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altavista

13 years ago

try to double it up atleast the pages and i hope it will work

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Amanda Craven

13 years ago

You can't just upload a PDF to Kindle - your book needs to be formatted correctly in what is a basic form of HTML. You can find information on how to do this at Amazon's Digital Text Platform website but, if I were you, I would invest in one of the many courses on here on publishing to Kindle as there is quite a lot involved.

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Kay King 13 years ago

Obviously, first I'll just have to find a good niche, then get PLR content or write on my own

PLR on Kindle is being tossed out - too much crap and even Kindle is beginning to realize that. Take some time to learn about the process and then start writing.
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- research 13 years ago
  
  It seems to me that many would be ebook publishers and digital information product producers have been misled regarding the entry and potential of publishing Kindle ebooks to market on Amazon.
  
  Look at this thread to see how things are going . . .
  
  http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...UVAQrZmAG2d0Ao
  
  Right now . . . the future is not so bright.
  
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Anish

13 years ago

Originally Posted by research

It seems to me that many would be ebook publishers and digital information product producers have been misled regarding the entry and potential of publishing Kindle ebooks to market on Amazon.

Look at this thread to see how things are going . . .

Kindle ebook is either undifferentiated or barely differentiated

Right now . . . the future is not so bright.

Gee. I was told some time ago that same-old PLR content was allowed in Kindle but I was quite doubtful if they'd accept it.. Well, that clears the doubt, thanks for the link.

From what I see, its the publishers looking for quick-easy money are being affected, and since I like to look at the positives, I'd consider it a good thing - LOTS of (low quality) competition eliminated

So I fully agree with cosmokid on that.

(But you can always outsource original content creation anyway

For just about $5*30 = $150, you can have a 100% original eBook with 30 high quality articles! )

Originally Posted by Amanda Craven

You can't just upload a PDF to Kindle - your book needs to be formatted correctly in what is a basic form of HTML. You can find information on how to do this at Amazon's Digital Text Platform website but, if I were you, I would invest in one of the many courses on here on publishing to Kindle as there is quite a lot involved.

well, okay. Thanks for your suggestion. I'll look for a decent course.

Speaking of it, which Kindle course would you guys recommend, if any? I need something that'll help me fully understand how I can generate big bucks using it.. And yes, I did search but there just seem too many options to choose from!

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GameVoid

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Anish

Gee. I was told some time ago that same-old PLR content was allowed in Kindle but I was quite doubtful if they'd accept it.. Well, that clears the doubt, thanks for the link.

Used to be. Those days are apparently coming to a happy end.

From what I see, its the publishers looking for quick-easy money are being affected, and since I like to look at the positives, I'd consider it a good thing - LOTS of (low quality) competition eliminated

So I fully agree with cosmokid on that.

(But you can always outsource original content creation anyway

For just about $5*30 = $150, you can have a 100% original eBook with 30 high quality articles! )

Remember that people can see into a Kindle book before they buy it. Those 30 articles better be good and not "SEO Article" quality. It literally takes two clicks to get a refund on a kindle purchase if you even make the sale.

Speaking of it, which Kindle course would you guys recommend, if any? I need something that'll help me fully understand how I can generate big bucks using it.. And yes, I did search but there just seem too many options to choose from!

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Write a good book.
Format it well.
Promote it.
Don't act surprised when large amounts of easy cash don't materialize.

Publishing on Kindle is just like anything else in IM. If you go with a popular topic you have a ton of competition. If you go with a less popular topic competition might be lower but so will sales.

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Rose Anderson

13 years ago

Decide if you want to sell people one book or build a reputation for high-quality products and have them return to buy more. Also, remember they can leave comments after they've made their purchase.

If you want to build a long-term business with returning customers don't use rehased PLR or 20 articles stuck together and call it a book.

Ed Lewis has a good product on publishing with kindle.

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kevinw1

13 years ago

Paul Coleman's "Kindle Revolutions" is the best of the ones I have bought. But you should follow Kindle-related postings here and on the Kindle forums to keep up with changes in what's allowed and what isn't.

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Robert Boduch 13 years ago

Some of the early adopters of the PLR publishing format on Kindle have produced impressive results, generating $6000 monthly checks - and more. And the more established of these publishers may very well continue to prosper.

But for new folks just entering the arena - the game has changed and will likely continue to change in the future.

It's just so darned easy to publish on Kindle and with the volume of PLR available, I can see how tempting it might be. But now that Amazon is monitoring submissions more closely, you probably can't use PLR as you once could on Kindle. You'll need to modify it to create your own publication and yes -- this means work for you.

Another option is to create your own quality content, build your brand and attract repeat buyers, as Rose Anderson suggests. One approach I'm testing is to create concise publications (like special reports) on specific topics, since Kindle accepts "books" of virtually any size. Then I can take those that sell best and develop them into larger volumes at higher prices.

