My youtube account was just suspended for 2 weeks

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So, about 2 months ago one of my videos was deleted (because it was mass flagged/reported) for being a 'get rich quick scheme' - despite it being NOTHING like that, and just an honest review of a product.

2 DAYS ago, another of my videos was flagged by the 'youtube community' (it was a great honest review, speaking POSITIVELY about the product)

And I got a note saying youtube reviewed it too (bull crap) and i should not have 'gross' videos of animals being killed and 'unproper' things such as that

Obviously, BS

Unfortunately, youtube will cancel my account permanently if this happens again in the next 4 month period or so - and also unfortunately, they make it easy for anybody to make **** up and report you or flag you for whatever reason.

So, my question is -what can I do about this? Youtube makes it IMPOSSIBLE to contact them for anything, anybody have any contact info for them or a means to contact them and ask "Seriously youtube, wtf"?

I would not mind my account being banned/suspended if it was for legit reasons, but it's simply competitors that are reporting me for the sake of getting me banned - so yeah....

Any help or advise would be appreciated

Jeff
#account #suspended #weeks #youtube
  • Profile picture of the author trevor75
    I wish I could help you out, I've been hearing over and over now from marketing friends that their accounts have been banned for no reason too over the last 6 months. I find it absolutely astonishing that the largest video sharing website on the planet has no customer service department.

    I mean seriously how do they get away with that? Hell, I'd love to run a social network with over a billion accounts and millions pouring in from revenue and not have to talk to any body about any problems. I'm jealous!
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
      Originally Posted by trevor75 View Post

      I wish I could help you out, I've been hearing over and over now from marketing friends that their accounts have been banned for no reason too over the last 6 months. I find it absolutely astonishing that the largest video sharing website on the planet has no customer service department.

      I mean seriously how do they get away with that? Hell, I'd love to run a social network with over a billion accounts and millions pouring in from revenue and not have to talk to any body about any problems. I'm jealous!
      Thanks man, yeah it's a pain in the butt sometimes
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Michal
    Get off youtube, and make video on your own site. This is kind of like with blogs, it's always better to self host so you are not subject to another parties TOS
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
      Originally Posted by Thomas Michal View Post

      Get off youtube, and make video on your own site. This is kind of like with blogs, it's always better to self host so you are not subject to another parties TOS
      Yeah I thought about that, but then I need to get my pages ranked and that's too much work. It's so easy to get youtube videos ranked highly with just a few SEO Tricks.... that might be my best option tho
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr Kevin
      Originally Posted by Thomas Michal View Post

      Get off youtube, and make video on your own site. This is kind of like with blogs, it's always better to self host so you are not subject to another parties TOS
      Even the invincible lady gaga got her youtube account suspended - I guess that means no one is safe from their ban masters..lol..
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  • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
    I wouldn't touch my YouTube account for the next 4 months. And if there was a potentially questionable video already on the account, I'd remove it.

    Then, after 4 months be more careful about video selection.

    Presuming all complaints are by competitors and blaming everyone else in the world strikes me as a story that - if told by YouTube - might be a little different.

    Or, if it is competitors, this appears to be a real immature niche you're in. The fact is, review videos do not disappear en masse because competitors complaint about them. There wouldn't be a review video left on YouTube. So it may be time to reconsider the niche for a different one.

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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
      Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

      I wouldn't touch my YouTube account for the next 4 months. And if there was a potentially questionable video already on the account, I'd remove it.

      Then, after 4 months be more careful about video selection.

      Presuming all complaints are by competitors and blaming everyone else in the world strikes me as a story that - if told by YouTube - might be a little different.

      Or, if it is competitors, this appears to be a real immature niche you're in. The fact is, review videos do not disappear en masse because competitors complaint about them. There wouldn't be a review video left on YouTube. So it may be time to reconsider the niche for a different one.

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      I'm in the IM Niche - apparently they ARE immature, as youtube warned me about having videos of animals being killed etc, lol
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      • Profile picture of the author azmanar
        Originally Posted by eljeffe77 View Post

        I'm in the IM Niche - apparently they ARE immature, as youtube warned me about having videos of animals being killed etc, lol
        Hi,

        You can get ranked from other Video Channels like Metacafe.

        Also be sure to check the integrity of your Video descriptions and URLs.

        And do not forget to review your YouTube channels, subscriptions and subscribers.

