Bum Marketing method?

13 years ago

Yes it works, and you'll earn handsome money with neo techniques. But I don't do bum marketing at the moment since it doesn't give me sufficient results due to the effort.

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benbro

13 years ago

I use it, it works albeit sometimes very slowly. To get the best results though it helps to mix it up with video and other forms of content outside of just articles.

Have watched one of the pages Ive been working on steadily climb from page 10 to page 2-in 2 months. So it's definitely not bad. What I like the most about it is that the benefits usually last long after you've done the work.

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Vincenzo Oliva

13 years ago

I'm sensing article writing is in the decline with the advent of video sharing and social media content. Google panda also makes it a bit more challenging to rank articles unless you have an original epic with authority backlinks.

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Zack Sprague 13 years ago

Oh okay neo techniques? And im just starting to get into bum marketing!
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Troy_Phillips

13 years ago

The true Bum method no longer works for the fact very few .. if any, directories let you straight link anymore. That was one of the selling points of the system .. no website needed.

Article marketing will always work. If you know how to do the keyword research and competition analysis you can still find yourself on Google one rank one in 24 hours or less.

Troy

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Zack Sprague 13 years ago

Then im going to need a new system :O
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- Troy_Phillips 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by flatbro94
  
  Then im going to need a new system :O
  
  Not really .. you just need to tweak your system. It is almost 1 am here but if you will check on here tomorrow I promise to do a thread that will explain successful article marketing ... how it is done today.
  
  Article Marketing is not slow as many want you to believe. So many try to rank for that 2500 a day keyword instead of ranking three easier keywords(in one article) that can easily get you 1200 a day without much of a fight.
  
  Learning to stay relative from step one until completion, knowing what weapons to take to the fight, and what fights to stay away from is key.
  
  Okay ... more on this tomorrow.. the oldfart is ready for bed
  
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Targeted Traffic

13 years ago

I think Google's latest algorithm change does create the fall of BUM Marketing...

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Zara Marie

13 years ago

Originally Posted by flatbro94

Does anyone still use this method til this day and if so is it any good or bad? And any success stories?

What is bum marketing? Sorry but I am not familiar with this. Or maybe I am like I know the process, but not with how marketing people calls it. :confused:

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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

I've noticed in this forum that ...

(i) people using the expression "Bum Marketing" are doing so with two distinctly different meanings;

(ii) their incidence is about 50/50;

(iii) both groups think that "they're right" and that others using the phrase differently from them are "wrong".

It's worth knowing this, because it helps to interpret what would otherwise be many instances of people talking at cross-purposes.

Half the people discussing this are referring to "direct-linking only" (i.e. not having a site at all, not even a one-page blog, in-between the article and the intended promotion/hoplink/whatever), and the other half are referring to directing the traffic to their own little site (with/without trying to build a list there).

The "original" version of Bum Marketing, from Travis (who often posts here, and may well see this thread and reply himself, by the way

), I think, referred to "no website"/"direct-linking". I think we can all agree that, to put it mildly, that was certainly a lot easier 5 years ago than it is now. (Not because of any prohibitions on direct-linking: those are easily circumvented by redirecting the link through a redirected domain-name, of course).

It depends what you're selling/promoting, though: clearly one's far more likely to be successful with it for CPA offers than for selling Clickbank products, say.

Having your own website (even if it's a one-page blog) is so easy, these days, that it's difficult to see much "advantage" in not building an asset-based business, rather than simply doing a constant "rinse-and-repeat" and depending on other people's sites for your traffic. So in that sense, the question's now become a little "academic", perhaps.

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Zack Sprague 13 years ago

Well i do love the bum marketing system but i dont have a website or blog to promote it on and i probaly wouldnt even get traffic on there?
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Troy_Phillips

13 years ago

As usual .. Alexa hits a home run.

Travis' Bum Marketing is still very relevant with just minor tweaks. Anyone who really followed his plan saw some degree of success. There are very few programs that has been around as long as BM that can still teach a lot of tactics that are relevant today.