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celente

13 years ago

Originally Posted by kevinw1

Paul Coleman's "Kindle Revolutions" is the best of the ones I have bought. But you should follow Kindle-related postings here and on the Kindle forums to keep up with changes in what's allowed and what isn't.

Actually purchased that myself. I have a retired well known publisher / writer here in OZ I am working with her, and together about to launch a book on kindle. So far its created massive amounts of attention, and we are no where near lauching or finished the book. Hope it goes well but. LOL.

But I see that kindle is very angry with the crap that gets posted there, I would like to ask them, what? you didnt see it coming or something? LOL. Just another great place to spam I recon. But they are already starting to tighten up the reigns.

Just stick to the protcols and terms and conditions layed out and you will be fine!

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rickfrazier1 13 years ago

Kindle is a different platform, and there are some things that make it hard for people to get a handle on.

First, kindle doesn't relate well to pages, nor to an index that has page numbers. That's because you can choose the font size you want from "too small" through a range of decent sizes to what seems like two words per line ("way too big"). Thus the concept of page numbers is pretty much gone. When reading a Kindle title, you have a little bar at the bottom that gives you the percentage you are at, not a page number. It makes more sense given the way text works on Kindle.

Pictures on Kindle are a "whole 'nuther thing", so to speak. Old timers will remember notebooks with 16 level gray scale displays, and that's what Kindle has. Yep, it's black and white ("electronic paper") but only 16 levels of gray from white to pure black (at least with Kindle 2 and 3). The text is pure black, the background is white. Simple for text, but downright dreary for most pictures, if you don't format them properly. I always do the conversion from regular color (like a photograph) to monochrome (black and white) and choose the rendition so I get a good looking image that will display well on Kindle. If you submit your images as color, you get what the converter does, and can't tell what it looks like until you publish it... The display is incredibly crisp, and images properly formatted for it look great. The "screen saver" ones that display when it is turned off are really expressive, and I don't recall any of them actually being full gray scale. For an example of how monochrome can be stunning if handled right, look for some of Ansel Adam's work. He did some amazing things with a large format Black and White camera, especially in and around Yosemite.

PDFs don't work well on Kindle, first because they have fixed font sizes. I've downloaded a number of PDF files to my Kindle and with some, even changing the perspective to read in "landscape" mode with the Kindle on it's side, I can barely read the words. Pictures are usually horrid from a PDF due to the on-kindle conversion from color to monochrome. Unfortunately, I think Amazon let folks upload PDFs for awhile, so there are some titles that have these shortcomings. Now, I believe you have to use their input format (their instructions are very clear and easy to follow).

If you're at all serious about writing for Kindle, I suggest you buy one. You can download to it using the included USB cable and see what things will look like. Also, you will appreciate more some of the things you need to do as an author once you've experienced the potential shortcomings as a customer. (See the PDF and Picture comments in the paragraph above for some immediate examples.)

I've got a Kindle (thanks to my wife and a recent birthday) and the PC Kindle reader app, and another reader app on my Android Phone. Neither of the apps give you the same feeling as the real Kindle. Much of it's utility, but not the same feeling at all.

- Money to be made? Yes.
- Hard to find the right niche? Yes.
- Will Kindle titles sell themselves? Very few, you gotta promote your titles.
- Can you use PLR? Possibly, if you handle it correctly and can show right to use. Better if you create original work.
- What about Public Domain? Already tons of PD stuff there, for free or 0.99. Better to write a critique, synopsis, or comparison between two popular PD titles (Like Think and Grow Rich and another similar book.)

Look at the top 100 on Amazon... Notice that fiction seems to be the big seller, and most of this is from established "paper" publishers. Even a lot of the smaller niches and areas seem to have a lot of commercial support. That's not to say the independent like me or you can't get in and make some money, just that we need to be promoting ourselves and our titles along the way. In every book you write, put a link to at least another Kindle title you have. People that liked the one they just read will often buy the next one.
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JohnMcCabe

13 years ago

I have three things for you, Anish...

1. I've seen both Ed's and Paul's courses, and they're both very good, especially if you're starting from scratch.

2. Yes you can use graphics, but you have to size them properly. There's information on the DTP site with more info.

3. You won't have "pages" like you would with a PDF, so trying to cram a link at the bottom of each screen won't work. There's nothing wrong with including an 'author info' or 'resources' page and adding your link to that. Just don't get so carried away that the screeners at Kindle get the notion that the book is an excuse for the promo.

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handy

13 years ago

Publishing on Kindle is not enough - you need to market it for sales to take off.

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Anish

13 years ago

Aah. Thanks for so much useful information, guys. I have a lot clearer idea now.

rickfrazier1, thanks for taking time to clarify the things. I'll follow your advices.
JohnMcCabe, alright. I'm gonna go with Paul's course since it's had 3 votes in this thread.

Robert Boduch and Rose, repeat buyers indeed sounds like a good idea. It'll definitely be a great boost to credibility as well! Will try, thanks.

Kay, off to search and read more on Kindle. Laters!

