Overloaded With Info... Where to Start?

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Hey all!

My Question: With all of these different options, where is the best place for me to start?

I'm new to the IM world as of about three months ago. I originally thought I would try the Google Sniper approach. This idea, however, didn't turn out so well once I realized that it is nearly impossible to find keywords that come even close to meeting the requirements given in GS. Regardless, I've still been attempting the general approach while at the same time looking into other methods to perhaps combine with the overall idea of GS to make something that works well for me.

What I Have
  • Web hosting through Bluehost
  • A few domain names that may or may not be great keywords
  • A relatively small budget (I have about $600 to put toward my endeavors, realistically, I'd only like to spend $400)
  • Strong motivation and a promise to myself that I'm not going to give up until I start making a living online.
Will one of you amazingly nice people help me out? Give me an idea of where to start or perhaps give me a little apprenticeship? I'd be happy to exchange my services for your advice and/or assistance.

Thanks Guys!
Ed
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  • Profile picture of the author webapex
    Regularly add original quality content, yea you will have to spend time off site getting links too, but not until you have well over 10 pages of content. A young site has to keep paddling to maintain search ranking, ranking for subtantial established sites sticks better.
    Developing faster, better quality writing abilities may be as important as some technical skills. Since the last Google (Panda) update, unoriginal content is not as effective.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tonybuk
      Hi!

      Sounds a lot like me a few months ago!

      The answer is really in your post:

      I've still been attempting the general approach

      looking into other methods to perhaps combine

      A few domain names


      I was doing the same until it hit me square between the eyes that I was going nowhere trying to do everything at once.

      My suggestion would be to pick a niche/product and focus on getting up a website and driving traffic to that one site, then monetize (adsense,clickbank, Amazon etc.)
      Once you start making money, repeat and repeat again!

      TonyB
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      • Profile picture of the author EdFriedrich
        Originally Posted by Tonybuk View Post

        Hi!

        Sounds a lot like me a few months ago!

        The answer is really in your post:

        I've still been attempting the general approach

        looking into other methods to perhaps combine

        A few domain names


        I was doing the same until it hit me square between the eyes that I was going nowhere trying to do everything at once.

        My suggestion would be to pick a niche/product and focus on getting up a website and driving traffic to that one site, then monetize (adsense,clickbank, Amazon etc.)
        Once you start making money, repeat and repeat again!

        TonyB
        Hey! Thanks for the great advice! That is exactly the phase I have just hit. I am doing everything and going absolutely nowhere. I think I will take your advice and focus on one or two sites for a single niche.

        I have a question for you though. Would you be willing to bounce ideas off of one anther and perhaps give each other advice? I really need someone who isn't going to charge me a fortune to help me get on my feet.
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      • Profile picture of the author blillard
        Trying to do all and be all is one sure way to get no where faster than you stated the method. Start with one method work until you feel there is no hope in that method and simply move on to something, but only after proper testing. It is easy to get caught up in the next best method that may never be the best fit for your business.

        Originally Posted by Tonybuk View Post

        Hi!

        Sounds a lot like me a few months ago!

        The answer is really in your post:

        I've still been attempting the general approach

        looking into other methods to perhaps combine

        A few domain names


        I was doing the same until it hit me square between the eyes that I was going nowhere trying to do everything at once.

        My suggestion would be to pick a niche/product and focus on getting up a website and driving traffic to that one site, then monetize (adsense,clickbank, Amazon etc.)
        Once you start making money, repeat and repeat again!

        TonyB
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    • Profile picture of the author EdFriedrich
      Originally Posted by webapex View Post

      Regularly add original quality content, yea you will have to spend time off site getting links too, but not until you have well over 10 pages of content. A young site has to keep paddling to maintain search ranking, ranking for subtantial established sites sticks better.
      Developing faster, better quality writing abilities may be as important as some technical skills. Since the last Google (Panda) update, unoriginal content is not as effective.
      Thanks for the advice! I've got a couple questions for you though. From what you've said, it could take me six months of developing a site before I even begin to implement monetizing strategies. Is this correct?

