Where am I going wrong? 1000 views, 1 sale?

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I've had How To Make Solar Panels up for about 4 months now and have had approximately 1000 visits yet only 1 sale. Obviously something isn't working. Where do I need to adjust? I'm stumped here, and looking for some serious help!

Thanks warriors,
Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author David Keith
    first thing to check is that those 1000 visits are actual people. there are a lot of bots running around the internet that could have easily accounted for many of your 1000 visits over a 4 month period.
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  • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
    You've got a nice site. The link to the earth for energy site is a little to bold.

    Also: some kind of subscription for jumped in my face...

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  • Profile picture of the author tyusunas
    Where are you getting your traffic? You need to be able to determine if it is targeted traffic. You need to be tracking your visitors to determine whether your traffic source is working or not. Sounds like you are getting traffic from one source? May need to change methods of getting traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author maryland168
    I think your site is down..

    You can check it for your self

    have a nice day
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    • Profile picture of the author MichaelG469
      Originally Posted by 888 View Post

      I think your site is down..

      You can check it for your self

      have a nice day

      Up and running for me, not sure what you mean
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  • Profile picture of the author atomiccloud
    The site is nice. I would check were exactly your traffic is coming from (organic search or bots?).

    Also I am not a fan of the pop up. But some people swear by them. The copy writing could be better but who am I to judge.

    Maybe it just isn't a very marketable niche?
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    • Profile picture of the author MichaelG469
      Originally Posted by atomiccloud View Post

      The site is nice. I would check were exactly your traffic is coming from (organic search or bots?).

      Also I am not a fan of the pop up. But some people swear by them. The copy writing could be better but who am I to judge.

      Maybe it just isn't a very marketable niche?

      Not a big fan of them either, but the numbers don't lie. Way more opt-ins from the popup than the inpage.
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      • Profile picture of the author atomiccloud
        Originally Posted by MichaelG469 View Post

        Not a big fan of them either, but the numbers don't lie. Way more opt-ins from the popup than the inpage.
        Yeah I guess I would use it for a niche site. Definitely wouldn't use it on my main sites or authority sites.

        Once again its just my preference. As you said though, the numbers don't lie =]
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Jordan
    1. Tweak your keywords, make it specific, long-tail keywords

    2. refine your ads for maximum targeted traffic

    3. Where are you getting your traffic?

    Find a reputable service provider that gives a real traffic source.
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    • Profile picture of the author MichaelG469
      Originally Posted by Mark Jordan View Post

      1. Tweak your keywords, make it specific, long-tail keywords

      2. refine your ads for maximum targeted traffic

      3. Where are you getting your traffic?

      Find a reputable service provider that gives a real traffic source.
      Thought I did the best keyword research possible, but I've got more articles I've written for other keywords I'll be dripping in soon.

      All my traffic is from SEO (google) and articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Gehr
    Four months is still new.

    I wouldn't stress too much about it.

    This is a highly competitive niche, but your keyword gets around 4,000 exact searches, and although sales aren't rolling in yet--I think it's only a matter of time.

    You've done a pretty good job overall, but I'm wondering if perhaps the pop up opt-in could be annoying to some people--including me. I know this is a strategy that a lot of people use, but my first reaction is to leave.
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    • Profile picture of the author MichaelG469
      Originally Posted by Peter Gehr View Post

      Four months is still new.

      I wouldn't stress too much about it.

      This is a highly competitive niche, but your keyword gets around 4,000 exact searches, and although sales aren't rolling in yet--I think it's only a matter of time.

      You've done a pretty good job overall, but I'm wondering if perhaps the pop up opt-in could be annoying to some people--including me. I know this is a strategy that a lot of people use, but my first reaction is to leave.
      I agree, they are a turnoff. I may remove it and see what transgresses. I also may tweak my offer, because apparently my ebook isn't very enticing. Maybe a "X steps to building a solar panel" and send them teasers for every step with affiliate links? I don't know, i'm just wishing I had a few more sales so I could get a check from clickbank haha.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tony Marriott
        Originally Posted by MichaelG469 View Post

        I agree, they are a turnoff. I may remove it and see what transgresses. I also may tweak my offer, because apparently my ebook isn't very enticing. Maybe a "X steps to building a solar panel" and send them teasers for every step with affiliate links? I don't know, i'm just wishing I had a few more sales so I could get a check from clickbank haha.
        General opinion seems to dislike the opt-in box and that goes for me too.
        Even if you are getting more opt-ins it may be killing sales

        Take it off and see what happens.

