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Hi,

I am bit confused by this.

Is it right that you build your micro niche site, then write an article on squidoo which has link back to your site?

But an article I was just reading says that he then promoted his squidoo link by writing articles and linking back to it, but thought you wrote articles and linked back to your main site?

Sorry if this is silly question, just new and trying to learn, and failing I think
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  • Profile picture of the author billhicks1982
    Also, can you re-publish an article on squidoo that is already on your site, or stick to 100% unique.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by billhicks1982 View Post

      But an article I was just reading says that he then promoted his squidoo link by writing articles and linking back to it, but thought you wrote articles and linked back to your main site?
      A lot of people do strange things.

      Don't imagine that all the "internet marketing advice" you see is sensible or reasonable.

      Some people like building backlinks to other people's sites for them. It happens in article marketing, as well: there are people (not many, but a few) who imagine that it's a good idea to build backlinks to an article directory rather than simply to their own sites. :rolleyes:

      Originally Posted by billhicks1982 View Post

      Sorry if this is silly question, just new and trying to learn, and failing I think
      On the contrary, it's a far from silly question: it suggests that perhaps you understand a little more than the person whose article you were reading, giving that advice. At the very least, you knew that it was right to question it.

      Originally Posted by billhicks1982 View Post

      Also, can you re-publish an article on squidoo that is already on your site, or stick to 100% unique.
      I can't remember now, sorry (others who can remember will reply!). They keep changing the rules. This is what happens when you use websites you don't own: you're totally dependent on their changeable terms of service, policies and procedures, and you don't own and control the site yourself, and you can never tell what might happen.

      I'm not suggesting that Squidoo's useless, just that you probably shouldn't be using it for any more than "a part of your backlinking strategy" (it can be good for that).

      For myself, I certainly wouldn't be willing to give them previously unpublished content: I write that for my sites, not for anyone else's.
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      • Profile picture of the author billhicks1982
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post


        I'm not suggesting that Squidoo's useless, just that you probably shouldn't be using it for any more than "a part of your backlinking strategy" (it can be good for that).

        For myself, I certainly wouldn't be willing to give them previously unpublished content: I write that for my sites, not for anyone else's.
        Thanks, Alexa, right now I am trying to learn about promoting the site and how to get backlinks, seems the hardest part for me, so far I have writing articles and commenting on similiar niche blog posts, but thats it

        When you say you do not give them original articles, does that mean you just submit articles you have already written on your blog? Don't some require original content only (like ezine?).

        Not sure whether to say write 5 articles for my site, then 5 articles for article submission sites, or just aubmit what I have wrote on my site?
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by billhicks1982 View Post

          Don't some require original content only (like ezine?).
          No. EZA does not require previously unpublished content, and never has done.

          Article directories don't.

          I have over 1,300 articles in EZA, all of which were originally published (in identical form) on my own sites first. As explained here.

          Originally Posted by billhicks1982 View Post

          Not sure whether to say write 5 articles for my site, then 5 articles for article submission sites, or just aubmit what I have wrote on my site?
          Bill ... you're confused between "article submission sites" and "article directories". I was just replying to your comment here.

          An article directory (like EZA) is a site which exists as a depository of content freely available for webmasters and ezine compilers to syndicate. This is totally different from the purpose and function of sites like Squidoo and HubPages.
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  • Profile picture of the author B.Smit
    Originally Posted by billhicks1982 View Post

    Is it right that you build your micro niche site, then write an article on squidoo which has link back to your site?

    But an article I was just reading says that he then promoted his squidoo link by writing articles and linking back to it, but thought you wrote articles and linked back to your main site?
    You can, and should do both. That is, write articles you can post on your Squidoo lens that point to your site, as well as write (preferably fresh) articles to promote your Squidoo lens. I'm not too clued up on this, but it's part of what those in the know call a "link wheel"

    Originally Posted by billhicks1982 View Post

    Also, can you re-publish an article on squidoo that is already on your site, or stick to 100% unique.
    Yes, you can, but of course it's always better to use different but related content. Better for the user/reader, and probably better for SEO as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author billhicks1982
      Originally Posted by B.Smit View Post

      You can, and should do both. That is, write articles you can post on your Squidoo lens that point to your site, as well as write (preferably fresh) articles to promote your Squidoo lens. I'm not too clued up on this, but it's part of what those in the know call a "link wheel"

      Thankyou.

      If/When I start doing this it is only going to be part time as I also work full time, just not sure if I will have the time to write articles for the main site, then articles to promote the main site, then articles for squidoo and articles to promote squidoo lens.