      In the long run, I do believe this is definitely the best way to go about it, but for a beginner looking to get started and see some light at the end of the tunnel, do you have any suggestions of methods with a shorter time span (even if the return on that method is nothing compared to your previously-mentioned method)?

      Thanks Again!
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      • Profile picture of the author davidmeeonline
        Originally Posted by EdFriedrich View Post

        In the long run, I do believe this is definitely the best way to go about it, but for a beginner looking to get started and see some light at the end of the tunnel, do you have any suggestions of methods with a shorter time
        A good method here is to offer a service!

        Eg, if you can write, offer an article writing service, and get paid to learn the best ways to write and use content.

        Just a thought...
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        • Profile picture of the author EdFriedrich
          Originally Posted by davidmeeonline View Post

          A good method here is to offer a service!

          Eg, if you can write, offer an article writing service, and get paid to learn the best ways to write and use content.

          Just a thought...
          I have thought about this many times actually. I would really like to form a relationship with someone who can teach me a lot. Heck, I'd do the writing for free if they'd give me statistics on what is working and what isn't and suggestions on how to improve!
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      • Profile picture of the author JRCarson
        Originally Posted by EdFriedrich View Post

        Thanks for the advice! I've got a couple questions for you though. From what you've said, it could take me six months of developing a site before I even begin to implement monetizing strategies. Is this correct?

        In the long run, I do believe this is definitely the best way to go about it, but for a beginner looking to get started and see some light at the end of the tunnel, do you have any suggestions of methods with a shorter time span (even if the return on that method is nothing compared to your previously-mentioned method)?

        Thanks Again!
        Sites can be monetized immediately, by just adding affiliate links into your content when you create the site/web page.

        Taking the SEO approach...

        It may take 6 months to earn money, but only because it may take 6 months to rank your site high enough in Google to get traffic. Or you could rank your site high enough in less time for a lot of traffic, because you have chosen keywords that have less competition and high searches, and also are "buying" keywords.

        Personally, I feel 6 months is too long of a time frame as a goal. You could start making commissions in just a few weeks if you choose your keywords wisely and shoot some back links at it.

        Having said that, a big part of ranking your sites higher is the amount of time your site has been up and running on the internet. So in 6 months, you may jump up a few spots...even though I've found a year is more like it...
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        • Profile picture of the author Alan Ashwood

          Hey, You've Got A Budget!


          Having anything to get you started is an advantage. The amount you have to spend is directly related to the amount of time you can save.

          But use that budget wisely.


          Don't get caught up in the Next Best Thing Syndrome, by buying the stuff that's touted in your emails. Not unless you've fully researched it first, using, say, IM Report Card. They have a brilliant rating system, as well as excellent descriptions of thousands of available products.

          Don't Spend Unecessarily. Look for equally as good tools and resources that you can get cheaper - or even free.

          I have been advising my followers and readers on low cost and free alternatives for some time, and there are many ways to keep your investments lower than you'd expect.

          If you come to a stumbling block, or need some help along the way. Don't buy a ready made course which 'may' contain the answer. Ask the Warriors here.

          There are some great replies here. Note down those that repeat or seem feasible for you, and move on from there.

          I wish you luck with your venture

          Cheers

          Alan

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          Time for a cuppa.
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  • Profile picture of the author davidmeeonline
    There are as many ways to make a living online, as there are members of this forum. Everyone does it slightly differently. What works for someone else won't always work for you.

    That being said, there are general principles, which are always the same.

    You can setup a website as :-
    - a squeeze page to get subscribers to a list
    - a product review site
    - an authority site
    - a mix of all three

    you can drive people to your site with :-
    - SEO
    - Banner advertising
    - PPC advertising
    - all sorts of other advertising
    - social media
    - lot of other ways

    you can earn money from your site with :-
    - clickbank products
    - adsense revenue
    - Amazon products
    - your own product
    - your own service
    - CPA offers

    You can not have a website at all, and drive traffic to CPA offers etc, with advertising and other means.

