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XYZcontent

13 years ago

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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by laurent0rz

is .org that bad for ranking in google? Is .net and .com really that superior?

Domain extensions don't affect SEO at all.

There are still a few people who imagine they do (it used to be an "urban myth of internet marketing", for example that ".info" ranked worse than ".com", but it isn't true at all), in spite of all Google's and Matt Cutts' persistently repeated and valiant efforts to try to dispel some of the nonsense people talk on this subject. Those people are mistaken.

.org is no worse for ranking than .com or .net.

There may be other reasons why a .com might be preferable to a .org/.net but SEO isn't one of them.

Personally, for myself, if someone tells you that domain extensions do affect SEO (other than country-specific ones on local searches, which is really a different question from the TLD's you're asking about), I would not only disregard that "information" but also ignore any other "information" that same person may offer you, such would be my opinion of their knowledge and understanding ... but hey, that's just me and I'm a notorious skepchick.

Originally Posted by laurent0rz

My second question is, in niche websites, you have a landing page with a little information about the page and a few products you would like to sell. Then you have to make a review about every product, which would be 3 reviews in total. Do these reviews go on the main page also, with the first article you wrote about the website, or do they go on a separate page?

This is up to you. (You can even test it in different positions and see what works best?).

What matters is to have your incentivised opt-in prominently displayed on your home page, so that you can build your list. Compared with that, most other stuff is far less important.

Originally Posted by laurent0rz

And if the reviews do go on the first page, do they go above or under the main information?

What's the "main information"? If that's (as one would hope) the "prominently incentivised opt-in" then I would put them below it, myself, because most other stuff is less important than building your list.

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XYZcontent 13 years ago

And for building my lists i should use aweber right? Or?
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- Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by laurent0rz
  
  And for building my lists i should use aweber right? Or?
  
  Aweber's highly recommended and is always the most popular choice when that question's asked around here; yes. (I also use it and recommend it, myself).
  
  What really matters, in my opinion, is not to use a free autoresponder.
  
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~kev~

13 years ago

Alexa posted the best answer so far.

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Domain extensions don't affect SEO at all.

Except for co.cc which has been banned from google.

As for .org - the .org extension is "supposed" to be reserved for not for profit organizations. If your trying to make money off the site, please do not use .org.

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Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by ~kev~

Except for co.cc which has been banned from google.

That's one domain, which has indeed recently been de-indexed from Google (together with all its subdomains).

I did say "apart from country-specific domains": .cc is the domain extension for the Cocos Islands.
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DireStraits

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ~kev~

Except for co.cc which has been banned from google.

But .co.cc isn't a TLD / domain extension in itself. It's actually a privately registered domain, under which any free registration simply becomes a subdomain.

The company offering free whatever.co.cc subdomains isn't a domain registry nor an accredited registrar.

.cc is the ccTLD of the Cocos (Keeling) Islands, and those domains haven't all been deindexed, nor banned, nor undergone mass penalisation.

Realistically, it was only actually one domain name that was deindexed by Google. Not all domains across an entire TLD. A very different proposition.

Originally Posted by ~kev~

If your trying to make money off the site, please do not use .org.

.org domains do look a little "weird" for commercial sites and aren't my first choice, it has to be said. I agree there. But that isn't to say that they can't nor shouldn't be used for money-making sites. I have several extremely profitable websites running on .org domains, and they do absolutely fine.

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~kev~

13 years ago

Originally Posted by DireStraits

.org domains do look a little "weird" for commercial sites and aren't my first choice, it has to be said. I agree there. But that isn't to say that they can't nor shouldn't be used for money-making sites. I have several extremely profitable websites running on .org domains, and they do absolutely fine.

My personal opinion, .org should not be used on a commercial money making site.

When a .org is used on a commercial site, it does a disservice to not-for-profit organizations like the red cross, salvation army and various religious organizations that are not out there to turn a profit.

Using .org on a commercial site can also confuse people who are used to seeing .org on not-for-profit sties.

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DireStraits

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ~kev~

My personal opinion, .org should not be used on a commercial money making site.

When a .org is used on a commercial site, it does a disservice to not-for-profit organizations like the red cross, salvation army and various religious organizations that are not out there to turn a profit.

Using .org on a commercial site can also confuse people who are used to seeing .org on not-for-profit sties.

Well, you're perfectly entitled adopt that view. Fair enough.

Afilias/PIR (the .org registry) can't share it, however, since although that was the idea behind the TLD, there are no such usage restrictions. They make the rules.

Personally, I think most people are clever enough to quickly and easily determine whether a site is for profit or or not, when they see one. To base one's judgement entirely on the TLD would be a little bit myopic. I personally don't see this as a concern, and it wouldn't stop me using a .org domain again in the future.

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~kev~

13 years ago

Originally Posted by DireStraits

Afilias/PIR (the .org registry) can't share it, however, since although that was the idea behind the TLD, there are no such usage restrictions. They make the rules.

"Currently" there are no such restrictions.

When the .org domain was established in 1985, it was originally supposed to be reserved for not-for-profit organizations.

.org - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The org domain was one of the original top-level domains, with com, edu, gov, mil and net, established in January 1985. It was originally intended for non-profit organizations or organizations of a non-commercial character that did not meet the requirements for other gTLDs.

