Deciding how much to pay yourself

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Supposing you have a company with 10 employees that brings in $1,000,000/year of which $300,000 remains to pay wages. You are one of the 10 employees. What would be the considerations for deciding how much to pay yourself?
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnny Optimo
    Originally Posted by dvduval View Post

    Supposing you have a company with 10 employees that brings in $1,000,000/year of which $300,000 remains to pay wages. You are one of the 10 employees. What would be the considerations for deciding how much to pay yourself?
    Not sure, unless you NEED the money, I'd reinvest it in the company. If you own it, you shouldn't be thinking about how much to pay yourself - rather, you should figure out how much you need to pay your employees, and the leftover is yours to take or reinvest.

    So I think it depends on how much you need to pay the employees - what's the minimum you can pay them (and keep them happy) cumulatively, and subtract that from 300k

    Sometimes business owners end up making less than the employees, but if you're building value into the business, your big payoff will come later.
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    • Profile picture of the author Robert M Gouge
      Originally Posted by Johnny Optimo View Post

      Not sure, unless you NEED the money, I'd reinvest it in the company. If you own it, you shouldn't be thinking about how much to pay yourself - rather, you should figure out how much you need to pay your employees, and the leftover is yours to take or reinvest.

      So I think it depends on how much you need to pay the employees - what's the minimum you can pay them (and keep them happy) cumulatively, and subtract that from 300k

      Sometimes business owners end up making less than the employees, but if you're building value into the business, your big payoff will come later.
      With respect, I don't necessarily agree with this.

      One of the things preached by almost all financial gurus is to pay yourself first. I'm not saying shaft your employees or not to reinvest in your business, but you need to be making something and that amount needs to be defined in your budget.

      Reinvesting into your business and employee wages should be a completely separate part of your budget from your salary.

      Let's say you reinvest in your business and pay employees consuming 100% of the budget for 5 years. Basically you are working for free. If, after 5 years, your business flops, you've made ZERO for 5 years worth of work. An extreme example to be sure, but the point is there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by dvduval View Post

    What would be the considerations for deciding how much to pay yourself?
    The main one will be the local tax laws/procedures. In some countries, you might want to take as much as possible as "dividend" and as little as possible as "income". Or, of course, vice-versa, depending on your own tax position, whether you have other income to declare, and so on.

    There'll also doubtless be other considerations such as (a) how much you might want to leave in the company's account as "trading capital", and (b) whether such residue would attract corporation tax/company tax, and so on.

    It's really a question for which you need professional advice from an accountant.
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  • Profile picture of the author dvduval
    I like the answers so far as this is characteristic of what a small business "should" do. You reinvest in your people and in your products and in your infrastructure so you can grow over time. However, as we look at corporations today, or even "scheming" internet marketers, that is not the goal. Instead the goal is to pay oneself as much as possible in the name of capitalism and the invisible hand. I think that is all hogwash, and we need more small business owners in our society like the ones found here on Warrion Forum!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author moneytize
    well you can leverage money so the more you have in your hand, the more power you have. i personally like to spend the bare minimum and reinvest profits to grow even bigger
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy Broussard
    There's some basics that you have to consider that really haven't been covered here so I'm gonna chime in.

    ** Taxes - You've got be prepared for that so you should be saving for it as you go.

    ** Emergency Funds - Again, odd things happen sometimes and you may need quick access to emergency funds. Maybe your merchant account freezes your account while they "look into things" or whatever else could happen. Regardless of what it is, once you take the step of building a business and hiring employees you have an ethical obligation to be looking out for their best interests by maintaining a certain amount of reserves. Whether that's a month's income, 3 months income, whatever - you have to assess that, but I would highly suggest having at least 1 months revenue in liquid reserves and best to mix it up across a couple of banks.

    Beyond that, you have to make the decision you feel comfortable with. I know this for sure. It's your company and you should be taking a handsome profit. There is a reason that you have built a company and your employees are employees. Don't ever feel guilty about paying yourself for the company you've built.

    Lastly, ask yourself this... If you were a private investor looking into your company and considering investing in it, what would you think is appropriate? I can guarantee you an investor would not expect to find a CEO throwing his lunch money back into the company...
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    • Profile picture of the author Fred Young
      I pay myself a relatively small wage every week and when I need money, I write myself a check (draw or dividend, whatever you want to call it). The rest of my money gets reinvested in the company.

      I pay my taxes quarterly and I have all my other business expenses (gas & repairs, liability insurance, etc.) to consider.

      My advice would be to go through your finances and see what your living expenses amount to monthly. Pay yourself what you need to live comfortably and reinvest the rest in the company.

      That money will always be there if you ever need it, so don't worry yourself about taking a small salary.

      This may not be an idea you want to use, but my accountant told me this was the best way for me to pay myself and it has been working great for me.
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