    This is only scratching the surface, but gives an idea of the possibilities out there. The trick for those just starting is to pick one which suits your personality and lifestyle, and run with it, until it works!

    If you have no money, and some time available, then SEO to a website may suit very well, as you can do a lot of the work yourself.

    If you have some starting money, you may like to learn PPC advertising, which will take a lot of your money to learn, but can be very profitable.

    Something which helped me after years of struggling, was finding someone who had a successful model, and who was earning what I wanted to earn. I bought their course, and stuck to it. Guess what, it worked!

    I had blown a lot of money on my education in the mean time, and it would have been easy to give it up, but there are so many helpful, supportive people here on the forum, that show that success is only just around the corner..

    Good Luck with it, anything is possible!
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    • Profile picture of the author EdFriedrich
      Originally Posted by davidmeeonline View Post

      There are as many ways to make a living online, as there are members of this forum. Everyone does it slightly differently. What works for someone else won't always work for you.

      That being said, there are general principles, which are always the same.

      You can setup a website as :-
      - a squeeze page to get subscribers to a list
      - a product review site
      - an authority site
      - a mix of all three

      you can drive people to your site with :-
      - SEO
      - Banner advertising
      - PPC advertising
      - all sorts of other advertising
      - social media
      - lot of other ways

      you can earn money from your site with :-
      - clickbank products
      - adsense revenue
      - Amazon products
      - your own product
      - your own service
      - CPA offers

      You can not have a website at all, and drive traffic to CPA offers etc, with advertising and other means.

      This is only scratching the surface, but gives an idea of the possibilities out there. The trick for those just starting is to pick one which suits your personality and lifestyle, and run with it, until it works!

      If you have no money, and some time available, then SEO to a website may suit very well, as you can do a lot of the work yourself.

      If you have some starting money, you may like to learn PPC advertising, which will take a lot of your money to learn, but can be very profitable.

      Something which helped me after years of struggling, was finding someone who had a successful model, and who was earning what I wanted to earn. I bought their course, and stuck to it. Guess what, it worked!

      I had blown a lot of money on my education in the mean time, and it would have been easy to give it up, but there are so many helpful, supportive people here on the forum, that show that success is only just around the corner..

      Good Luck with it, anything is possible!
      Hey, thanks for the reply! I really appreciate how down to earth you were. You basically provided me with a ton of information without all of the mumbo jumbo garble that is thrown into the eBooks and courses on IM. I really appreciate your assistance!
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Out of all the information that you have overloaded yourself on, what interests you. Only you can decide what is the best match for your interests and skills. Once you make that decision, learn everything you can about that method and "crush it"
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  • Profile picture of the author TheSEguy
    Take your time and try not to snap up the next big thing just because its warapped up nicely with a shiny launch via clickbank and 100s of affiliates ramming it down your throat.

    There is alot of info online and on here, enough to make your head spin so my best advice is defo take your time with everything.

    A great way to start is with a nice looking squeeze page in a niche that interests you and build traffic to it via manual link building, use the warrior for hire section and fiverr for traffic help if you need it, I have a list in the gaming niche as i enjoy the xbox and playing online and have been building it for over 2 years now.

    The next step is develop a site around the list your building as you will already have a targeted following when your site launches.

    This way you see results by having people sign up to your list, not necessarily finacial right away but it gives you some groundwork to build from, then monetize the site and market to your list with offers or just recommend they pay you a visit.

    There are many different ways people market products or there own, but stick to a niche you actually have an interest in that way its easier to stay on course and not just see dollar signs.

    Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author EdFriedrich
      Originally Posted by TheSEguy View Post

      Take your time and try not to snap up the next big thing just because its warapped up nicely with a shiny launch via clickbank and 100s of affiliates ramming it down your throat.

      There is alot of info online and on here, enough to make your head spin so my best advice is defo take your time with everything.

      A great way to start is with a nice looking squeeze page in a niche that interests you and build traffic to it via manual link building, use the warrior for hire section and fiverr for traffic help if you need it, I have a list in the gaming niche as i enjoy the xbox and playing online and have been building it for over 2 years now.

