I come to you humble and need direction.

Book38 · 01-06-2009, 09:54 PM

I am not kidding....I am humble....VERY humble.

I have tried my best to make money as an internet marketer. There has not been anything that I have not tried. Nothing seems to work. I now turn to the members of this forum for help.

My main interest is becomming an "Affiliate Marketer". I don't have to carry inventory and I think of myself as a pretty good salesman. I am trying to to the ppc route.

If there is anyone that could point me in the right direction, it would be very much appreciated!

Mike

Christian Sawyer · 01-06-2009, 09:57 PM

I am not good with PPC, but have you written any articles? If so, how many?

Thanks,
-Christian

Kat Bartone · 01-06-2009, 10:00 PM

Hi Mike,

The key is not in 'trying everything', but in deciding on ONE model that fits in with who you are (your gifts, your skills, your interests, etc.) and STICKING with it.

What is your business model, and what have you done to implement it?

Jared Alberghini · 01-06-2009, 10:00 PM

You have found the right place... the only direction I could give you is to learn how to use the "Search" feature of the WF.

Take a look at this thread to get a little more direction: SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME

- Jared

Teresa Coppes · 01-06-2009, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Book38

There has not been anything that I have not tried. Nothing seems to work.

Mike

Mike -

I specifically took that quote because that may be your problem. Instead of jumping from one thing to another to yet another, stick with one path. As a newbie myself it is extremely overwhelming and there is sooooo much information that you just want to try it all and make money instantly. But it will take time and it doesn't help when you are not consistent.

I say what I say not to be mean but offer insight. This is an awesome forum and I hope that you find the path to succeed.

Teresa

Book38 · 01-06-2009, 10:09 PM

I am not new to PPC. I have a good ability to write the google ad and within a little time, I can determine what the market is looking for the most. Then I adjust my ad and my landing page. This has make me a few dollars, but only enough to cover the cost of setting up the campaign.

I like PPC because you bypass the Google sandbox and get the traffic now. I use subdomains so I don't have to purchase new hosting for each of my domain names (also, you don't have to pay for new domain names).

This is the reason that I don't write articles. Subdomains don't normally get indexed on Google when the theme is not the same. By doing PPC, I save money in the front end by not purchasing the hosting/domain names, but I spend in the back end with PPC. It only seems to even out.

I know there are some PPC experts here on this forum. If I can get some good tips from you, I would certainly appreciate it!

Mike

doylesoft · 01-06-2009, 10:28 PM

I'm a publisher, so I don't know a great deal about the affiliate side. It's easy to create digital products. Probably the easiest digital product to create is PDFs. A nice little free program from SourceForge called PDFCreator will take your document and create a PDF for it in the matter of seconds.

It's hard to give good advice over a broad question. ...At any rate... My best success has come from offering my software on a one-day (24 hour) discount site. I have had many sales in the same day and have done that on multiple days, so I can't complain.

Weigh everything and what you already know and find what works for you.
Good luck!

Book38 · 01-06-2009, 10:32 PM

Firstly, I want to thank EVERYONE for all your suggestions so far. None of you are "prechy" (Fred...lol...good one) or standing on your soap box. I DO SO MUCH appreciate your help!

What have I done.....MLM....ebook sales....merching products....hawiking stuff on eBay....selling on Craigs List....reseller programs for hosting company's...and lastly the one that I have concentrated on the past 2 years (part time at first) is affiliate programs.

I like them because there is not inventory to buy or store.

I do agree with the majority of you.....I need to stick to one thing. That thing is affiliate marketing.

And your all correct...I have purchased quite a number of ebooks from the so called Guru's and tried to follow their plan. I am at lease one thousand dollars lighter because of it. I have purchased quiet a few over the past 6 years.

Many of you have mentioned a business model. I don't have one. If you are talking about plan of attack, that's what I am asking for on this forum I don't know how to pull it off well. I know I am on the right track, I just need to guidance from the PPC masters.

Mike

Book38 · 01-06-2009, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccmusicman

Subdomains is your big problem...

You need to FOCUS on one thing...Pick a hot niche, get a hot product, focus on great landing pages, (subdomains being keyword specific to that niche) and then work on increasing your CTR and on page optimization, watch your bid prices fall and your profits increase.

Don't do multiple niche's on one domain...unless you've got the advertising budget of walmart and your spending money building an online store.

