Is cheap writing really worth the cost?

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The title of the thread says it all, and I'm curious to know what your responses will be. I've read about people being paid upwards of $500 per article to as little as 50 cents (yes, it's true). And personally, I've been paid as much as $100 for a single article, but those clients seem almost like a rare species nearing extinction. In today's global market, it's as if everyone is gradually turning to outsourcing their content to nations with a lower cost of living solely for the sake of saving a buck. No one seems to care much about value or quality anymore, which leads me to wonder about some things.

It can be said that outsourcing is just smart business practice, but have you considered its real cost? If you could hire a writer that produces 10 articles daily at the rate of $15 per day, would you? Many of you are probably thinking, "Where can I find them?" But, you really need to take a step back and look at what you're doing, or at least trying to do.

Let's say that you find this writer, and you hire them for a one-week trial. The first day, things go pretty well, and the articles you receive are somewhat decent. At first glance, they appear to be well-written and actually original. So, you send the writer more work, and wait for the next set of articles to arrive in your inbox. On Day 2, there's a slight hiccup in production, and your writer tells you they can get the articles to you the next day. Well, fast forward to Day 4, and you still haven't received the articles nor any word from your writer. By Day 5, you realize your mistake, and find yourself a bit uneasy over the time wasted and potential profit loss.

Sadly, that's the story of many many marketers, and they fall for it every time. I'm not saying that all "cheap" writers are the same, but the dependable ones are very far and few between. Even when they do produce the content you've asked of them, it's rare that it actually meets your expectations. This comes as no real surprise, however, as most people are well aware that low quality is generally the trade-off for a cheap price. Yet and still, people tend to flock to these writers and then complain because they got what they paid for. If you know that the typical results of hiring cheap writers are dismal at best, why keep doing it?

Are you so bent on paying the lowest rate possible that you are willing to sacrifice the interests of your readership? Do you realize that these same people who read your content are your intended buyers? I should hope so because without them you would be broke. If you're publishing content that can be considered garbage at best, do you really think that your readers will follow your recommendations or ever buy anything from you? Unless you live in some fantasy world where all of your dreams come true without respect to actual reality, then the answer is clearly no.

Everyone knows that, at some point, they are going to be sold on something. The question is, "Will it be YOUR article that sells them?" No one wants to be bombarded with pushy, in your face marketing spiel every time they visit your website. But, that's most of what you get with the articles being published these days, just a sales ploy (no matter how bad it may be). What about the person who reads your articles hoping that they will find some valuable insight to their problems? Have you forgotten about them? People are on the hunt for information that helps them. Provide it, and the money will follow.

And so, that brings me to another very important question.

Are you hoping to find a writer that superficially feeds your desire to push your competition out of the top of the SERPs so that you can rake in huge wads of cash? Or, are you after a writer that can appeal to your readers needs, wants, and deepest desires to the point that there exists NO competition?

Seasoned marketers will obviously identify with the latter, but the more pressing question is, "What price are you willing to pay?"
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  • Profile picture of the author David Maschke
    Hi Ginesa,

    (I like your name)

    There is a WSO that will answer your question...

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    It's written by some guy named all Paul Myers, I think he's a new guy here in the Warrior Forum
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    • Profile picture of the author truly_gifted
      Originally Posted by David Maschke View Post

      Hi Ginesa,

      (I like your name)

      There is a WSO that will answer your question...

      WSO

      It's written by some guy named all Paul Myers, I think he's a new guy here in the Warrior Forum
      I'm curious as to what question it will answer? This thread is not about how to be a better writer or anything of the sort. And I'm not looking for a one-size-fits-all type of response because there isn't one.

      Everyone has their own opinion about the worth of writing, and what they are willing to pay for it. I am seeking insight as to why people choose the writers they do, and what they are actually searching for in a writer. I'm also very interested in finding out just how much people value good content, or if the majority of the members here just don't care.

      Warrior Forum is built around the topic of making money online. Regardless of what form of internet marketing you choose to pursue, content is a necessary piece of the puzzle. What I'd like to know is whether people appreciate what good writing can do for their bottom line, or if its an oblivious matter to them.

