How to work on a live wordpress site - test site etc

by dalereardon 20 replies
Hi,

I am currently building a wordpress site - a daily deals type website - Discount Lovers Tasmania - Enjoy Tasmanian quality products and services at a huge discount > Discount Lovers Tasmania – Enjoy Tasmanian quality products and services at a huge discount

Once the site goes active you can't work on the site and have changes corrupt the site while it is being used.

Is there anyway with wordpress to have a dummy test site and make the changes you want on that site and then once satisfied swap the sites over somehow?

I did some Googling and seems a lot of people are wanting the same thing but no answers to be found.

Some changes will involve changing menus, altering the CSS, etc - all of which you don't want to do on a live site until you are satisfied with the changes.

Thanks,

Dale.
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  • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
    I do all my development work either on a test sub domain (search engines blocked) or on a test domain - a real domain that I have just for test and development work.

    I almost always develop my client sites on a test sub domain until they are happy - especially if they have an existing website. Something like www. myowndomain. com/clientname
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  • Profile picture of the author Andre Lavell
    Firefox has an addon called Firebug that'll let you play around with the
    CSS without effecting your site.

    If you want to change the theme, or theme options and menus,
    WordPress › Theme Test Drive « WordPress Plugins does a good job.
    No one can see the changes but you.
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    • Profile picture of the author dalereardon
      [QUOTE=Andre Lavell;4008372]Firefox has an addon called Firebug that'll let you play around with the
      CSS without effecting your site.

      If you want to change the theme, or theme options and menus,
      WordPress › Theme Test Drive « WordPress Plugins does a good job.



      Thanks for that plugin - it does a terrific job and just what was after.

      Dale.
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  • Profile picture of the author dalereardon
    Hi,

    If you work on a test site as you suggest how do you manage to move it over once you are happy.

    In the meantime the main site has been getting more content, more visitor comments, more deals and purchases which creates data in the database in my site?

    Can't do a complete replace of the original site with the test site or will lose everything that has happened since begun testing.

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    • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
      Originally Posted by dalereardon View Post

      Hi,

      If you work on a test site as you suggest how do you manage to move it over once you are happy.

      In the meantime the main site has been getting more content, more visitor comments, more deals and purchases which creates data in the database in my site?

      Can't do a complete replace of the original site with the test site or will lose everything that has happened since begun testing.

      Dale.
      We have here two possible scenarios: either you have no idea how WordPress works... or I don't understand correctly your question (which is very likely).

      You mention messing around with CSS, menus and similar stuff related to the appearance of the blog. Everything related to the look is determined by the template files+style.css+graphics.


      Then next, you are worried about the content which is always stored in the MySQL database: posts, Pages, comments, settings.

      Since anybody can switch from one theme to another and the content still will be displayed = that means the content is independent from the design-look-theme.

      From the separation above a slight exception would be the new custom menu feature (most theme designers don't even know about it) which would store the custom menu settings - together with all the other settings - in the database.

      In simple terms: you can change the look ten times a day - the content still will be the same. Now the real question is: WHAT are you planning to mess around with on your test site/install? Look or content?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Baker
    I do all my testing on a local installation of Wordpress. Meaning, I install wordpress on my computer with the help of another program and once I am happy with it then upload it all to my hosting account to go live.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    The first thing I would be fixing is the stock image of the pig in the top left hand corner that is watermarked and obviously taken from a stock images site. You may still be in testing mode but you did just publish your website address in this thread which means you are now using that image illegally.
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    • Profile picture of the author Russell Hall
      I too must say that like Istvan I'm not sure exactly what your trying to achieve.

      Here's my contribution:

      1. You can install "Maintenance Mode" plugin that will allow you to work on the site with visual access to WP-admin and front as the administrator whilst displaying a splash screen to the public "maintenance mode,..back in XX hours"
      2. You can clone your site so you have 1 live site and the other being worked on somewhere else on your server on a subdomain. Once you're done with your amendments then empty your live site database tables and import the new ones from the "worked upon" site. You may need to upload any new images or better still just replace your uploads folder in the live site with that of those from the "worked upon" site.
      I've never had any real success with Xamp and found too many issues with file path errors so I just don't bother with it.

      Hope that helps,.... and best wishes with the new venture site!

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      • Profile picture of the author Ross Vegas
        +1 for some of the above mentions of XAMPP...

        As a semi-professional developer that has built a gazillion of these things, and programmed some cool theme engines as well, I use XAMPP almost every day.

        It is the best way to do it and see exactly how it's going to work. Not to mention save a ton of time in upload/test/ repeat ad nauseam.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    If all you are wanting to do is play around with the template files then just do them on a test blog and when you are happy with the look, drag those template files over to your LIVE blog and over-write the template files that are already there. Simple.
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  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    I use test drive
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  • Profile picture of the author coco28
    Install Wordpress on your PC - here is a link to how to do that:

    Installing WordPress Locally
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  • Profile picture of the author dalereardon
    Yes the image is being altered shortly. Just in the process of testing.

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  • Profile picture of the author ernest morse
    I install wordpress locally and use a combination of Xampp and firebug. Then I upload the finished changes through ftp to host.
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  • Profile picture of the author shermancox
    I used to make changes staight on my site...not a good idea...When I started making plugins I did an installation of XAMP...yeah you want to do that! Do a local installation and make your changes there...you can even save your site in subversion if you feel like it...

    Make a local copy...it is too easy to set up...go head on and do it...
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    • Profile picture of the author stanwhisky
      May I ask you one question? Does the deal site you created is using a wordpress plugin?
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  • Profile picture of the author dalereardon
    Hi,

    Yes I am using a wordpress plugin and theme. The site which sells them is at:

    http://groupbuyingsite.com/


    Sadly they don't have an affiliate program yet. Their support is fantastic too.

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