        I notice with my own niche sites though that low tarffic numbers also tend to have low clickthrough/sales. 1000 a day and you will be may making daily sales. 1000 in 4 months less likely.

        Of course it may just be a poor converting product. A high gravity is not always reflective good conversions. Sometimes it's just too much work to figure out why a particular product won't convert for you and it's time to move on.

        Repeat successes , don't chase the failures.
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        • Profile picture of the author MichaelG469
          Originally Posted by Tony Marriott View Post

          General opinion seems to dislike the opt-in box and that goes for me too.
          Even if you are getting more opt-ins it may be killing sales

          Take it off and see what happens.

          I notice with my own niche sites though that low tarffic numbers also tend to have low clickthrough/sales. 1000 a day and you will be may making daily sales. 1000 in 4 months less likely.

          Of course it may just be a poor converting product. A high gravity is not always reflective good conversions. Sometimes it's just too much work to figure out why a particular product won't convert for you and it's time to move on.

          Repeat successes , don't chase the failures.

          Which leads to.....when do you determine a success or failure? Is 4 months to early to give up and deem its a failure? Or do I let it roll and keep attacking?
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  • Profile picture of the author atomiccloud
    You can never do enough testing. Just changing the wording of offers can make a HUGE difference.

    You can never test enough. Try taking the pop up off. Try changing your text in the pop up. Just see what works.

    As long as you keep building and backlinking you will be picked up for more long tail key words and your traffic will build. With the right testing you will find the best results for sales and subscribers.

    Oh also, I can't send PMs yet so I can't reply to you!
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  • Profile picture of the author wiseme11
    Nothing wrong with your site and I think you did it great just like others has commented. What I could see is the traffics come to your site. Are these visitors come from search engine alone ? DIY job may sound simple but it is not for everyone no matter how easy it is.
    Visitors may lack of confidence in the products you offer. Provide more evidence of how simple to built up, may with be simple illustration drawing, safety level of setting this solar panel when fixing on household electrical appliances.
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelG469
    Should I put adsense on the site? Or would that just make it look distasteful?
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  • Profile picture of the author salaka
    Hi
    yes i think you should put adsense and amazon, do you use Google Analytics?
    no
    Anchor Text on the web page? this could help with geting more traffic
    hope this help i am new to this as well i know how you feel build a website no sales!!

    good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Alfredo Carrion
    I agree with the others - your opt-in is pretty ugly! Also maybe add comments as well?
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  • Profile picture of the author salikkhan
    Seen your site.. I think that the site is really nice, but for those who don't know much about the niche of your business, it is lacking.. try to add some more general content so that people start digging more into site..
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Barnett
    A question on my mind with this one is 'Is this a desperate need that someone needs to solve' or is it a nice to have that someone might get round to doing when they have a spare weekend. If it's the latter, it won't matter how good your website is, if the desperation to buy isn't there, then it's hard to close a sale.
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  • Profile picture of the author Amit_articles
    Hey,

    Don't think that I'm planning to have a business from you...

    Well, I've written several sales pages before and from my experience I must say the content which has been used in the front page is not interesting. It can be written in a much better way. Even I wonder what are the keywords you have used in your content? You can consult a good keyword researcher also.

    I wish my words will lead you to more success

    Cheers !!
    Amit
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    • Profile picture of the author MichaelG469
      Originally Posted by Amit_articles View Post

      Hey,

      Don't think that I'm planning to have a business from you...

      Well, I've written several sales pages before and from my experience I must say the content which has been used in the front page is not interesting. It can be written in a much better way. Even I wonder what are the keywords you have used in your content? You can consult a good keyword researcher also.

      I wish my words will lead you to more success

      Cheers !!
      Amit

      The home page/sales page isn't keyword rich dominant. I use my articles (information center) as my keywords and to get people to the site. Maybe I should change this strategy?
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    1 sale / 1000 visitors isn't an astonishingly low conversion rate, to be honest. While 1000 visitors is usually a large enough sample size to have an -idea- of how you'll convert, I'd suggest waiting until you have at least ~5,000 visitors before you draw any real conclusions about the conversion rate and if the website is broken. You might get 10 sales in your next 1000.