      By the way, thanks for the compliment.
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  • Profile picture of the author GameVoid
    From what I have been seeing, there are a lot of people desperate to buy things that are not really articles, they are just a bunch of words hashed together that vaguely resemble a fourth graders essay about a topic of product.

    I recently signed up for a certain backlinking service. That service also has another service that can feed articles to your blog. I am finding that less than 10% of the "articles" that are being syndicated are actually readable and provide any sort of usable information at all.

    For instance there has been a flood of wedding dress articles coming across the service that were obviously machine spun at the word level so you have sentences that are completely obnoxious or downright offensive. I even had an article about colon cancer came through that used the word "ass" in several places instead of colon!

    Until Google finally finds a way to completely ignore those articles and the backlinks they provide however, there is going to be people buying them. Which doesn't really make sense. Why pay someone in India $2.00 to put together a crappy article at all if you are just going to make it even crappier by spinning it 2000 times?

    Until Google can completely tell the difference between:

    "Buying a wedding dress can be as fun as it is frightening, but it is a necessary step in your marital journey"

    and

    "Purchasing wedding dress often makes terror, but needs to be fulfilled into your matrimonial quest"

    Then we are just going to have to put up with the garbage on the net.
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  • Profile picture of the author MatthewNeer
    Go use Article Writers, Article Writing Service, 100% American Writers - Articlez.com

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  • Profile picture of the author MatthewNeer
    Originally Posted by truly_gifted View Post

    And so, that brings me to another very important question.

    Are you hoping to find a writer that superficially feeds your desire to push your competition out of the top of the SERPs so that you can rake in huge wads of cash? Or, are you after a writer that can appeal to your readers needs, wants, and deepest desires to the point that there exists NO competition?
    I'm not willing to pay more than a few bucks per article because then I'd just write the damn thing myself...

    Thats why I outsource using the site above. All American, high quality sh*t!
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  • Profile picture of the author HN
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    Well, my quess is this is done for SEO purposes. You use the crappy articles to have related links pointing to your quality article or site. When you upload your spun articles to 25 other sites you don't really care about whether they will be read by human being. All you care about is you get backlinks from related webpage with your keyword in title, body and url. When it comes to actual surfers, your website that you are optimizing should outrank those crappy sites of yours so the real people find your quality site when they search for keyword or phrase. Some odd visitors may find and read your crappy articles, but it makes no sense to pay 10x more to have articles professionally written if you don't expect anyone to read them.
    If, however, you use those cheap articles on your main blog of website, or submit to well known directories, then I'd say you are wasting your money. Get 1 well written article instead of 5 or 10 nonsense posts.
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  • Profile picture of the author mysterrio
    I think it all depends on what you are doing with the articles. I have seen some crap and I have seen some great stuff out there cheap. I think it is about knowing who you can trust and the only way you can find that out is to try someone out.
    Sometiomes yopu get what you pay for and sometimes you pay for what you don't get- it's all part of doing business on the World Wide Web (as cruel as that sounds) Did you ever see a bad movie? Did you get your money back? Nuff said...I think
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  • Profile picture of the author ladywriter
    They don't realize how much better their articles could be, to be honest.

    They get an article for 2 bucks, they didn't have to write it, it has their keywords, it's readable, that's enough for a lot of people.
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  • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
    It really just depends on what the content is being used for. We regularly order content at $2.00 - $5.00 per article. We then have our staff make edits, adjust, etc. The content is far from award-winning, but isn't painful to read like some of the garbage we've seen and usually try to make a few points that are at least somewhat valuable.

    On the other hand, we've spent $20 - $30 for articles we liked and that were able to deliver a fair amount of traffic. I've also spent quite a bit of time myself researching and writing articles that were important to me.

    I've heard of people paying $3,000 and up for a good piece of sales copy. We haven't had a need for that level of article writing at this point, but I can see how it may be worth it at some point in the future.

