What's your baseline for number of searches?

One Inch Punch · 12-30-2008, 05:22 AM

When considering keywords for articles or other purposes, what's the minimum number of searches you look for in a day, month etc.?

Is 200 on Wordtracker a good number?

freetraff · 12-30-2008, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by One Inch Punch

When considering keywords for articles or other purposes, what's the minimum number of searches you look for in a day, month etc.?

Is 200 on Wordtracker a good number?

Forget about WordTracker.

QUOTE from their official page "All search terms are collected from the major metacrawlers - Dogpile and Metacrawler." (quote taken from About Wordtracker)

Who the heck is using Dogpile and Metacrawler? A tiny-teeny fraction of the market that is close to statistical mistake.

It makes almost no point to check this tool (and all tools that are based on WT results).

Julia Andersson · 12-30-2008, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by freetraff

Forget about WordTracker.

QUOTE from their official page "All search terms are collected from the major metacrawlers - Dogpile and Metacrawler." (quote taken from About Wordtracker)

Who the heck is using Dogpile and Metacrawler? A tiny-teeny fraction of the market that is close to statistical mistake.

It makes almost no point to check this tool (and all tools that are based on WT results).

What keyword research tool do you recommend?

Unfortunately, overture is no longer an option as their URL now redirects to Yahoos small business site.

Of course, there is the google adwords suggestion tool but that is specifically geared toward what competition you have in adwords for certain keywords and the average search stats given are less than enlightening. I find the adwords tool useful for telling me the popularity of keywords... if they're popular then they are more likely to be converting well

Oh, and to the original poster... you have to remember that wordtracker results are NOT monthly stats but daily. So if the stats there say 200 searches then you're actually looking at around 6000 searches per month which is of course very respectable.

BIG Mike · 12-30-2008, 06:16 AM

I've always found the Google Keywords Tool to be the most accurate by far...and I prefer an average search volume of anywhere in the neighborhood of 800 to 100 or more.

Google's average monthly search volumes are accurate and applicable to far more than Adwords. And adding to the credibility of it's accuracy is the very idea that it's provided for advertisers. Do you really think Google is going to risk falsifying data used to drive the most profitable aspect of their business?

I have to disagree with everyone who thinks that any 3rd party tool could be anything more than educated guesswork, because to the best of my knowledge, none of the search engines share out their data with any of them.

Even back in the days of Overture, you were focusing on a statistically inaccurate search volume based on Yahoo, with a very small market share, compared to Google. I used to run an algorithm based on Overture data, weighting by marketshare and other factors I won't mention that did a fairly good job, but it was still largely guesswork.

Since I began using Google's Keyword Tool exclusively, my results have been dead on accurate and the ensuing traffic supports that me. Given the disparities I've seen from other keyword tools, I don't understand why more people aren't focusing on getting their results from the horses mouth so to speak.

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BIG Mike Drunken Greek War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 9,632 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1,847 Thanked 3,671 Times in 1,070 Posts	Re: What's your baseline for number of searches? I've always found the Google Keywords Tool to be the most accurate by far...and I prefer an average search volume of anywhere in the neighborhood of 800 to 100 or more. Google's average monthly search volumes are accurate and applicable to far more than Adwords. And adding to the credibility of it's accuracy is the very idea that it's provided for advertisers. Do you really think Google is going to risk falsifying data used to drive the most profitable aspect of their business? I have to disagree with everyone who thinks that any 3rd party tool could be anything more than educated guesswork, because to the best of my knowledge, none of the search engines share out their data with any of them. Even back in the days of Overture, you were focusing on a statistically inaccurate search volume based on Yahoo, with a very small market share, compared to Google. I used to run an algorithm based on Overture data, weighting by marketshare and other factors I won't mention that did a fairly good job, but it was still largely guesswork. Since I began using Google's Keyword Tool exclusively, my results have been dead on accurate and the ensuing traffic supports that me. Given the disparities I've seen from other keyword tools, I don't understand why more people aren't focusing on getting their results from the horses mouth so to speak.