        That could be the problem.
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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    This be true mon. If you want I will give you my secret - get an account with megavideo, a lifetime is approx 200 euros now. That way you can host your mini movies. Youtube is getting far too nasty for me. They did cancel my account and only re-instated after much begging. Those folks hate SEO and anything that smells of making money. Like you are much better off with another service. peace...
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
    Youtube was created as a platform for people to share and communicate ideas, it is not a free advertising platform for marketers. Unless you are paying for the bandwidth of those videos, you have no right to complain about them being deleted, regardless of whether they are a testimonial or not.

    Youtube does not pay for it's bandwidth for the benefit of marketers or any other business, that is what their ad platform is for.

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  • Profile picture of the author Heidi White
    Originally Posted by eljeffe77 View Post

    So, about 2 months ago one of my videos was deleted (because it was mass flagged/reported) for being a 'get rich quick scheme' - despite it being NOTHING like that, and just an honest review of a product.

    2 DAYS ago, another of my videos was flagged by the 'youtube community' (it was a great honest review, speaking POSITIVELY about the product)

    And I got a note saying youtube reviewed it too (bull crap) and i should not have 'gross' videos of animals being killed and 'unproper' things such as that

    Obviously, BS

    Unfortunately, youtube will cancel my account permanently if this happens again in the next 4 month period or so - and also unfortunately, they make it easy for anybody to make **** up and report you or flag you for whatever reason.

    So, my question is -what can I do about this? Youtube makes it IMPOSSIBLE to contact them for anything, anybody have any contact info for them or a means to contact them and ask "Seriously youtube, wtf"?

    I would not mind my account being banned/suspended if it was for legit reasons, but it's simply competitors that are reporting me for the sake of getting me banned - so yeah....

    Any help or advise would be appreciated

    Jeff
    Jeff - Honestly, the first thing I'd do is remove your Youtube link from your Warrior Profile. It only takes one DH who has it out for you to send a bunch of complaints about your video.
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    • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
      The IM niche is dicey on YouTube right now. Although you are unhappy with the 2 week suspension, count your lucky stars it was not a ban. Many have recently been banned without warning.

      You may want to make sure you have copies of your videos to place on your own website and/or other video sites.

      Call it insurance in case YouTube does institute a ban tomorrow.

      And - probably a good idea to diversify if you have not already done so.

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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Stop violating their TOS. They don't want your "honest product reviews". They don't want affiliate marketers and make money online.
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    • Profile picture of the author LB
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Stop violating their TOS. They don't want your "honest product reviews". They don't want affiliate marketers and make money online.
      Where in their TOS do they say this? The rule of Google is "we do what we want".

      Their TOS says:

      4. General Use of the Service--Permissions and Restrictions

      YouTube hereby grants you permission to access and use the Service as set forth in these Terms of Service, provided that:
      1. You agree not to distribute in any medium any part of the Service or the Content without YouTube's prior written authorization, unless YouTube makes available the means for such distribution through functionality offered by the Service (such as the Embeddable Player).
      2. You agree not to alter or modify any part of the Service.
      3. You agree not to access Content through any technology or means other than the video playback pages of the Service itself, the Embeddable Player, or other explicitly authorized means YouTube may designate.
      4. You agree not to use the Service for any of the following commercial uses unless you obtain YouTube's prior written approval:
        • the sale of access to the Service;
        • the sale of advertising, sponsorships, or promotions placed on or within the Service or Content; or
        • the sale of advertising, sponsorships, or promotions on any page of an ad-enabled blog or website containing Content delivered via the Service, unless other material not obtained from YouTube appears on the same page and is of sufficient value to be the basis for such sales.
      5. Prohibited commercial uses do not include:
        • uploading an original video to YouTube, or maintaining an original channel on YouTube, to promote your business or artistic enterprise;
        • showing YouTube videos through the Embeddable Player on an ad-enabled blog or website, subject to the advertising restrictions set forth above in Section 4.D; or
        • any use that YouTube expressly authorizes in writing.
      Google loves to say that competitors cannot affect legitimate users because Google's algorithm is so amazing. The reality is that competitors can and do get legitimate content removed from organic results, Adwords, Adsense, Youtube, etc.

      Google could care less about anything that makes them less than 8-figures.
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by LB View Post

        Where in their TOS do they say this? The rule of Google is "we do what we want".