    What I DON'T believe, though, is that "you get what you pay for" when it comes to article writing. We've had articles at $5.00 that were significantly better than those we paid $30.00 for in some instances. I've noticed many article writers that are quite angry that the price of articles has dropped so low with some decent writers offshore, but I would argue that if their content is comparable, then they should either charge less or get better!
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    • Profile picture of the author truly_gifted
      Originally Posted by TryBPO View Post

      It really just depends on what the content is being used for. We regularly order content at $2.00 - $5.00 per article. We then have our staff make edits, adjust, etc. The content is far from award-winning, but isn't painful to read like some of the garbage we've seen and usually try to make a few points that are at least somewhat valuable.

      On the other hand, we've spent $20 - $30 for articles we liked and that were able to deliver a fair amount of traffic. I've also spent quite a bit of time myself researching and writing articles that were important to me.

      I've heard of people paying $3,000 and up for a good piece of sales copy. We haven't had a need for that level of article writing at this point, but I can see how it may be worth it at some point in the future.

      What I DON'T believe, though, is that "you get what you pay for" when it comes to article writing. We've had articles at $5.00 that were significantly better than those we paid $30.00 for in some instances. I've noticed many article writers that are quite angry that the price of articles has dropped so low with some decent writers offshore, but I would argue that if their content is comparable, then they should either charge less or get better!
      You do realize that writing sales copy is NOT the same as writing an article, right? I still don't understand how or why people even make that assumption.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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        Content writing informs only.

        Copywriting sells. Or to put it more accurately...

        Copywriting builds up the emotional desire for a product, goods or services based on the benefits to the target audience.

        An article may only take from a few minutes to an hour or so to actually write out.

        Copywriting on the other hand can often take upto 40 hours to write a single sales letter.

        Hence the massive difference in the fees commanded.
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      • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
        Originally Posted by truly_gifted View Post

        You do realize that writing sales copy is NOT the same as writing an article, right? I still don't understand how or why people even make that assumption.
        Sorry, yes, I definitely do...I made a mistake after the $3,000+ sales copy statement and mentioned article writing again, but that wasn't what i meant.

        All the same, there are those that can command hundreds and thousands of dollars for articles as well, not just sales copy. I'm sure some of that writing is well worth that cost, for sure, but we're not at any level where that would benefit us. (And we wouldn't know quite what to do with it, honestly)
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        • Profile picture of the author swilliams09
          Its the same way in all service based industries. Even in video. I can't run my office and pay my bills on the cheap prices warriors want to pay for video. So I go to offline clients, they are willing to pay for value and I make online clients supplimental income.

          The internet is a big race to the bottom as far as prices go, after a while though people get tired of doing work for nothing and start to charge more, and clients get tired of getting shoddy, unpredictable work and go after quality. It takes time though. In the mean time look for the 20% who give you 80% of your business.

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          • Profile picture of the author NicheMayhem
            Content is king, right? Well, sadly, a lot of website owners have no sense of professional pride or integrity. When a reputation is irrelevant and the mentality that "as long as it makes money" is their barrier, really anything will do.

            Believe me though, most of the people who don't care about quality are those which only dabble in this business. They also rarely make any money with the crappy content they put out there. The acquisition of a sale is subject to hundreds of factors. Getting a visitor to arrive at your site with a keyword stuffed, difficult to read article will rarely result in a sale.

            I know of many marketers who pay an average of $25 to $40 for their articles and rely on the same writer over and over again. Many of them would pay more just because they have grown accustomed to the content they want being produced reliably and efficiently. The difference is, they are marketers and many of the people who buy 99 cent articles could care less about their readers, or will be back to flipping burgers next month and posting here on the forum about how IM is all a scam.

            A great tip for all, identify your standards personally not globally.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kecia
    When starting out, I think many marketers do not have the funds to pay for higher priced writers, nor do they see the value in paying more for articles. A lot of them think (and some have personally told me), "Why pay $10+ per article when I can get the same thing for just $2???" They eventually get the hint when they outsource for an extremely low cost and get rubbish in return. Most understand then the need to pay more for a quality writer, but you will still have a few that do not learn the lesson and will continue to find and pay as many $2 outsourcers as possible, looking for that special one who delivers high quality, grammar free, easy to understand, basically perfect content.