    Have you considered adding links to the materials on Amazon?
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelG469
    I'll keep trying to drive more traffic to the site, and maybe think about hiring a copywriter to rewrite the first page.
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  • Profile picture of the author vok
    I land on your website and I have no idea what you want me as a visitor to do. There's a lot of links a lot of images and it all looks very busy and confusing. You want to make it extremely simple.

    Personally I'd create a landing page with a video sales latter with a voice over, have a header on top and a big buy now button underneath. get rid of everything else, it's just very distracting and it scatters traffic, to pages of little or not value.

    Have all your legal stuff in the footer but make it a light grey so not to distract people away.

    That way it creates a very simple process, people either buy your product or your merchants product or they leave. It's that simple.
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    • Profile picture of the author MichaelG469
      Originally Posted by chriswick View Post

      I land on your website and I have no idea what you want me as a visitor to do. There's a lot of links a lot of images and it all looks very busy and confusing. You want to make it extremely simple.

      Personally I'd create a landing page with a video sales latter with a voice over, have a header on top and a big buy now button underneath. get rid of everything else, it's just very distracting and it scatters traffic, to pages of little or not value.

      Have all your legal stuff in the footer but make it a light grey so not to distract people away.

      That way it creates a very simple process, people either buy your product or your merchants product or they leave. It's that simple.
      Thanks, will definitely add that to my testing agenda.
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      • Profile picture of the author merereilly
        While personally I'm not interested in DIY solar panels, I'm sure there is a market out there who would be! Are you doing only SEO? I would consider SEM, Social attracting "Green" FB users, even Media Buys on related websites.

        And I agree with other posters who have said they're confused about what to do once they get on the page... what happens when someone enters their email? Are they directed to a checkout page? If sales are what you're after you should link to a checkout page in the words your website body, in addition to the other link icons
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    • Profile picture of the author 2stroke
      Originally Posted by chriswick View Post

      I land on your website and I have no idea what you want me as a visitor to do. There's a lot of links a lot of images and it all looks very busy and confusing. You want to make it extremely simple.

      Personally I'd create a landing page with a video sales latter with a voice over, have a header on top and a big buy now button underneath. get rid of everything else, it's just very distracting and it scatters traffic, to pages of little or not value.

      Have all your legal stuff in the footer but make it a light grey so not to distract people away.

      That way it creates a very simple process, people either buy your product or your merchants product or they leave. It's that simple.
      I think this is all really good advice.

      I have actually searched for this before as I am interested in it. Nobody gets technical enough for me on these sites. How many do you need to run something, what do you hook then up to ect..

      I think a short 60 second video, right in the center of the screen, of a guy making a solar panel in his garage, then the panel out in the sun with an electrical meter hooked to it, or a bank of them running a flat screen tv or something.

      Also I think your top banner and box above it take up too much space.
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  • Profile picture of the author stig57
    Michael -

    I don't think 0.1% is that terrible for a new site in a competitive niche. Looks like you are competing with a few million other sites, many are probably selling the same Earth4Energy product.

    The comments already posted are right on the mark...

    1. make your page more compelling, I didn't feel a sense of urgency to buy today,...

    2. your opt-in page stopped me cold. I want to be sure before I hand over my e-mail address. That would be a nice spot to add a free bonus.. how about a resource guide for hard to find parts ? I don't see that listed on Earth4Energy's sales page. Make your offer better than the others. If nothing else, it'll build your list for your next offer.

    3. Are you building backlinks ? That'll push you up in the rankings and bring you more traffic.

    4. I like your information pages Build more pages, more info equals more long tail keyword combos, which equals more traffic from searches.

    My two cents..
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  • Profile picture of the author barache
    While the site seems to look ok, it's hard to know what the visitor is supposed to do?
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  • Profile picture of the author Brian Terry
    Hi Michael

    I think your biggest problem is conversions (assuming your traffic was targeted and in the right frame of mind when they arrived).

    Look at what can be seen above the fold of your page (the first 500 pixels from the top of the page). I cannot see your headline, there is nothing there that's strong enough to make me want to scroll down the page.

    Why does it say "Home"? You need to kill your breadcrumbs if that's what it is.

