is run by Ed Dale. You might want to sign up for it. You will learn quite a lot. Between that and the people here at the warrior forum, you have a good chance to make some money online. Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Claire Sharp
    Hi Anthony,

    Sorry for the laid off. But don't be sad for IM is open and giving you a chance to know and make money. Now, all you have to do is find someone who is willing to help you on where to start at IM and what to do. By that, you know and you can start at IM.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jake Gray
    Anthony, you are more then correct about the many ways
    there are that enable you to make money online. At the end
    of the day, you need to find one that interests you. So, what
    do you think that will be? Just for the sake of an example,
    there are things such as:

    - Affiliate Marketing
    - Product Creation
    - Offline Marketing
    - Copywriting

    So, instead of trying to cram a bunch of information in your head, just
    find a topic, read a little on it and see if it interests you. If it does, go ahead
    and read some of the content related to that subject. Also, you don't need
    to buy products in order to learn valuable information. Do some research and
    you'll be saving a lot of money.
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  • Profile picture of the author AdwordsMogul
    If I read what you said correctly you already know some business owners. If that's the case it's easy. Learn about the benefits of SEO, web design, etc. and start approaching them immediately. Use you experience and credibility as a leverage point. Then find good providers and let them do the work. You'll make your money on the difference. In the meantime you can learn whatever skill you want.
    Don't get caught up in the hype. If you want to make real money don't try to start from scratch.
    As far as MLM is concerned it's a dangerous animal.
    If you want to win you have to see how they're playing you - if you by what they teach you, you'll lose.
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    • Profile picture of the author Aubaine
      I like the idea of SEO and web design, but I don't really think I'm capable to becoming skilled enough at the web design part to make a living off that. I was thinking list creation and affiliate marketing, but I am still trying to find ways to create an effective list (buying them certainly isn't smart, as I recently found out the hard way) Any suggestions?
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      • Profile picture of the author PatriciaS
        Originally Posted by Aubaine View Post

        I like the idea of SEO and web design, but I don't really think I'm capable to becoming skilled enough at the web design part to make a living off that. I was thinking list creation and affiliate marketing, but I am still trying to find ways to create an effective list (buying them certainly isn't smart, as I recently found out the hard way) Any suggestions?
        Think again about the web design issue. These days WordPress is used as the Content Management System for all kinds of websites, and that's only going to grow, most likely. And the really cool thing about WP websites is that with just a bit of instruction the small business owner (or would be internet marketer) can take charge of them after they're built -- or, if they can afford a webmaster, they can continue to let you manage it for them. OR, if your html and css skills are good enough -- or can get good enough -- you can build WP themes to sell.

        If the idea appeals to you, by all means don't close the door on it before you investigate what could be done!!
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        • Profile picture of the author Aubaine
          Thank you for all the advice. I have been reading into product creation and writing reviews about iPads and iPhones. Pretty much just reading about a few different products that sound appealing.

          Also, I was laid off, I didn't quit my job cushy corporate job. So moving full time to IM and living off savings and credit wasn't an option. I'm very confident I'll make money here, I can turn a dime into a dollar, always have been. I just want a solid direction to run in I suppose.
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        • Profile picture of the author BDubC
          Well I have learned to stay with what your are familiar with, something you could talk about for hours, something you feel you could really help someone with.

          This will help with producing content on websites, landing pages, traffic generating (articles, videos, forums, answers...) without having to spend time to do a lot of research. This will also help build solid relationships which is key.

          Once your sure what your niche would be start creating a website, and try to have a way of building a contact list. (very very important)

          Choose what ever is most comfortable with how you to bring in traffic, writing articles and making videos, whatever is best for you. As far as SEO goes I would just make sure I implement all the on-site basics on my sites and web 2.0 that are recieving traffic. (I would not stress over too much off-site SEO quite yet, putting time into this all depends on your competition.)

          You can find products anywhere or even provide services, you will actually start to learn what best to make profit off of after building your relationships, it will all start really rolling there.

          I will tell you this. You MUST put many hours into this. treat it EXACTLY like a 9 to 5. And allow yourself to work overtime. Take breaks and take lunches, have a daily schedule.

          And I'm sorry money will not come quickly at all, like others said, do services to get you by on bills, but for the long term I would start with the things I mentioned above.

          Dont worry if you put 8 hours a day into your work you will get something out of it, I just hope its more money than lessons.
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    Build a list...

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    Become one of those 'must-have' affiliates.
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    First off welcome Anthony, you are right affiliate marketing can look overwhelming at first glance, so little steps, if you can find out something that you would be interested in promoting be it a product or service offered by the likes of Clickbank, Amazon, CJ e.t.c from the vast plethora of options available, you can create a free Wordpress or Blogger blog, or ideally do some keyword research and create a site with the name of the product in the domain name, called an EMD (Exact Match Domain), and fill it with content/posts basically giving your review of the product or service, Amazon and a few other sites may allow you to join their affiliate program without necessarily having content on your site, but it is good to have content on your site as other affiliate networks may be a little more strict, those are basic steps, and other ideas will start to flow once you get your feet on the ground
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    • Profile picture of the author shmeeko69
      The fact that you've found this forum Anthony is a huge step in the right direction and the advice you get from some of the folk on here is excellent.