    With that being said, I personally wouldn't pay more than $10-$15 per article. I write most of my content myself, but in the event I need articles quickly, I will outsource from time to time. I can find the quality of writing I need delivered to me in a timely manner for $10.

    The price I pay must be within my budget, and the area of outsourcing only gets a small portion of my IM related budget.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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      Excellent article writing is an investment not a cost.

      I think a lot of marketers think that it's very easy to constantly churn out content on any given subject. Article after article after article every one of them unique and original takes time and expertise.

      If you expect an article writer to write articles at the rate of 10-15 plus per day - you're in for a severe disappointment. Any form of professional writing takes time.

      Research takes up a lot of that time. Making notes from the research is just the start of the process. At the end when one feels competent enough to write an article on any given subject, only then will the writing actually commence.

      A lot of people do not see the problems experienced through the eye's of the article writer or copywriter, they just throw out unreasonable demands falsely thinking, s/he's a writer dammit, it's easy for them. Wrong!

      It's not easy at all. A lot of professional writers who take pride in their work to deliver the best content or copywriting possible, their work you cannot hurry or rush along.

      It is the mark of the inexperienced writer who will instantly say yes to all demands placed upon them by any one customer. But you have to know your limitations as a writer.

      There is a ceiling upon which if you allow the client to rush you through the process of delivering their work (to their high expectations and satisfaction) the quality of work delivered will be sacrificed if and when you start pushing the writer too much. Many professional companies respect this. Most small time marketers on the other hand unforunately disrespect this little fact. And so they set themselves up for disapointment.

      It's a two way process. To get higher quality writing you must place reasonable demands only on your writer of choice. If you go the other way the quality of work wll suffer.

      Most professional writers like myself, we write because it's the number one activity which makes us happy. We actually really enjoy writing. But if you start dictating terms, placing unreasonable demands on us whilst offering monkey pay, chances are sooner or later we will replace you as a client with someone better.

      It's all about building longterm healthy working relationships. Everyone loves to work for positive people, kind, caring, understanding individuals who are good listeners and can make excellent calls of judgement. And make good on their financial obligations in a timely manner.

      For example, recently one of the top copywriters on this forum approached me to write some blog articles for his copywriting website. Twelve articles in total on the art of persuasion and emotional persuasion triggers, a subject very dear and close to my heart. A subject I know and understand inside out.

      His deadline was not one day or two days or even seven days. No, he knew what he wanted in advance and subsequently knowing this, he gave a deadline of thirty days for the twelve articles.

      It was a pleasure therefore to write these articles for him. The pressure of time was taken off my shoulders. I could actually enjoy the process of writing these articles on his behalf. The result?...

      He was 100% happy with the articles supplied. Each one was completely unique and original (I never ever use article spinning software.) And I, I actually gained pleasure from supplying these twelve article to him on time.

      In return he offered me a decent amount of money and paid for them instantly. No if's, no but's, no nitpicking, he put his hand in his wallet and paid out the money which was due because he knew the articles were not an expense, a cost to his business but a full blown investment in his future business.

      At the end of the day, it all comes down to respect. If you respect your craft (whatever it may be) you can expect higher quality gigs.

      If on the other hand you disrespect your craft (whatever it may be) you'll be forever picking breadcrumbs off the floor left by other marketers and business owners both on and offline.

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  • Profile picture of the author Underground SEO
    no, absolutely not worth it, more often than not you will be left with something which doesn't engage the reader and which is poorly written. I always pay extra to ensure that someone who actually knows what they are doing is in charge of any writing project
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    I think for articles, you want to get the unique content but not pay an arm and a leg for it.

    For sales copy though, I would pay more if it converted better then a cheaper version.

    The biggest issue is wannabe online millioinaires are CHEAP. They don't want to invest anything into their success. They want to make a million a year but don't want to put any of their own money into it. Could you imagine if offline businesses followed that same mindset? We'd be seeing a lot of lemonade stands in places where real businesses exist today.

