Let's talk about $1 trial periods

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I'd love to hear some opinions about these, especially from people selling subscriptions but also from those on the purchasing side. Do you feel that they are an absolute necessity now? Has anyone split-tested trial periods with no trial periods? Any other thoughts, ideas, or discussion would be welcome.

We have a major article marketing product that we'll be launching in February and are currently discussing whether to offer a $1 trial.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
    I'd also like to find out what Refund rates look like.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Ambrose
    Refund rates at $1!? Are ya kidding me? I would refund them through paypal with a personal message that simply read "LOL"
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    • Profile picture of the author Wide
      Originally Posted by mm365 View Post

      Refund rates at $1!? Are ya kidding me? I would refund them through paypal with a personal message that simply read "LOL"
      You would actually be surprised how many request a $1 refund ><
      I get anywhere from 5-10 per day of those.

      Guess it's not the amount, but they hole idea of paying for something and don't get what they expect.

      I run a quite popular website and some of my users requested a "Premium version" which they pay a small fee to use. So I added it, no way in h*** I would pay for that myself, but if they want to pay for it, then fine.

      Guess that's why I get so many charge-backs.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lance K
    Originally Posted by Ben Roy View Post

    We have a major article marketing product that we'll be launching in February and are currently discussing whether to offer a $1 trial.
    What kind of product is it? Is there a continuity element to it or is it a one time purchase? Is it software?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ben Roy
      Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

      What kind of product is it? Is there a continuity element to it or is it a one time purchase? Is it software?
      It is software, but accessed via a subcription rather than a one time payment.
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      • Profile picture of the author Lance K
        Originally Posted by Ben Roy View Post

        It is software, but accessed via a subcription rather than a one time payment.
        Cool. But it is something you can disable after the trial period or any time after they cancel?

        Might as well test a trial then. Send them a notice the day before the trial period is up and you intend to charge them. Also, this is a good time to give them a reason to stay subscribed. You can describe planne updates, improved features, bonus material, etc. Try not to give away all the details though. Just enough to make them curious enough to stay on.
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  • Profile picture of the author carmene
    I've seen some the big gurus give away something for the shipping cost only, then offer the free membership for a month after which buyer would be charged the regular membership subscription.

    This happened to me once and I didn't realize that I was paying something like $29 a month for a whole year and there were no refunds. (I didn't get mad because the information was actually useful to me).

    I think this is what they're hoping for when they do this but as I said, if the information is good, many will stay subscribed.

    Carmen


    Originally Posted by Ben Roy View Post

    I'd love to hear some opinions about these, especially from people selling subscriptions but also from those on the purchasing side. Do you feel that they are an absolute necessity now? Has anyone split-tested trial periods with no trial periods? Any other thoughts, ideas, or discussion would be welcome.

    We have a major article marketing product that we'll be launching in February and are currently discussing whether to offer a $1 trial.
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  • Profile picture of the author severt
    Exactly what I want to know.

    Example: Selling a software product that cost 400 bucks.

    Sell it for 1 dollar, and claim 399 after 1 month.
    OR claim 400 bucks immideately with a refund period of 30 days.

    Problem of scenario 1 is that people "maybe" don't have the 399 cash available after 30 days. You'll never know!

    Experience here?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ken Preuss
      Originally Posted by severt View Post

      Exactly what I want to know.

      Example: Selling a software product that cost 400 bucks.

      Sell it for 1 dollar, and claim 399 after 1 month.
      OR claim 400 bucks immideately with a refund period of 30 days.

      Problem of scenario 1 is that people "maybe" don't have the 399 cash available after 30 days. You'll never know!

      Experience here?
      I've always had a programmer set this up for me. However when it's done properly I'm pretty sure that when the initial $1 purchase is made an authorization is also done on the credit card to 1) make sure $399 is available and 2) that amount is "held" on the card to make sure it is still available in 30 days.

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    • Profile picture of the author imaddict
      Originally Posted by severt View Post

      Exactly what I want to know.

      Example: Selling a software product that cost 400 bucks.

      Sell it for 1 dollar, and claim 399 after 1 month.
      OR claim 400 bucks immideately with a refund period of 30 days.

      Problem of scenario 1 is that people "maybe" don't have the 399 cash available after 30 days. You'll never know!

      Experience here?
      I've tested this (twice) and it's been a NIGHTMARE on digital products. Why? About 1/3 of the credit cards were declined 30 days later. The conversion rate was much higher (don't have stats on hand) but the net income after declines and refunds was much less than going for the straight sale.

      I believe these attract the wrong crowd (at least in my case). However, I must note that for physical products this has worked wonders (especially on backends). My theory regarding this is that with digital products you can't really prove that a product was delivered. Sure, you can keep track of IPs, server logs, and the rest but still, it's an 'ify' situation.

      On the other hand, with physical products you have proof of delivery and can actually do something about someone not paying up. I think that's what makes the difference and scammers take advantage of this fact and get stuff for a buck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ldimilo
    direct mail marketers and informercial marketers have been doing it for years. I imagine that the refund rate is pretty low coming out of the gate although you will have more unhappy people who didn't realize the terms possibly attacking you when you start actually charging them.
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  • Profile picture of the author SteveAC
    The thing to do is to only sign up for these offers using a prepaid credit card such as green dot. Put $1 or the cost of shipping on the card. If after your trial you decided that you want the product/service then put the appropriate amount of money onto your card. Carmene (read above post) got lucky, but the method I just described protects you so you don't need to rely on luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    Originally Posted by Ben Roy View Post

    I'd love to hear some opinions about these, especially from people selling subscriptions but also from those on the purchasing side. Do you feel that they are an absolute necessity now? Has anyone split-tested trial periods with no trial periods? Any other thoughts, ideas, or discussion would be welcome.