      I think it's important to focus on something that you have a passion for, as like working for an employer, if you don't like the work then you'll not enjoy the business and you'll want to take shortcuts and we know what happens there!

      Depending on your budget find and experience start by looking at keywords using the free Google keyword tool and look for phrases that have low competition and a healthy monthly search rate and build each campaign around that. If you get the first part right then, the rest will be so much more straightforward.

      Bets of Luck

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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Gee thats funny. I remember a thread on here where a lot of members said "Dont quit your job" :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
      Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

      Gee thats funny. I remember a thread on here where a lot of members said "Dont quit your job" :rolleyes:
      Mate..99% of people fail in this business..telling them to not quit their job until making a regular income online is smart advice.

      I dont care if you managed to make it (congrats) but most people wont, and as someone who has been unemployed and hoping I'd be able to make it online at the time, I wouldnt wish that amount of stress and depression on anyone else.
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  • Profile picture of the author christina ward
    Hi Anthony, I understand how you feel, I lost my job last year and now just starting online myself and I am like you don't know what to do next, which way to go. There are so many things I can do on here but don't know where to start or which one makes good money. I hope you all the best and if you figure it out please let me know and I will do the same.

    Thanks
    Christina
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  • Profile picture of the author sloanjim
    Focus,focus.focus on one area you can easily make $100k+ I am a lazy g**. I want to make a good living with a slittle work as possible. If you want to work 90+ hours week for $250k+ knock your-self out.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    It really depends on what your skills and interests are. If you've read enough of the forum you probably know that there are a lot of ways to make money. You've got to be the one who decides which way to go. There's no one size fits all blueprint.
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    • Profile picture of the author marybchaveza
      I was laid of last year and started IM. Find a business model you want to use to make money online and stick with it. There are a lot of ways to make money online but you can only do one no all of them.
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  • Profile picture of the author pcpupil
    @ Auibaine
    Go to post #12 and think about what Kindsvator said.
    I am on and been on his list for a while.

    Come up with at least to start some simple reports about the things mentioned.
    Probably a one page but no longer than 2 as a how to do something to fix something.

    After your done,we will figure a price,here on the forum of course with help.
    Then you can sell as a wso,and i will be one of your first affilliates to sell your product.

    I will put up a website and use Rap,or 7 dollar script.We can split the sales and they will go into our ppal accounts right away.

    I will look into some plr and see if maybe you could rewrite it better,same thing as basiclly your own.It will just help put your product out there,and i will purchase the product if possible.

    email or pm me,or whatever you can do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg DiVilbiss
    Welcome to the forum! The biggest thing that slowed me down was purchasing to many programs. I would recommend finding someone you trust and sticking with it. Do not get blinded by all of the offers out there. Just keep moving and make sure you take action.
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnny Optimo
    I know you're willing to work hard, most people have that mentality when they're getting into IM.

    My warning to you is that hard work alone is not enough to succeed in this industry, you need to have the right knowledge as well.

    You need to learn the basics, HTML/CSS and SEO at the very least as well as some content management systems. You should get good at this stuff before you try to even make $100 in IM because otherwise you'll just get frustrated and burn out.

    The other good thing about learning web dev skills is that it opens you up to a lot more real-world employment opportunities, and also the opportunity to start your own dev business.

    So that's my recommendation - first work hard learning (and I'm not talking WSO eBooks), then work hard implementing. The learning process could take a month or two if you're very dedicated and study/practice every day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Easy Marketer
    There are too many negative posts on Warrior so I just listen to the ones who know what they are talking about. My sites are growing just on free advertising. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    Originally Posted by Aubaine View Post

    Hello all,

    First, I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Anthony and I recently was laid off by a major corporate company based in the US.

    I've been reading about IM for a while now, and to be honest I'm a bit overwhelmed. There are so many avenues to choose from, so many niches, so many ways to make a living online.

    How do I choose one? What would be the simplest thing to start with while I learn and grow within this industry? I know you all probably hear this a lot, but I truly have no idea which direction I should head down.

    I've read about blogging, AdSense, SEO, CPA, ran a small eBay business for a while also, but that fell by the way side when work got crazy.

    But now I'm laid off, and desperate to get something going for myself. I'm willing to try anything and am 100% driven to work hard now and play later.

    I've only been on the forum a few days, and have noticed how extremely helpful everyone is here, so I figured I'd put a post up for assistance and introduce myself, and just dive right in and embrace this great tool! ... Even if I look massively noob-ish :]

    I hope to become a part of this community and get to know many of you!

    Thank you for your time, and I eagerly await some feedback.

    Anthony,

    I sent you 2 PM's with a few things... Hope it finds you well.

    Mike Hill
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  • Profile picture of the author GetMoreTraffic
    Plenty of good information for you in this forum, especially in the WSOs...
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  • Profile picture of the author Aubaine
    Thank you for the advice, I've started working on my business model, and also thank you to those that have contacted me directly to work with me! Looking forward to showing my first WSO.
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