    If new people and veterans alike would only understand that you have to spend money to make money, (yes even with "free" traffic if you want to make more then $5), then they'd become successful a lot faster.

    But that's another rant.

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  • Profile picture of the author omk
    Originally Posted by truly_gifted View Post

    The title of the thread says it all, and I'm curious to know what your responses will be. I've read about people being paid upwards of $500 per article to as little as 50 cents (yes, it's true). And personally, I've been paid as much as $100 for a single article, but those clients seem almost like a rare species nearing extinction. In today's global market, it's as if everyone is gradually turning to outsourcing their content to nations with a lower cost of living solely for the sake of saving a buck. No one seems to care much about value or quality anymore, which leads me to wonder about some things.
    LOL, it looks like a few people just want to push some article writing products here or didn't bother to read your post.

    I think in some rare instances there are some top notch writers who can offer their services for less, but I feel that in general - better writers charge more for quality articles. You get what you pay for, still holds true in many instances.
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  • Profile picture of the author Neil Macks
    I've been lucky and had some great articles for about $5 a piece. I find that advertising on Elance or something similar and then giving a chance to new writers can yield some excellent results. Of course the price is good because they are unknown and looking to build a portfolio, and you won't be able to use them for long because the good ones always raise the price eventually (as they should). Then you just start on the next generation of new writers.

    Someone has to give them a chance and I have seen some great results on many occasions.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Ginesa

    You can blame the proliferation of crap passing for articles on people misunderstanding marketing techniques. Newbies have generally been led to believe the purpose of an article is to get link juice. The only thing many look for is key word stuffing. The more stuffed with key words the "article" is the more valuable they seem to think it is.

    It's one of the most ludicrous IM marketing ideas I've ever seen take hold en mass. What good is link juice if all it's doing is drawing more people that just read a sentence or two and click off because they think you're an idiot? You can crank your site to #1 on page 1 of google and still not make sales, let alone repeat patrons. You never become an authority in your own niche if people get an image of you sitting in a corner picking your nose and drooling.

    GOOD articles, when distributed to submission sites don't just provide back links. They get used by others for their own sites and newsletters. You get more back links and you get respect and interest. The people who do click to your site click because you have knowledge that they want to pursue. You boost your image, increase your ability to network and build a loyal following using quality content. While you can find sales on quality content here and there, most of the time you are going to pay for professional quality content that actually bolsters your business instead of just getting you a lot of useless traffic. Search engines do not buy products, ya know?

    What happens when people do due dilligence and google you before they buy and find nothing but a large list of poorly written crap that was posted just to get traffic? You LOSE sales. You lose return visitors. You lose..........well, that's it. You lose.

    Unfortunately - people will continue to misunderstand the purpose of content and will continue to buy crap believing it will in some way help their business grow. There are people that will continue to produce and sell article spinners. There are people who can barely understand sentence structure let alone theme progression selling substandard work for minimum profits. After all, excellent, effective content is expensive and hard to write yourself if you aren't professionally skilled. It takes awhile to build up a file of great content that helps your business grow organically, too - and everyone knows you will wither up and blow away if your business isn't successful overnight.
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    • Profile picture of the author NicheMayhem
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post


      GOOD articles, when distributed to submission sites don't just provide back links. They get used by others for their own sites and newsletters. You get more back links and you get respect and interest. The people who do click to your site click because you have knowledge that they want to pursue. You boost your image, increase your ability to network and build a loyal following using quality content. While you can find sales on quality content here and there, most of the time you are going to pay for professional quality content that actually bolsters your business instead of just getting you a lot of useless traffic. Search engines do not buy products, ya know?

      What happens when people do due dilligence and google you before they buy and find nothing but a large list of poorly written crap that was posted just to get traffic? You LOSE sales. You lose return visitors. You lose..........well, that's it. You lose.