        Their TOS says:

        Google loves to say that competitors cannot affect legitimate users because Google's algorithm is so amazing. The reality is that competitors can and do get legitimate content removed from organic results, Adwords, Adsense, Youtube, etc.

        Google could care less about anything that makes them less than 8-figures.
        Did you or did you not read all the quotations above about how they disallow affiliate marketing and make money online. Have you missed the threads here about mass deletion of make money online videos?

        Google doesn't want it and I would not pay for bandwidth for your commercial messages either if I were Google and I would also care less about anything that made me less than 8 figures too.

        YouTube is owned by Google and being owned by Google, Google can do as it pleases with YouTube. They don't care if that makes you happy or unhappy.
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        • Profile picture of the author LB
          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          Did you or did you not read all the quotations above about how they disallow affiliate marketing and make money online. Have you missed the threads here about mass deletion of make money online videos?

          Google doesn't want it and I would not pay for bandwidth for your commercial messages either if I were Google and I would also care less about anything that made me less than 8 figures too.

          YouTube is owned by Google and being owned by Google, Google can do as it pleases with YouTube. They don't care if that makes you happy or unhappy.
          I asked where they specifically disallow certain activities (affiliates etc.) in their TOS. As far as I've seen, they don't.

          They close accounts arbitrarily. They do not have a clearly defined list of what is or is not allowed. They delete legitimate videos and label them spam and scams.
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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by LB View Post

            I asked where they specifically disallow certain activities (affiliates etc.) in their TOS. As far as I've seen, they don't.

            They close accounts arbitrarily. They do not have a clearly defined list of what is or is not allowed. They delete legitimate videos and label them spam and scams.
            Yes ... they close them arbitrarily, but this isn't news. It's been all over the Warrior Forum and all over the net. They don't want Make Money Online videos. Period.

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            • Profile picture of the author dshipman
              That sucks. I actually subscribe to your youtube page.
              I like your videos.
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            • Profile picture of the author LB
              Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

              Stop violating their TOS.
              Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

              Yes ... they close them arbitrarily, but this isn't news.
              :confused::confused:
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              • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                Originally Posted by LB View Post

                :confused::confused:
                I believe that it falls under their category of spam. They don't spell it out for you, and they tell you that they can and will delete anything they want to anytime they want to in so many words. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out.

                While I'm no fan of Google, it is within the rights of site owners to decide what they want on their sites and what they don't want. Many marketers get their panties all in a bunch when they booted out. They seem to have a sense of entitlement ... that they should be able to place their advertising for free just about anywhere they want to with impunity.

                It's no wonder really why all the sites make mass deletions. If they didn't, sites like Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, the Google serps, Google Plus, Craigslist, HubPages, Squidoo ... would be nothing but spam. Real users would leave and "marketers" would take over.

                Have you ever been to an unmoderated blog or unmoderated forum. Not a pretty site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
    AND i just had a 3rd video reported, and my account was axed. Somebody wanted me off of youtube - lol.
    It's funny, because it was a super honest review telling you you WONT get rich over night and you and you have to WORK

    Oh well time to start up a new one

    A big F-U to the a-holes that constantly reported me
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    • Profile picture of the author rts2271
      Mess with the bull you get the horns. Building aspects of your business on a free platform you have no control over is a recipe for disaster. Get your own hosting, build a page for your content and post the videos on s3 for performance. The goal of a third party service like youtube is not to make it your video home. Its to entice the traffic on their enough to want to come back to your site and get the content. So a 2 minute snippet that leads back to your site for the full info....GREAT. But a complete review where they sit on youtube, watch the video and can comment, flag or otherwise disrupt the traffic flow....DUMB
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  • Profile picture of the author Success With Dany
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    I was wondering if 30-60 second slides video pointing to an Amazon review blog is at risk?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mo Goulet
    Upload your videos to Facebook..It's free.
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    • Profile picture of the author ghen
      Wow, that's terrible. Was it a very competitive product or something? I hear this can happen in real life too. Someone can tell a lie about you to the police and they will take their word for it and come and arrest you. I hope google is not trying to be 'evil' again...
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
      Originally Posted by proapc View Post

      Upload your videos to Facebook..It's free.
      Interesting Idea, do FB videos get indexed in search results like youtube ones do?

      Thanks!

      Jeff
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  • Profile picture of the author madmmd
    i am about to start my video marketing campaign.. i guess i should be careful..
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