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A interesting way to attack chronic refunders.

by rts2271
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A buddy of mine showed me what he is doing, and gave me permission to give the basics.

He sells a product on the internet. He has been having the chronic refunder issue popping up for himself with his CB products. He has put together a system which generates a unique single pixel image per client. When they refund they receive a letter stating they are to delete the product as per his TOS. If the server detects a hit to that image after 72 hours a C&D letter is generated and sent. If they are a US,UK or AU client and the pixel is again hit after 48 hours from the previous hit, a notification is sent to attorneys he has on staff in the localities he can pursue them.

So far he has 9 small claims or civil suits in play. He has won a judgement in 5 of them which include a minimum of 2500$ in damages per case and in Australia and Europe includes criminal charges for theft and software piracy. He sent the results to his list and that day about 15% of his list unsubscribed. His refund rate is now in the 2-3% range.

There are ways to fight back.
#attack #chronic #interesting #refunders
  • Profile picture of the author techservice
    Sounds interesting but this does not stack up for me. Your talking CB products, these are not high enough value to generate 2500$ in damages per case.

    But if you’re right then this is potentially very interesting and could be a product in its self!
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Interesting way to get rid of chronic refunders from your list. lol.

    I use DLGuard, don't promote Clickbank products and if I get one refund from someone, they go in my DLGuard ban list and can never purchase from me again. I sell websites and have ZERO tolerance for theft.
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    • Profile picture of the author rts2271
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Interesting way to get rid of chronic refunders from your list. lol.

      I use DLGuard, don't promote Clickbank products and if I get one refund from someone, they go in my DLGuard ban list and can never purchase from me again. I sell websites and have ZERO tolerance for theft.
      When he told me about the unsubscribes I laughed so hard. It's certainly not a model for everyone, but it shows if you think a bit outside of the box, you can deal with the issue.

      And I am right there with you sbucciarel, I have recently stopped promoting CB products until they get their act together and start policing their own. I've also never used CB as a Vendor which looks to be a blessing in the long haul.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    I like that, hopefully those chronic refunders will learn that they will have to pay for the products they get...even if it means doing it the hard way (litigation).
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    • Profile picture of the author RubenJames
      I prefer sending over the Goon Squad to the theives and have them cheerfully beaten to a pulp!

      Ruben
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      • Profile picture of the author rts2271
        Originally Posted by RubenJames View Post

        I prefer sending over the Goon Squad to the theives and have them cheerfully beaten to a pulp!

        Ruben
        You can't do that anymore, trust me.
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        Mercenary development and deployment.

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