      Unfortunately - people will continue to misunderstand the purpose of content and will continue to buy crap believing it will in some way help their business grow. There are people that will continue to produce and sell article spinners. There are people who can barely understand sentence structure let alone theme progression selling substandard work for minimum profits. After all, excellent, effective content is expensive and hard to write yourself if you aren't professionally skilled. It takes awhile to build up a file of great content that helps your business grow organically, too - and everyone knows you will wither up and blow away if your business isn't successful overnight.

      Well said! The parts in bold especially. Wish I had read that before I responded. lol

      It is so true and to any article writer out there, identify your price at what you feel your time is worth. If your just starting out as a writer providing a service, start low and get some momentum, but gradually raise your prices to coincide with what you feel your worth. Finding site owners who value quality is possible and truthfully they are the only ones you want to associate your work with anyway.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by NicheMayhem View Post

        Well said! The parts in bold especially. Wish I had read that before I responded. lol

        It is so true and to any article writer out there, identify your price at what you feel your time is worth. If your just starting out as a writer providing a service, start low and get some momentum, but gradually raise your prices to coincide with what you feel your worth. Finding site owners who value quality is possible and truthfully they are the only ones you want to associate your work with anyway.
        LOL - that'll teach you to thread skim, eh?

        Seriously though - a little redundancy on this point never hurts. If people keep hammering this point long enough, some people may just start to get the gist of it. At least we can hope so.
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  • Profile picture of the author MrBusiness
    If you have the right amount of money, pay for good quality, well written content that will attract your audience better
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  • Profile picture of the author williamrs
    My writer doesn't write articles for me (I work with paid traffic), I'm not a native english speaker and I need help with sales letters, landing pages, autoresponder series, etc... My writer rewrites my content and fixes the errors.

    In my case, the quality of the service is the most important factor. It doesn't mean that I would be willing to pay a ridiculously high amount of money for just a few words, but I would certainly go with a more expensive writer to get high quality content instead of saving a few dollars and getting content that would damage the performance of my campaigns.


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    • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
      Originally Posted by williamrs View Post

      My writer doesn't write articles for me (I work with paid traffic), I'm not a native english speaker and I need help with sales letters, landing pages, autoresponder series, etc... My writer rewrites my content and fixes the errors.

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      Hey there...I just wanted to tell you that I LOVE this strategy. I see so many terrible articles and sales pages that were written by non-native English speakers. It's not that the points are bad...it's just that the writing is so distracting that, I think, many people miss the points.

      The fact that you are smart enough and "get that" to have someone to edit and re-write your content is awesome...I'd bet that COMPLETELY pays for itself in increased sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mou
    With Panda Update , quality content has become even more important. The days for cheap articles and machine spun junk is over IMHO. Likely to become more apparent in coming few months.

    Personally have sites ranking in Google #1 and #2 for highly searched health topics beating sites like webmd which I contribute not only to good onsite content but also quality offsite content linking back to the site.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Even better than writing articles for ranking is to write articles for revenue. Being a simple kind of guy myself, I never could understand why everyone seems to try so hard just to get to Page 1 on Google using keywords couched in nonsense with no regard for the readers. Besides, why even spend so much effort and time trying to rank when it's so much easier to get traffic just by hitching a ride with the top sites? Placing quality articles on websites and blogs that already rank for your keywords is just as good as being there yourself. And it really does not take many articles at all to crack into any market no matter how stiff the competition. Some people just work way too hard.
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      • Profile picture of the author Cali16
        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        It's one of the most ludicrous IM marketing ideas I've ever seen take hold en mass. What good is link juice if all it's doing is drawing more people that just read a sentence or two and click off because they think you're an idiot? You can crank your site to #1 on page 1 of google and still not make sales, let alone repeat patrons. You never become an authority in your own niche if people get an image of you sitting in a corner picking your nose and drooling.

        Unfortunately - people will continue to misunderstand the purpose of content and will continue to buy crap believing it will in some way help their business grow.
        Excellent post, Sal! I couldn't agree with you more. (Although now I can't get this disturbing image of a nose-picking drooler out of my head!)