    I would get everything set up on a stand alone sales letter page. With no links going anywhere and if you have to have a header panel make it as narrow as possible, this way more people will see your headline when they arrive than they are right now.

    You need to get as much as possible above the fold of your page so as soon as people arrive you get to pull them in with your copy.

    If you add video also include your sales letter below it. Test it with and without using a split testing service like Google Website Optimizer. I don't think a video by itself is going to be enough.

    Getting an optin is good because listbuilding is critical to the success of every online business as I'm sure you know. Being able to follow-up by email could double your sales if done right.

    What you could do is build your optin form into your actual sales letter (but not take people away from your letter when they optin). Just write your optin offer into your sales letter so it makes sense to people reading it and doesn't get in the way of the flow of your letter.

    Once you have it all set up as a standalone sales letter with no links taking people off into other directions be sure to split test different headlines. That's the most important thing you could test.

    These things will definitely improve your conversions and get you more sales.

    I'm using this WordPress plugin right now to do exactly what I've described above...

    WordPress Landing Pages by Premise

    Remove all the distractions like links, banners and buttons to other pages and sites and you'll get more sales.

    I hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author newpage
    Micheal

    I think only one other person has brought this up, but your current page looks like a link feeder site. Instead, redo your landing page so it focuses on the product and looks more like a retail product-focused page.

    If you're purpose is to get leads first, then design it as a standard lead capture page: big image / statement on the left and sign in box to the right.

    If you're purpose is to sell product, put a big nice ebook cover or the CD image in the middle and the details right below, with the buy buttons easily visible. You can also blend in a lead capture box somewhere there too or have it as a popup.

    Do both or rotate the pages and test to find which performs better.
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    • Profile picture of the author Adam X
      I think your article could use more work. Point out the benefits of getting this product. perhaps put in a video, and an image of the product. You need to get them interested in clicking on your link. You can list some of the great features/benefits of this product , get them interested and then , for more information , click here.
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  • Profile picture of the author alphadesign
    Make your website more attractive and more interesting. That will certainly get you more sales!
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  • Profile picture of the author onegoodman
    First, I would say you have a nice page, but is not a sale page, it seems more of a blog post.

    I would hire someone to make a sale page, usually is cheap because it is a one page deal.

    As far as visitors, you need to make sure that they not only original but also interested in your niche. Try to target visitors from your niche
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    • Profile picture of the author lerxtjr
      I would hire someone to make a sale page, usually is cheap because it is a one page deal.
      A well-done sales letter page will cost you more than 5 websites combined. Don't underestimate the need for putting the time and budget into making a sales "page" that really will convert for you.

      Also, if you intend on selling through google or bing, better leave your site as it is because they both will require you to have links to other pages like a full site or will shut down your campaign.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        While the site may be "pretty", if it's intended to make sales, it sucks.

        Sorry if that hurts your feelings, but that's what I see.

        Your landing page screams "I just want to sell you something, but I really don't know how to do it."

        Have you spent any time studying the DIY crowd? Or are you relying on keywords and some kind of sales stats for the product?

        Your menu bar is dysfunctional, at least in IE. When I clicked on the information center and the About links, I didn't go anywhere. When I clicked on "Green Eco Club", I landed on a lame sales page for some kind of ebook membership site.

        Your site has no focus, with a weak-titled opt-in in the right column, along with a few ads.

        If you want to sell a book on how to build solar panels, you need to do a better job of selling me on WHY I should want solar panels in the first place. And do it with something stronger than 'maybe your electric bill will go away'. Give some numbers.

        Next, sell me on why I should want to build those panels myself. As an earlier poster mentioned, tell me how many I need or how to figure it out, about how much a panel costs to build, what level of expertise I need to build them, and so on.

        By the time I get to your buy link, I should be foaming at the mouth to build my own solar panels, and the only thing standing in my way is "how do I do it." Which you so nicely show me where to find out.

        You have a start on winning half the battle - you are getting traffic. Now it's time to start fighting on the second front - converting those visitors into buyers.