Alexa mentions a web presence and I have discussed a few times with her a shared belief in making sure the buck always stops on your own little piece of the internet.

She is 100% correct in saying a redirect can handle any direct linking problems. Even something as simple as a 307.

In reality .. to gain the redirect .. you are more than likely getting a domain name .. why not put a WP blog on it and through the use of a no-follow .. make sure the buck stops at your domain?

We read about the need for reseller accounts and dedicated servers and I wouldn't want to do with out mine ... but at the same time .. $4.95 a month shared hosting from the gator can sustain a pretty decent sized online business.

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

I've noticed in this forum that ...

(i) people using the expression "Bum Marketing" are doing so with two distinctly different meanings;

(ii) their incidence is about 50/50;

(iii) both groups think that "they're right" and that others using the phrase differently from them are "wrong".

It's worth knowing this, because it helps to interpret what would otherwise be many instances of people talking at cross-purposes.

Half the people discussing this are referring to "direct-linking only" (i.e. not having a site at all, not even a one-page blog, in-between the article and the intended promotion/hoplink/whatever), and the other half are referring to directing the traffic to their own little site (with/without trying to build a list there).

The "original" version of Bum Marketing, from Travis (who often posts here, and may well see this thread and reply himself, by the way

), I think, referred to "no website"/"direct-linking". I think we can all agree that, to put it mildly, that was certainly a lot easier 5 years ago than it is now. (Not because of any prohibitions on direct-linking: those are easily circumvented by redirecting the link through a redirected domain-name, of course).

It depends what you're selling/promoting, though: clearly one's far more likely to be successful with it for CPA offers than for selling Clickbank products, say.

Having your own website (even if it's a one-page blog) is so easy, these days, that it's difficult to see much "advantage" in not building an asset-based business, rather than simply doing a constant "rinse-and-repeat" and depending on other people's sites for your traffic. So in that sense, the question's now become a little "academic", perhaps.

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redrabbitt67

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

It depends what you're selling/promoting, though: clearly one's far more likely to be successful with it for CPA offers than for selling Clickbank products, say

Why do you say that Clickbank products will be less successful with article marketing?

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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by redrabbitt67

Why do you say that Clickbank products will be less successful with article marketing?

I didn't say that. That's exactly how I make a living, myself, so it would be a very strange thing for me to have said!

I said that direct-linking (which is what 50% of the people here mean by "bum marketing", as explained in post #11) is a less successful way to try to sell ClickBank products (than, for example, it might be for CPA). Which it is. And that's putting it really mildly.

Making any "real money" from selling ClickBank products is, broadly, about three main things:-

(i) You have to select products wisely;

(ii) You have to pre-sell effectively to well-targeted traffic;

(iii) You have to build a list and form relationships with the people on it, so that they'll buy on the strength of your recommendation.

These things aren't optional: you really do need to do all three of them, otherwise you're probably chasing 10% of the possible money and ignoring the other 90%.

People buy ClickBank products because they trust someone's recommendation. They buy on the strength of your relationship with them, built through your website and your autoresponder emails to your list subscribers. You can't do that by direct-linking.

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redrabbitt67

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

I didn't say that. That's exactly how I make a living, myself, so it would be a very strange thing for me to have said!

I said that direct-linking (which is what 50% of the people here mean by "bum marketing", as explained in post #11) is a less successful way to try to sell ClickBank products (than, for example, it might be for CPA). Which it is. And that's putting it really mildly.

Thanks, Alexa, for the explanation. I just got canceled as an Amazon affiliate because I live in Connecticut, and the state just passed the sales tax law; so Amazon canceled their affiliates.

Now I want/need/have to concentrate more on Clickbank, and your comment was a little unnerving.

I just copy/pasted your outline to use as a focus for my Clickbank program. Truth be told, I haven't been effectively doing all of the things you suggested.

I don't believe that article marketing is dead; we just need to kick it up a notch with higher quality content.

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cody123 13 years ago

Hi Flatbro:

I had bought the Bum Marketing program about 2 years ago, but article marketing has taken a serious beating as a result of social media, video and content distribution.

