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Help Me With Recommendations For a Third Party Email Server! Advice & Options Wanted!

by JonHascue
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#emails #host #offline #scraper #server
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    • Profile picture of the author bobby_shahzad
      Hostgator are very strict when it comes to implementing anti spam policies. Based on my past experience with them, I am afraid there is very little you can do about it

      One solution is to bypass their mail server and send mails from a third party mail server. That way their ip address will not be used for mailing hence they will have no objection. Pm me if you want to get more info on this
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    Send you a PM to hear your ideas.

    Still open for discussion.
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    Well, you never answered my PM, so I am still looking for some help from anyone.

    Maybe answers to the third party mail server. Like does anyone use one that they can recommend.
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  • Profile picture of the author AWill
    From the looks of that email, hostgator most likely received some spam complaints or you have been exceeding the shared hosting "...500 outgoing email hourly limit per domain" - or both.

    If you're using scraped emails and sending your message to them without a double opt-in, you are not adhering to the new FTC regs/can-spam. The customer needs to opt in, then confirm that opt-in. That is the only way to be compliant.

    If you just email scraped addresses out of the blue, you will get spam complaints and run into trouble no matter what hosting/email hosting you use.

    If you want to go legit, double opt-in, use aweber or getresponse, etc. If you want to keep scraping, look for an email host with lax spam rules. You can also try an offshore host that doesn't care what you do (but that has its own risks since you have no recourse against them if they screw you over). If you run into trouble with outgoing emails per hour limits, you need a higher grade (VPS/dedicated) hosting plan.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
    Jon, no reputable web-hosting company will allow its members to send unsolicited bulk email(SPAM) regardless of whether the email is openly advertised on the web or not. Having the ability to opt out does not make it acceptable either, you never had the permission in the first place.

    No reputable bulk smtp service will allow such a thing either.

    Chris

    P.S. Probably not wise to advertise you send spam on a public forum

    Chris
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    • Profile picture of the author JonHascue
      Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post


      P.S. Probably not wise to advertise you send spam on a public forum

      Chris
      Thanks for the input.

      P.S. I do not send spam of any kind.

      Definition of Spam: E-mail spam, also known as unsolicited bulk Email (UBE), junk mail, or unsolicited commercial email (UCE), is the practice of sending unwanted e-mail messages, frequently with commercial content, in large quantities to an indiscriminate set of recipients.

      Definition of Indiscriminate: Done at random or without careful judgment.

      Nothing is done at random, or without careful judgment, and nothing is sent in any major bulk, and the biggest issue is, is that NONE of the emails are of the junk variety.

      Here's a rundown of CAN-SPAM's main requirements:
      1. Don't use false or misleading header information. Your "From," "To," "Reply-To," and routing information - including the originating domain name and email address - must be accurate and identify the person or business who initiated the message.
      2. Don't use deceptive subject lines. The subject line must accurately reflect the content of the message.
      3. Identify the message as an ad. The law gives you a lot of leeway in how to do this, but you must disclose clearly and conspicuously that your message is an advertisement.
      4. Tell recipients where you're located. Your message must include your valid physical postal address. This can be your current street address, a post office box you've registered with the U.S. Postal Service, or a private mailbox you've registered with a commercial mail receiving agency established under Postal Service regulations.
      5. Tell recipients how to opt out of receiving future email from you. Your message must include a clear and conspicuous explanation of how the recipient can opt out of getting email from you in the future. Craft the notice in a way that's easy for an ordinary person to recognize, read, and understand. Creative use of type size, color, and location can improve clarity. Give a return email address or another easy Internet-based way to allow people to communicate their choice to you. You may create a menu to allow a recipient to opt out of certain types of messages, but you must include the option to stop all commercial messages from you. Make sure your spam filter doesn't block these opt-out requests.
      6. Honor opt-out requests promptly. Any opt-out mechanism you offer must be able to process opt-out requests for at least 30 days after you send your message. You must honor a recipient's opt-out request within 10 business days. You can't charge a fee, require the recipient to give you any personally identifying information beyond an email address, or make the recipient take any step other than sending a reply email or visiting a single page on an Internet website as a condition for honoring an opt-out request. Once people have told you they don't want to receive more messages from you, you can't sell or transfer their email addresses, even in the form of a mailing list. The only exception is that you may transfer the addresses to a company you've hired to help you comply with the CAN-SPAM Act.
      7. Monitor what others are doing on your behalf. The law makes clear that even if you hire another company to handle your email marketing, you can't contract away your legal responsibility to comply with the law. Both the company whose product is promoted in the message and the company that actually sends the message may be held legally responsible.
      Everything done is 100% Fully compliant with the Can-Spam Act. Always.

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