        I wish you well...
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        • Profile picture of the author MichaelG469
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          Your menu bar is dysfunctional, at least in IE. When I clicked on the information center and the About links, I didn't go anywhere.
          I'm not sure why that is happening, as it seems to be working fine on my end. Anyone else having trouble? I'd really like to thank everyone for all of their input and advice. I have some options now on what I need to do. For those of you confused, I'm wanting to sell the Earth 4 Energy product (main goal), if I get leads for my Free Ebook then thats awesome as well, but not my main goal. It seems that I need to go towards getting a new sales letter written by a good copywriter and I also need to get a video slideshow with voice over to go along with that new sales letter. Anyone know any good outsources on either of these tasks? I'll do the text and pictures for the slideshow, just need someone to do the slideshow and voice (well I guess I could do the voice, but if someone could just do both that'd be great). Thank you warriors, you are a blessing. Michael PS...if anyone else has any other advice that would be welcomed as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author SiteSmarty
    Do a page similar to what you link to. Earth4Energy.com - make solar panel and make wind turbine They've got it right.
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    • Profile picture of the author Peter Gehr
      I think I agree with SiteSmarty, Earth4Energy.com have a very nice presentation, and it's fresh and looks professional with great content that draws you in.

      I've seen this site before and it's impressive.

      I always believe it's a good idea to deconstruct, or reverse engineer a site that's doing well. I'm not saying to copy or plagiarize, but studying what works is a great teacher. By using a site like Earth4Energy, you can make it your reference or benchmark and analyze the reasons why its working and use it to your advantage.
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Actually I don't think you have enough traffic yet to draw any firm conclusions beyond some of the aesthetic and copy suggestions here. You are facing a very competitive market, although I should also say your website is not very compelling. Perhaps instead of going for the blatant sales links, work on capturing leads for followup promotions. The vendor may have some affiliate promo tools to use for your subscribers.
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  • Profile picture of the author tmjoe
    Michael,
    Why don't you create a very informational blog as the landing page? This way, you can flag yourself as an 'expert' in solar panels and assert more trust in your visitors. And it could also serve as a platform for your visitors to subscribe to your blog. Try not to direct the traffic to your sales page immediately, if you are looking for a bigger success in long run.

    Anyway, it was a nicely done site and it did spark an interest in me. Kudos.
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  • Profile picture of the author Karthik Reddy
    The trick is to hire a good copywriter and target long tail keywords for conversions.Good backlinks are the key. (avoid spammy backlinks)
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  • Profile picture of the author Targeted Traffic
    Yep maybe you should remove the pop-up, majority..including me get annoyed by it, and my eyes immediately and frantically look for that X button when it does...

    Ok so you've had visits..but now that they’ve clicked to your site, what happens? The site has to give them what they want/need. That’s the missing piece to the puzzle and the factor that causes so many people to scratch their heads in disbelief.Know your audience and appeal to their emotions...
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    You could have a look at some of the related sites, and see where they are getting their backlinks from, and if possible compete with them on that level, it could simply be that the traffic source are not interested very much in solar panels
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  • Profile picture of the author MKaren
    Originally Posted by MichaelG469 View Post

    I've had How To Make Solar Panels up for about 4 months now and have had approximately 1000 visits yet only 1 sale. Obviously something isn't working. Where do I need to adjust? I'm stumped here, and looking for some serious help!

    Thanks warriors,
    Michael

    Perhaps the colors, or the headlines, perhaps the message the website convey to the audience...you should test your site to google website optimizer these way you could do a little experiment to your site by different variety of combination of headlines, page colors and other factor that could help you distinguish what your audience wants and what they are attracted to.

    Hope these Helps
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  • Profile picture of the author tsneds
    Originally Posted by MichaelG469 View Post

    I've had How To Make Solar Panels up for about 4 months now and have had approximately 1000 visits yet only 1 sale. Obviously something isn't working. Where do I need to adjust? I'm stumped here, and looking for some serious help!

    Thanks warriors,
    Michael
    Do you have Google Analytics script installed on the site so you can track where visitors originate?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
    Site looks nice, I would make the background in the 'opt in' call to action a bit brighter, as it's a bit dull and doesnt grab my attention. If you capture the lead, you can sell to them for life. Something brighter there should definitely help
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  • Profile picture of the author HiMyNameIsHish
    Just give it time my friend, some sales are bound to drop.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    If you're building a list, it may not just be the site that's the problem.

    It could be that your list doesn't trust you, or that your email copywriting needs some work
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