Good Processes Rock, Broken Processes Leak. Two Examples Given. You Might Learn, or You Might Help.

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This post is about processes and how they can help (or harm) your business. I'm guessing this will be most useful to those just starting to realize some success, but it may also give newbies a different way to look at things that could help them. You veteran marketers probably won't learn anything, but you may be able to help me with a problem and do your good deed for the day.

What are processes?

There are many kinds of processes, but for the purpose of this discussion we're going to look at the process a customer goes through when they buy a product. A very basic process goes like this:

* customer arrives on your sales page
* customer reads sales letter and decides to buy your product
* customer pays and is redirected to the download page
* customer downloads the product and lives happily ever after

Of course, there are many variations on this basic process: upsells, downsells, one-time offers, free bonuses with built-in profit centers, etc.

I received two emails regarding the sales process for one of my products that gave me the idea to write this post. I won't post the entire content of the emails, just the parts relevant to the points I want to make. Both emails refer to the same product. Here's how this particular process is supposed to work:

* Customer buys the product
* Customer is redirected to the download page automatically by Paypal
* Customer downloads product and reads my one-time offer and decide whether or not to buy

Now, one email I received included this comment:
Dennis, you're too good at one-time offers. I couldn't resist buying [the OTO product].
I edited out the name of the product so no one would think I'm trying to promote it with this post.

Obviously that process worked as intended. The customer bought, was redirected to the download page, and then bought the one-time offer product. About 40% of my customers who are redirected to the download page for this product buy the one-time offer. I'm happy with that. That's how a good process can help your business. It means extra sales immediately, and happy customers who will often buy from you again and again as long as the products deliver on the promise.

Sometimes processes break down though. This can be bad for your business because the customer is upset. If they're upset they may not buy from you again. They may tell others. They may request a refund before you get a chance to make things right. The other email I received had this comment in it:
Dennis, I bought [product] from you and didn't get the download. This is the second time that's happened.
My process is broken for this customer. It happens about 4-5 percent of the time with Paypal transactions. I think it happens because a customer's browser security settings prevent the redirect to the download page from occurring. When that happens, Paypal has a link on their page that reads "Return to merchant," and clicking that link will take the customer to the download page (if you set it up when you generated the Paypal code). Customers often click away without finding that link though.

When this happens the customer usually emails me about not gettting the download. Most are nice, a few are not. Either way, I send them an email with a link to the download page. The conversion rate for the OTO drops significantly with these customers. It's around 20 percent, so basically I lose half of my OTO sales for those who experience a broken process. Plus, if you provide customer service and support personally, customer service for a broken process takes time away from other things you could be doing.

A broken process also reduces the chance for future sales with that customer. Fortunately with this customer, he liked my first product enough to buy from me again. That will not happen with everyone, and there's no way of knowing how many sales a broken process will cost you.

Since this only happens about 4-5 percent of the time (in my experience) many marketers would look at the 95-96 percent of customers who experience the process as the marketer intended and feel good about it. They may blame the customer when the process doesn't work, or just consider it part of doing business.

Blaming the customer isn't a useful way to look at it, IMO. You set up the process. If it doesn't work for some of your customers, that's on you. You can call it an acceptable negative if you like, and ignore the problem, but it's still a leak in your process that will cost you time and money, and perhaps reputation.

It can be useful to think of marketing in terms of processes rather than in individual chunks. Of course, any amount of complexity can be added to a process, but at it's core marketing is really very simple:

- Find what people want or need
- Create a product that fulfills that want or need
- Put your offer in front of those who want or need it.

Do that and you'll make sales. Do it well and you'll make lots of sales consistently.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of leaky processes out there. I have one I want to fix, and that leads me to the last part of this post...

Have you solved this particular leak?

I tried the easy fix, by adding a note to my Add to Cart sales box instructing people to click the Return to merchant link if they aren't redirected to the download page. That helped, but didn't completely solve the problem. I should have known it wouldn't, but I was hoping for an easy and fast solution.

I've bought products through Paypal where an email gets sent to the customer with download instructions. I can do that with the sales that go through my DLGuard installation, but I don't want to set up DLGuard on every site (expensive) and I don't want to run all my sales through a central site (if that site goes down, all my sales processes would be broken).

If you sell through Paypal and have an email automatically sent with the download link, how do you do it? Is 3rd party software required, or is there a way to set up an automated email within Paypal for each individual product? How have you solved this problem?

Until recently I've always sold through my own merchant account so I'm not that familiar with all the options Paypal offers. I'm switching to Paypal because so many customers expect it, and I'll use my merchant account as a backup.

Any questions, or advice?
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    Have you tried e-junkie? It's really simple to use, but it costs a little each month (like $5/month to list 10 products)
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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by AYoungMillionaire View Post

      Have you tried e-junkie? It's really simple to use, but it costs a little each month (like $5/month to list 10 products)
      No, I haven't tried it. I went with Paypal because it seems customers expect that option nowadays. Also, I have something like 50 products and more on the way. I'd really prefer keeping things simple for my customers. I don't want to have to funnel them through e-junkie and Paypal.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shaun OReilly
    Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

    If you sell through Paypal and have an email automatically sent with the download link, how do you do it? Is 3rd party software required, or is there a way to set up an automated email within Paypal for each individual product? How have you solved this problem?
    As a former Mechanical Engineer, I'm pretty process
    oriented and look for improvements wherever possible.

    I use Rapid Action Profits by fellow Warrior Sid Hale:

    Rapid Action Profits (no affil.)

    It works pretty well and you can install it on unlimited
    domains to process your transactions via PayPal.

    (Plus it has the added advantage of having a built-in
    affiliate program that pays affiliates instantly via PayPal).

    Rapid Action Profits also allows you to insert a graphic
    image on the PayPal checkout screen where you can
    remind people to click on the Return to Merchant button
    after payment.

    For example:


    Or...



    Or, you can create your own image to encourage people to
    click the Return to Merchant button.

    I hope that helps you.

    Dedicated to mutual success,

    Shaun
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Thanks, Shaun. I actually own RAP already but didn't know it could do that. I must admit, I haven't taken the time to learn to install it yet, let alone use it. Know of any tutorials or how to videos for it?
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    • Profile picture of the author Shaun OReilly
      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      Thanks, Shaun. I actually own RAP already but didn't know it could do that. I must admit, I haven't taken the time to learn to install it yet, let alone use it. Know of any tutorials or how to videos for it?
      There's some video tutorials for RAP here:

      Rapid Action Videos (no affil.)

      Also, there's a great forum for RAP members where you
      can get specific questions answered quickly:

      Rapid Action Profits - Index (no affil.)

      And there's always Sid Hale's support desk if you need
      more individual help. I've found his support to be excellent:

      Help - Powered By The 'Three Pillars' Support Desk System (no affil.)

      Dedicated to mutual success,

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    • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
      YOU WHAT ???

      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      Thanks, Shaun. I actually own RAP already but didn't know it could do that. I must admit, I haven't taken the time to learn to install it yet, let alone use it. Know of any tutorials or how to videos for it?
      Dennis,

      I would have thought that you had been around long enough, to know that buying shelfware is just like throwing money out the window.

      Anyway, before you get started, hit me up at the Help Desk for an updated copy. Your license is from Dec. 2009 and we've added a lot of new features since then.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Much obliged, Shaun. I picked it up long ago but wasn't able to use it right away. This should help.

    Hey, you got two thanks from me in one thread. You're on a roll!
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