    We have a major article marketing product that we'll be launching in February and are currently discussing whether to offer a $1 trial.
    The trial period method beats hands down, no doubt about it. It's a small
    hurdle to jump over and I've found that those who don't go beyond the
    trial period would have asked for a refund in the first place.

    For example at

    Ray L. Edwards Copywriting Coaching and Mentoring Program

    I've used a $2.95-7 day trial to give each customer an opportunity to see
    what they get. Those who go beyond the trial period usually stay
    beyond the first month (average 6-12 months) meaning that the
    trial did help them to make up their minds. Yet at the same time those
    who got in at the $2.95 feel that they got more value than they paid
    for. (I've NEVER anyone request a refund for the $2.95.)

    The bottom line is that the trial period increases sales.

    -Ray L.,
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  • Profile picture of the author Amber Jalink
    I was talking with Mike Glaspie about this a few months ago (From bannersgomlm fame).

    He said it works *really* well. I've tried it a few times and it wasn't bad either (but just minor testing).

    One thing I will say:

    In order to keep yourself from being bashed - DO NOT hide in the fine print the monthly cost. At the very least, keep it clear that people will be charged it if they continue after x days.

    That person Carmen mentioned (actually a few marketers did this) were seen as scammers because people didn't see any notice that they were to be charged repeatedly.

    I understand there were a lot of chargebacks - and that is something people would win. To keep refund/frustration points down, make sure people know that there will be a charge if they don't cancel.

    Frank Kern did that recently - just a shipping cost, then if you didn't cancel or return, you then after x days started paying x $ a month. (I think it was actually really high - $97 a month! - high for many people anyway).

    Just my thoughts/experiences.

    Amber
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    • Profile picture of the author psresearch
      Originally Posted by dimeco View Post

      I was talking with Mike Glaspie about this a few months ago (From bannersgomlm fame).

      He said it works *really* well. I've tried it a few times and it wasn't bad either (but just minor testing).

      One thing I will say:

      In order to keep yourself from being bashed - DO NOT hide in the fine print the monthly cost. At the very least, keep it clear that people will be charged it if they continue after x days.
      Here's another "minor" issue with hiding these type of terms that includes potentially huge fines from the FTC that you can read about in this warrior discussion
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Fletcher
    I offer a $1 trial on Easy Backlinker and its proved very successful. That combined with pretty decent sales copy has resulted in a 3-5% of people taking a trial (depending on traffic quality).

    Since is a good service I'm seeing very good retention rates as well and so far zero refunds of the $1, even if people cancel.

    All told I'm very happy I'm offering a $1 trial.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    Trials have been going on for many years and many have used them. I will be going with a trial period with one of my sites come the 1st.

    Thinking of doing $2 for 15 days or something similar...

    They do work and work very good to your advantage.

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    • Profile picture of the author kurt naulaerts
      You're selling a membership.

      If you give subscribers a good reason to stay after 1st month (extremely important!) then a 30 day trial will do wonders!

      I tried myself and had excellent results. There will always be people who cancel but it's a minority.

      Good luck,

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      • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
        I am not split testing yet, but currently do a $1 Trial for 7 days

        % of people that make that first payment after the 7 days is about 85%.

        My numbers are a little skewed this month I guess due to the holidays, but that's what
        it's been since I switched to this model early November.

        I'm split testing price after the 7 day trial, but not actual price or terms of the trial itself

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  • Profile picture of the author TomGuo
    It seems that a $1 trial offer is better than a 30 day money back guarantee. I'm considering to offer a $1 trial on my membership site, hope it works well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Ambrose
    I have always offered a free 2 week trial.

    Which brings the question to this thread - $1 trial or free trial?

    Has anyone tried both?

    What converts more?
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    • Profile picture of the author BizBooks
      I would join up for a $400 a month site with a 30 day trial at $1 waaaaay faster then i would sign up for a $400 a month membership site (or even a $50 a month site!)
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  • Profile picture of the author THK
    Ben
    $1 trial will be perfect for your product, I think. Conversion will be much higher. Anyone remotely interested in the software is more likely to give it a shot without much hesitation. Retention ofcourse depends on how it delivers (which I believe will be good).

    People who take advantage of (read "steal")this type of offers should not bother you because there is nothing to steal. They cancel, they lose. I think you will do realy well with a trial offer.

    Tanvir
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  • Profile picture of the author Lee McIntyre
    I sell a $1 trial that leads to a $97 continuity program, and the results have been astounding. It's a MUCH easier sale to offer the opportunity to grab your content for an initial $1 charge than it is for a $97 charge.

    When dealing with continuity it's important to understand that your profits will be a function of TRAFFIC + CONVERSION + RETENTION. Many people running a continuity program concentrate effort on traffic and conversion, while neglecting retention.

    With our $1 trial about 35% of our members cancel before the first payment of $97.

    Having a $1 trial increases our front end conversion by a factor of 3. You don't have to be a maths genius to understand why (in our market) using a trial offer makes complete sense.

    The key is to test though, and your own results will of course vary. But for this particular offer having a $1 trial has been a revelation for us.

    I hope this helps!

    Lee McIntyre
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