Anish.

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Robert Boduch 13 years ago

Excellent points, Rick -- I absolutely agree.

The "magic" of Kindle is the large built-in audience of buyers and the ease of publishing there. But finding a profitable niche and unique slant is a huge challenge - just as it is in any other venue, including your own site and you'll likely have to sell your book for a lot less on Kindle to get any results.

It's hands-free selling and passive income once your publications are available in the Kindle marketplace. But unless you hit the bulls-eye... are extremely lucky... or you find an effective way to market your Kindle pubs... chances are you'll only sell a few copies to a few dozen of each book every month simply by publishing on the Kindle platform. And as Rick stated, fiction sales are predominantly the big winners right now.

If you can list a couple hundred books (like many of the PLR and Public Domain publishers have done) you could realistically expect several thousand dollar royalty checks.

But the game has changed and now you'll have to make each publication an original work. Finding new ways to recast, upgrade, twist, or otherwise modify PLR and Public Domain to add UNIQUE VALUE is one approach that could work, though it will take some time and effort.

Robert
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Willie Crawford

13 years ago

Every title that I've published to Kindle sold copies from
day 1 and continue to sell.

They are all my own writing, offer quality content, and
were quickly approved.

I encourage not taking shortcut, instead putting ebooks
on Kindle that will be in demand for a long time.

Willie

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rickfrazier1

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Willie Crawford

Every title that I've published to Kindle sold copies from
day 1 and continue to sell.

They are all my own writing, offer quality content, and
were quickly approved.

I encourage not taking shortcut, instead putting ebooks
on Kindle that will be in demand for a long time.

Willie

Willie's clearly got the right approach: unique, quality content he writes himself. Something I think we should all try to emulate.

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biz_online 12 years ago

Thanks Willie... But my problem with Kindle books has been marketing. I've done the press releases, but a week or two later sales trickle back down. I don't want to start using Google Adwords because in my opinion, Google is too expensive and unpredictable to incorporate into a long term, scaleable, marketing plan. ... your thoughts?
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Home Easy Earn

13 years ago

You can use PLR on Amazon Kindle if you do it in the correct way. First you need to rewrite the PLR product, try to increase the content quality of the PLR product. Add extra to it, such as new methods and techniques but make sure they work first. If you plan on uploading books to Amazon Kindle you need to make sure that they contain quality advice that is relevant and works. The better the quality of your product the more sales you will make for other products you produce.

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GuruGazette

13 years ago

98% of mine sell like clockwork too. On average it takes about a month for sales of new books to start rolling. I have a mix of custom, public domain and PLR. The PLR & PD has been modified in different ways of course though.

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Don Schenk

13 years ago

This past week I uploaded 6 books I and a cohort wrote.

Amazon purchased a company called mobipocket(dot)com that sells ebooks to readers who own smart phones. The free software from mobipocket is what Amazon now wants Kindle publihers to use to format their books for Kindle. It is called Mobipocket Creator.

I found mobipocket easier than some other methods, but it still gave me a few issues. For example, the cover image must be separate from the Kindle book, and there is a menu on the left-hand side of the software you use to upload the cover image.

Mobipocket Creator will accept your book as an HTML file, a Word .doc (not docx), a txt file, and it even accepts pdf files. So, now you can use pdf.

Or, if you wish, you can also just upload a Word.doc to Kindle(save your book as a Word 1997-2003 doc), and upload your cover separately. This is how I did my first Kindle book.

Things to avoid that confuse the formatting are : tabs, manual indents by hitting the space-bar,and bullets and numbered lists.

The absolutely easiest way I have found is to use Amazon's new plugin for Adobe InDesign, and export the book that way. That is how I formated the books I just uploaded. The only problem: InDesign is expensive.

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vwaldeck

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Anish

Hi guys,

Okay well.. I've been considering getting into Kindle Publishing. I haven't read about it much before but I just have a basic idea, and have a few doubts that I want to ask.

Obviously, first I'll just have to find a good niche, then get PLR content or write on my own, assemble it all into a PDF and upload on Kindle store. Right? There isn't anything much more to it (from the 30,000 feet view), is there?

So let me ask the doubts:

Firstly, how many pages should I keep each eBook to? Well, let's say the PDF is of around 30 pages... but yes, it has great/enough information and has all the things that the title and description says it does.. how much can I price it? Is around $4 okay?

Secondly, it's fine if I use graphics inside the PDF, right? Or are they discouraged and it should be like.. just simple text?

And .. Is it OK if I link to my website(s) in each page's footer?
(Excuse my dumb questions and newbie-ness..)

But yeah, I just want to get started with it and don't want to make any mistakes from the beginning. So it'd be great if anyone could give me some basic and important tips that I may be missing. Thanks!

Anish.

You can do pretty much whatever you like with your Kindle books. Length, graphics, links, etc., are up-to-you. The important thing is to get your coding right so it looks good.

Val Waldeck
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