Out of respect for real not-for-profit organizations, I hold true to the original intention of the .org name.

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DireStraits

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ~kev~

"Currently" there are no such restrictions.

When the .org domain was established in 1985, it was originally supposed to be reserved for not-for-profit organizations.

.org - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Many TLDs were created initially with some specific purpose in mind, though. And as is the case with .org domains, few have strict eligibility/usage criteria laid out in their registries' policies.

With the emergence of new TLDs over the last few years (not to mention those yet to be introduced and those ccTLDs that've been "repurposed"/rebranded), I struggle to see registries of global TLDs tightening their policies and alienating themselves in the face of ever-increasing competition.

(This doesn't apply so much to ccTLDs matched to countries with oppressive, backwards, autocratic regimes and so on, of course ...

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But, that said, all registries' policies are subject to change, anyway. Who knows what they'll do in the future. I just don't see the danger of it happening with .org's as being greater than any other TLD.

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yulypis 13 years ago

I have all types of TLD's as blogs and they all seem to perform the same in terms of SEO - that said - .com is better in a psychological manner to the visitors because it is simply more known and more importantly - known as commercial and not network or organizations - therefore they would most probably prefer .com over others - but as I said before - there is not difference - and as a proof I can give you three sites - each different TLD - they all perform pretty much the same as in organic Google traffic:
Free Manga - info
Thermal Imaging Goggles - org
Oral Rinse - net
Hotel A Pattaya - com
They were all been processed in the same manner - and they all have the same SEO characteristics - and they all rank the same regardless of their TLD
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Enzo Reyn 13 years ago

Hi

From my test was org the best ext for rank long time...i have tried for cople mini sites..
But I have made a test and bouth com net and org i have created the same backlinks and for all 3 uniqe articles...i gained from net ext the best traffic.
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UMS

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ~kev~

My personal opinion, .org should not be used on a commercial money making site.

When a .org is used on a commercial site, it does a disservice to not-for-profit organizations like the red cross, salvation army and various religious organizations that are not out there to turn a profit.

Using .org on a commercial site can also confuse people who are used to seeing .org on not-for-profit sties.

While there might be some validity in what you've said, the intent for top level domains went out the window years ago.

.com = commercial/company
.net = network, ISP etc
.org = organization

You'll see plenty of sites that don't fit the original intent of the TLD's.

The only TLD's that for the most part follow their original intent is .edu and .gov

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Dan C. Rinnert

13 years ago

Originally Posted by laurent0rz

-The first one, like the title already says is, is .org that bad for ranking in google? Is .net and .com really that superior?

For ranking in Google, no. For type-in traffic, I would bet that .com is going to beat just about any other TLD simply because people will naturally type in whatever dot COM, rather than .net or .org or dot anything else.

- My second question is, in niche websites, you have a landing page with a little information about the page and a few products you would like to sell. Then you have to make a review about every product, which would be 3 reviews in total. Do these reviews go on the main page also, with the first article you wrote about the website, or do they go on a separate page?
And if the reviews do go on the first page, do they go above or under the main information?

Organize it the way that makes the most sense. You want to minimize the number of clicks it takes to reach information. Build your site around making content easy for the reader to find. If readers can find it, the search engines surely can too.

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paul nicholls

13 years ago

hey laurent

using.orgs work absolutely fine

com, net and org all work well

there the only ones i use though when i build niche sites

i have a niche site which is a .org and its ranked no.1 and 2 in google for main keyword and a few internal page keywords too, and has been for about 12 months

so i know they rank fine

theres no one way to do reviews

a lot of amazon marketers write a good 600+ word review for a product on its own page and that works very well

but i know a lot of people used to use the review page method where you review say 3 or 5 products on the same page giving them a star rating etc

best way is to try both methods yourself and see what works for your own site and biz

if you have a niche site then using a long post and reviewing 1 product on a page at a time would be more suitable

review pages are more like 1 page websites which just offer a few reviews or comparisons on different products

hope this helps

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Matt Barrington

13 years ago

1).org's, .info's, .com's, .net's all work like a charm IF you do your due diligence in your SEO work.

2) It sounds like you're following an affiliate model, so you have a few options for finding out what will work best.

- As has been said, test out your different ideas on your page. The nice thing about IM is that you can instantly change anything that may or may not be working, and if you back up often enough, you can go back if you make a mistake.

- Another good idea I've found is to check out the adwords-sponsored review pages for the products. If they're using adwords, especially for long periods of time, they're probably making money. Use their hard-earned knowledge to your advantage, and copy their format. Test, rinse, and repeat. It's as simple as that.

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svalegria 13 years ago

I have 9 websites that are number one and the .org extension. Early on I liked org better than net. Now I feel that .com, .net and org are all about the same for SEO.
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balric

13 years ago

I use a lot of .org domains and my best site is a .org domain. They rank just as well as any other domain I have used.
I will disagree on the .info domains though. I have ran side by side tests and the .info domains did not work as well. You can probably overcome it but to me there is a difference when you are starting out with your site.

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XYZcontent

13 years ago

WOW!, you guys are amazing, i did no way imagine so many answers!, Thanks alot!

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