        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        Even better than writing articles for ranking is to write articles for revenue. Being a simple kind of guy myself, I never could understand why everyone seems to try so hard just to get to Page 1 on Google using keywords couched in nonsense with no regard for the readers.
        Exactly, Myob! I was just saying in another thread earlier today that if I'm searching online for something and start reading poor quality content on a site, I quickly leave that site. If they were hoping to sell me something they lost me as a potential customer because of a terrible first impression / lack of credibility.

        Crap content on the first page of Google is still crap content. Kind of like zero times one million is still zero. Maybe I'm missing something but isn't it just as easy (and perhaps easier now since recent changes on Google) to get a quality site or article to the first page of Google as it is to get one that has poor content?
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  • Profile picture of the author Shakd
    Quality is in the eye of the beholder! Lots of people say that they write quality. But moreso, it really isn't. I'd get samples, which is what I used to do, not anymore! I support the services I offer to only benefit in the Google Search Engines!
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      Originally Posted by Shakd View Post

      Quality is in the eye of the beholder! Lots of people say that they write quality.
      AMEN, I have read many articles on various subjects written by anywhere from college professors to average Joes. The ones I found entertaining were ones that I could relate to and that interested me. If I were to read an article that was written in the same style that one would discuss quantum physics, I don't know that I could get past the first paragraph. Again, this is all subjective and not meant to insult those that enjoy a good discussion on quantum physics...:p I really think this goes back to knowing your audience and writing in a manner that speaks to the person reading it.
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  • Profile picture of the author ahew
    I think we all end up settling for crap at one time or another because we are told we have to build some ungodly amount of backlinks to our sites and that good enough is good enough. Indeed the www has quality taking a backseat to barely legible writing.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    Cheap articles are really only used as a way to build crappy backlinks. I don't see them being useful for developing an actual readership or anything like that. I wouldn't spend anything less than $30 on an article for my main site, and I'd make sure it was from a reputable writer with experience in / knowledge of the field that I need content on.
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  • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
    I hate to admit it, but I am entirely disgusted with my outsourcing results. I am a published writer myself(for a small magazine, lest people think I have an ego. lol) and having to suffer through the crap they send me is reaching a boiling point. Not only that, the notion of meeting a deadline is non-existent in other parts of the world. I had one guy tell me he was stricken with Typhoid over the weekend. Typhoid? Really? I didn't know how to respond because all I wanted to say was, "Do I seem like one of the dumbest human beings on Earth?" In any case, I kept my mouth shut cause I needed that crap-filled content.

    Before reading this post, I had already begun changing my strategy a bit. I've decided to line up 3-5 quality locations to publish good articles, then hire someone that will rewrite and spin them for a $1.25 per(thx WSO!). Use the good stuff to point to the main site, use the spun crap to point to the good articles. I was never into Pyramids, but it seems to be working rather well so far...

    I just need to find a few reliable, deadline driven folks to write 10-20 articles a month for me, without breaking the bank. My problem is margin. This smokinghotcopy guy looks right around my price range. I was paying $3-5 per, but am willing to try $10-15 to see if its worth the high expense for less headaches. Be looking for an email, sir!
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    • Profile picture of the author ahew
      Originally Posted by OneManSEO View Post

      Not only that, the notion of meeting a deadline is non-existent in other parts of the world. I had one guy tell me he was stricken with Typhoid over the weekend. Typhoid? Really? I didn't know how to respond because all I wanted to say was, "Do I seem like one of the dumbest human beings on Earth?" In any case, I kept my mouth shut cause I needed that crap-filled content.
      Ha ha! I get the same stuff all the time. One person missed a skype call with me because she had company show unexpectedly -- as if that's an excuse to not get on skype and say, "Can we reschedule?" Then she said her mom died (honestly, I don't know if I believe it). I gave her time off to grieve, but when she was supposed to return, she was 4 days late! interestingly enough she was able to bill me the day after the funeral when she was supposed to be grieving -- OVER BILL ME! Adios sucka! All these people who say they have the secret to outsourcing leave out all the fact that it's a full time job trying to find decent help!
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