      The next step is develop a site around the list your building as you will already have a targeted following when your site launches.

      This way you see results by having people sign up to your list, not necessarily finacial right away but it gives you some groundwork to build from, then monetize the site and market to your list with offers or just recommend they pay you a visit.

      There are many different ways people market products or there own, but stick to a niche you actually have an interest in that way its easier to stay on course and not just see dollar signs.

      Good luck.
      Hey, this kind of advice is exactly what I was looking for. I feel like a N00B for asking this, but what exactly is a squeeze page? I've only heard it used when referring to basically a page to get to a product. What is it that I will be offering people on the squeeze page that will make them want to give me their information? I feel like such a novice, but we all have to start somewhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author alcymart
    Within my IM course, I teach all what you need to know to succeed online using methods I developped within the last 11 years, however like another poster said, we all have different methods and one will work for someone and not someone else, and as another member posted, once you like the business model, stick with it to death! Only focus on the method you prefer most where you may actually have some talent wouldn't hurt either.

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    One of the things us SEO people forget is the fact that quality is king. Things go viral because people like the content and are willing to share it. You might want to just focus on one at a time, just go for it
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  • Profile picture of the author caseyho
    Hey EdFriedrich, my advice is to get around with the successful peoples. You might be need an accountability buddy or set up a mastermind group around 3 - 4 persons.
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    • Profile picture of the author EdFriedrich
      Originally Posted by caseyho View Post

      Hey EdFriedrich, my advice is to get around with the successful peoples. You might be need an accountability buddy or set up a mastermind group around 3 - 4 persons.
      Hey Casey,

      Thanks for the advice, but do you have any suggestions on how to find people willing to help? In my search I've only been able to come across people who are trying to charge me a fortune if I want their advice.

      Thanks,
      Ed
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    My advice is to find something that you can easily start off with and focus on that. Minimize your time on the forum and make yourself work rather than browse or else you will get bogged down by too much information and you will take no action.
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  • Profile picture of the author JoeMack
    Originally Posted by EdFriedrich View Post

    Hey all!

    My Question: With all of these different options, where is the best place for me to start?

    I'm new to the IM world as of about three months ago. I originally thought I would try the Google Sniper approach. This idea, however, didn't turn out so well once I realized that it is nearly impossible to find keywords that come even close to meeting the requirements given in GS. Regardless, I've still been attempting the general approach while at the same time looking into other methods to perhaps combine with the overall idea of GS to make something that works well for me.

    What I Have
    • Web hosting through Bluehost
    • A few domain names that may or may not be great keywords
    • A relatively small budget (I have about $600 to put toward my endeavors, realistically, I'd only like to spend $400)
    • Strong motivation and a promise to myself that I'm not going to give up until I start making a living online.
    Will one of you amazingly nice people help me out? Give me an idea of where to start or perhaps give me a little apprenticeship? I'd be happy to exchange my services for your advice and/or assistance.

    Thanks Guys!
    Ed
    Ed....

    You have a lot of things going for you. Having a budget of any AMOUNT is fantastic. Pick one method, one strategy, and stick to it for at least a month. Do a little research before you make your selection. But after you have decided on it, give it your all.

    Stay focused. Take lots of action And you'll do fine.

    JoeMack
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  • Hey Ed,

    I would strongly urge you to start building an email list. This will ensure you can get traffic to new products and sites you are promoting for FREE. Also know that it is much easier to sell to someone who has already bought from you, than it is to sell to someone new. So after you have a list of people who know you, like you, and trust you, it is much easier to monetize that list. You have to build a relationship with your list and over deliver value with what you are giving away or selling. Try using PLR products to build your list and monetize it. Build a squeeze page and give away something of value for free. There are lots of reasons to build a list. It is what all the highly effective marketers do. I think too many people, especially newbies overlook this vital step. You can also use affiliate products from clickbank to monetize your list. And don't forget to have a follow up series of emails ready to go to send out to your list when they sign up. Also make a buyers list. Also use an autoresponder to manage your list. Hope this will help you!

    Peace and Love,

    Anthony Spencer
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