If you write quality, value-packed articles, your best bet is to submit them to high-profile blog for possible publication. That's a very powerful way to not only drive traffic to your site, but to position yourself as an expert in your field.

Also, why not use snippets of your articles as Tweets or Facebook Notes and then close out the snippet with "to view the rest of this article, please click here" with a link to your blog?

There are many other ways to distribute your content that are far more effective than article marketing.

Is it still effective, yes it is, but compared to the power of social media and guest blogging, trying to get ranked with article marketing is like challenging a one-legged man to an ass kicking contest.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by redrabbitt67

Thanks, Alexa, for the explanation. I just got canceled as an Amazon affiliate because I live in Connecticut, and the state just passed the sales tax law; so Amazon canceled their affiliates.

Major bummer ... have been reading a little about this, here, recently. It sounds as if further states may be involved, too?

Originally Posted by redrabbitt67

I don't believe that article marketing is dead; we just need to kick it up a notch with higher quality content.

I agree completely.

Article marketing is far from dead.

Since Google's dreaded "Panda update", there've been about 100 threads here asking "Is Article Marketing Dead?" and all of them contain posts from professional article marketers saying how much we welcome Google's algorithm change because kicking so many article directory listings off the first page of the SERP's has made it that much easier for us to rank our own sites.

People who were depending on article directories for traffic aren't so happy, but their business model has been more or less defunct for a year or two that I know of (and I suspect for longer than that). But that isn't article marketing, of course - that's only article directory marketing.

Originally Posted by cody123

article marketing has taken a serious beating as a result of social media, video and content distribution.

It absolutely hasn't, Lori. :rolleyes:

Article marketing is entirely unaffected by all those things. (I think you're thinking of article directory marketing? That hasn't really been a viable business model for a long time

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Originally Posted by cody123

trying to get ranked with article marketing is like challenging a one-legged man to an ass kicking contest.

Countless professional article marketers here have been very consistently reporting exactly the opposite, in recent months.

It's gradually becoming easier for us to get our articles ranked, not more difficult. Google's last update/algorithm change was particularly helpful to many of us (as explained just above, by getting the article directory copies out of our way and helping us to rank the original copies of our articles on our own sites), and we're hoping - and trusting - there's "more on the way".

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JWatson

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

I've noticed in this forum that ...

(i) people using the expression "Bum Marketing" are doing so with two distinctly different meanings;

(ii) their incidence is about 50/50;

(iii) both groups think that "they're right" and that others using the phrase differently from them are "wrong".

Really? Umm...I thought (ii) and (iii) applied to everything here.

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Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by JWatson

Really? Umm...I thought (ii) and (iii) applied to everything here.

It's a post for recycling: one can take out the words "bum marketing" and paste in various other little expressions, according to the occasion ...
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goldbear 11 years ago

Alexa,
As always, really concise, to the point and clearly written. I always enjoy reading your comments.
All the best,
Dr. Mike
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Danceraaq1

13 years ago

Hello all, when I started the BMM a year ago I had no money at all to spare on IM so I had to use it and it worked. The articles I wrote last year are still making me money. If you follow Travis' techniques as he set them out in the introductory PDF on BMM, you will make money. That was how I started with IM actually. I had no clue about anything when I started except that PDF on BMM. I have my own blogs now (paid) but I still use the BMM basic technique on my blogs if that makes sense.

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Stephen Adams

13 years ago

Bum marketing didn't work for me at all. I gave a bum $5 to hold up a sign at walmart with a link to a email submit offer. Didn't convert very well. I guess a bum holding up a sign that says "will work for food" and underneath that sign there's another sign that says "Free Iphone" go to www ....... People just weren't buying it, either that or he tossed the sign as soon as i drove off

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Zara Marie

13 years ago

It still confuses me. Anyway, thanks for trying to explain Bum Marketing.

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xixi12

13 years ago

Bum marketing still works, but you need to put in an extra effort compared to how it was used in the previous years. If you have no money to invest, then it is your best bet for now- but article writing can be very tidious, so you may want to mix it up a bit with some video marketing on youtube - i must say its really easy to rank on youtube even with this google panda revolution

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The Wizard

13 years ago

Try it in conjunction with other methods. You will soon find which works best for you.