      Seems like it will take up a hell of a lot of time.
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  • Profile picture of the author billhicks1982
    haha, yes, am bit confused, replied on the other topic

    Thanks for taking time to try and help me, though sometimes i think i am beyond help
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by billhicks1982 View Post

      Thanks for taking time to try and help me, though sometimes i think i am beyond help
      Far from it. Unlike many people would have done, you knew that the information you read in that article about building backlinks to other people's sites was, at least, "questionable", and you were absolutely right ... because that makes very little sense (even though some people do it).

      I replied in detail here, so I won't repeat it all here too; hope it helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author kevinw1
    Bill, Squidoo has tightened up the rules about duplicate content recently and your content should be unique.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brian E Adams
    Yes, building reinforcing links to your Squidoo lens is a smart strategy. Google recognizes that most link building is on one level. People only build links direct to their main site. It does help to reinforce your links. Build links to your links. This is also the link wheel concept. It's much more work to do this so I recommend using automated tools to get your links a boost.
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    • Profile picture of the author adamj2
      I would not write articles specifically for squidoo or other Web 2.0 sites/article directories at the expense of writing new quality content on your blog.

      You can take your blog post and manually rewrite it to make it unique and put it on squidoo and link back to your site.

      For article directories you can just re-publish it exactly as it is, but I think the Web 2.0 sites are more fussy about having the content unique.

      With Web 2.0 sites, I like to get a bit of a link wheel going (to promote my main website) and have a link on various web 2.0 sites back to my website, and then link each of these web 2.0 sites together.

      Kind of like:

      hubpage > wordpress > blogspot > squidoo

      With 2 links on each one: 1 link to your main website and 1 link to the next web 2.0 site in the wheel. Apart from the last site in the wheel, which just has a link back to your website.

      And use the same keyword anchor text for all the links in the wheel and try to include that same keyword in the title of each page as well.

      And then for article directories you can just re-publish your original blog post (already published on your website first) in its original form.

      So don't write one-set of articles for your blog and then another set of articles for directories/web 2.0 sites. Just re-use your original blog article elsewhere (maybe with a bit of manual re-writing if a web 2.0 site) once indexed on your own site.
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    • Profile picture of the author lcombs
      But, that's only the begining.

      You then bookmark each page to as many bookmarking sites as possible.

      And, you ping each page. I recommend Pingler.

      And to really CRUSH it, you then promote the promoters by using the same system for each page in the first set.

      Can you say "Outsourcing"?
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      • Profile picture of the author blueonblue
        Originally Posted by lcombs View Post

        But, that's only the begining.

        You then bookmark each page to as many bookmarking sites as possible.

        And, you ping each page. I recommend Pingler.

        And to really CRUSH it, you then promote the promoters by using the same system for each page in the first set.

        Can you say "Outsourcing"?
        you have my site and then wp in one method. What if your site is a wp blog?
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Huddleston
    Even if you never get much traffic from a lens you still get a backlink. A lens has to be promoted as well as a website does. You have to include it in your comments or posts. Even in your forum signatue. If you are targetting a certain keyword you have to make as much noise as possable. Hopefully you have chossen a keyword that is moderatly easy to rank for or you may give up. So pick a keyword that is easy and then go from there.
    The part about Squidoo that is cool is it allows you to put your Youtube videos and pull RSS feeds from your blog posts. Which in turn creates more noise (links) for the search engines to pick up. It is a long and tough battle. Everone is trying to get a piece of that top 10 results in Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author dmor71
    Try this. Skip using Squidoo as your "middleman" and use it as your money site and treat it as such by using only unique content. The reason I say use squidoo as a money site because I have found for some reason that a squidoo lens converts much better than a website.

    Not only that, Squidoo sends me money every month for just sending the traffic to the lens. Generally I get about $10 a lens plus the conversions if I'm promoting a product.

    Squidoo already has some great positioning in the search engines and it's very easy to get a lens to rank well with just a few UAW submissions and couple of fiverr gigs. They seem to stick at the top too once you get them there. I have actually started to mask domains for squidoo lenses for the really tough niches and this is crazy effective.

    An added benefit is that you never have to pay hosting costs and you can easily build 10 lenses a week if you wanted to. The key is to do your keyword research as if you are making adsense sites. Only put an affiliate product on there if it makes sense. I can tell you first hand that you can make an absolute killing with squidoo and an UAW account.
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    • Profile picture of the author blueonblue
      what is a uaw submission?
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  • Profile picture of the author dmor71
    UAW is Unique Article Wizard. It's a great network of websites and articles directories that you can submit your articles to. It's a complete system that is able to give you a good solid 300 to 400 backlinks with each submission. I have always been a big fan and actually offer a very affordable service to submit your articles if you don't want to shell out the $67 per month. Just follow my signature link for the article marketing service.
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