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sscot 13 years ago

Originally Posted by The Wizard

Try it in conjunction with other methods. You will soon find which works best for you.

What are those other methods?
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simonbuzz

Banned 13 years ago

This method works great....

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anthony2

13 years ago

Originally Posted by flatbro94

Does anyone still use this method til this day and if so is it any good or bad? And any success stories?

Bum marketing as an article marketing still works but its
takes more work now than it did before. Especially with
the google update.

Also it took sometime to see some meaningful results now
it can take alot longer.

If you are going to do some free marketing methods like
article marketing then i think you should also add one paid
marketing method like Solo Ads. Doing this will allow you
to see traffic and leads go through your funnel while you
wait for the traffic to kick in from the articles.

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speedylikesKJ 13 years ago

WHy not go on your own way .. Discover your own method you learn alot
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cryst

13 years ago

i never heard about bumm marketing but it sounds really good ... need to try out on one of my niche website....

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theory expert

Banned 13 years ago

What a shame this thread died. I believe when newbies come in here asking, "where to start" or "how to make money", they need to go straight to learning bum marketing because many of them have zero - little to start with,(I assume zero dollars, but, they are too scared to say so). I wish others would have contributed with methods for bum marketing.

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AlexisMoore 13 years ago

Bum marketing was the first thing I ever tried. I was not successful with it, but I think that's because I was doing a lot of things the wrong way. So maybe I can tell you what NOT to do!

I tried to do some lenses on Sqidoo. I was obviously not doing something right with them because they totally flopped. My content was decent, but there was something wrong in my set up. In retrospect, I wish I could have just gotten someone to take a look at it.

I got sick of waiting for EZA to accept my articles, and I was pretty clueless about where else to go (I've heard EZA is quicker about things now).

I wasn't in any forums, and I was basically guessing at what to do with no one to guide me. I think if I had joined this forum at that time I could have done a lot better just by learning from those around me.

Overall, I just got too impatient. I found out later that you have to wait for the best results to happen, and maybe I backed out too soon.

This was all several years ago, and if people are still talking about it today, it seems as though it would at least be worth a try.
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celente

13 years ago

yes article marketing is not as good as it once was, but all these people that keep saying it is dead, is giving me and my 1000+ articles a lot less competition. LOL.

Bring it on i say. Bring it on!!! lol.

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jumpjumper

13 years ago

It only work on ezine for me but its very time consuming. Theres faster ways of making money.

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theory expert Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by jumpjumper

It only work on ezine for me but its very time consuming. Theres faster ways of making money.

Of course there are faster ways, but, are those ways online, and, are those ways required without one penny to start up.
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- glinda2011 13 years ago
  
  BUM marketing method? yes it's good but why not use other marketing methods that is fast and effective.
  
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- kinghelmi 13 years ago
  
  Instead of saying what to do to be successful in article marketing, let me share one of my article for feedback. Read it and click the links within my article to check out my landing page, and comeback here to share your thoughts.
  
  Since I don't have 15 or greater post here, it's impossible to include direct link to my article, so instead, what you can do is go to streetarticles.com and use their search box to look for my article titled: A Little Mistake That Cost A Fan Hundreds Over Dollars for Someday Perfume.
  
  Why I share my article/s with you?
  Because I think although sharing ideas on what works or what might work is great, I think it is wonderful if we should also have articles that we can study, similar to studying the patterns of successful people; their characteristic.
  
  These articles then would give some ideas to work on, but if these article were to be rewritten, please do so with highest respect, gratitude and responsible manner.
  
  We all want to escape ourselves from the normalities of 9 to 5
  
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indie08

13 years ago

Bum marketing just doesn't work like it used to..I personally build 7-10 page mini amazon sites with great content..then make a video for each post and try to rank my videos as well. This is what works for me!

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opalfx

11 years ago

i miss bum marketing. those were the days.

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