Rob

This is good advise. The problem I have Rob is trying to "find that hot niche". This has been the reason for the subdomains. I can't seem to find a niche to stay in. So I created a site that that I can experiment with. Seems that I am creating my own problem.

Mike

Book38 · 01-07-2009, 12:00 AM

What would be your advise on hosting. My old domain has been used for so many things. Should I just create something new. If it's a new one should I be name specific or should I continue to experiment with my old domain and it's subdomains. Then, once I find something, transfer it to it's own domain and hosting?

Mike

Christie Love · 01-07-2009, 12:19 AM

If I were you. I'd go to the Warrior Special Offer Forum and see if there's anyone there willing to guide you along.

jbreezy · 01-07-2009, 03:09 AM

Pick a niche...Stay in it for 6 months..build a list.

Have 500 articles up..either written yourself or outsourced.

Learn PPC - OR at least get good at it. I think there is a product called PPC Coach that I've heard people raving about.

Master the art of Video Marketing and submit your stuff to all the major video networks.

Make 30-40 Squidoo Pages and Hub Pages for your particular niche.

Get a list manager

If you do this..in six months you should have a steady income.

cyndinar · 01-07-2009, 03:33 AM

This my personal opinion.

Forget about affiliate ppc etc.

Make your own product and learn seo.

or

Learn how to trade.Check my sig for this.

Whatever solution you will choose it will not be easy and it will take years to reach profitabilty.

Dont quit your daily job if you dont have means to support your self .

Read and practice for thousands of hours whatever you choose .

Cheers

B

philstutt · 01-07-2009, 04:10 AM

Hi,

I have had some success using classified ads on eBay and directing the traffic to the affiliate's sales page. It costs very little and so you can afford to experiment without flushing too much money down the loo.

TLTheLiberator · 01-07-2009, 07:51 AM

It's 10x easier for a newbie to make good money outside the "how to make money" niche.

Why?

Your intended prospects are not trying to sell anything to you and are naturally more responsive.

And...

PPC marketing is not very newbie friendly - especially in the IM market and at the larger PPC engines.

Hope This Helps!!

TL

Suzanne Morrison · 01-07-2009, 08:06 AM

Hi Mike,

It depends on what your chosen niche is?

Is it related to your current domain name?

If not, then you would be better getting a new domain. Try doing some keyword research first on the Google Adwords keyword tool and come up with some good keyword phrases related to your niche. If you can get a domain that has your keywords in it, this will help you.

Cheers,
Suzanne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Book38

What would be your advise on hosting. My old domain has been used for so many things. Should I just create something new. If it's a new one should I be name specific or should I continue to experiment with my old domain and it's subdomains. Then, once I find something, transfer it to it's own domain and hosting?

Mike

Book38 · 01-07-2009, 01:26 PM

Thanks so much to everyone for your responses.

To those that suggested I write a book or some veriation of that....I am not the writting type. I cannot put a book together to save my life.

I do agree that I need (and will) stay away from the "How To Make Money Online" niche. There is so much competition in that area.

I do like PPC and I am not new to it, just not as good as I need to be yet. But there is money in it when I locate the right niche and have a good landing page to correspond with the keywords I use.

I guess it's down to one last question which is ..... How do you go about looking for a niche.??

Mike

P.S. For those who suggested I stick with one thing....I agree....it will be affiliate marketing. I like not having to invest in inventory and I have had a few selling jobs business to business.....Online selling should not be that different if I can find the right niche.

01-06-2009, 09:54 PM	#1
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01-06-2009, 09:57 PM	#2
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01-06-2009, 10:09 PM	#6
Book38 Mid-South Abstract Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 16 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I come to you humble and need direction. I am not new to PPC. I have a good ability to write the google ad and within a little time, I can determine what the market is looking for the most. Then I adjust my ad and my landing page. This has make me a few dollars, but only enough to cover the cost of setting up the campaign. I like PPC because you bypass the Google sandbox and get the traffic now. I use subdomains so I don't have to purchase new hosting for each of my domain names (also, you don't have to pay for new domain names). This is the reason that I don't write articles. Subdomains don't normally get indexed on Google when the theme is not the same. By doing PPC, I save money in the front end by not purchasing the hosting/domain names, but I spend in the back end with PPC. It only seems to even out. I know there are some PPC experts here on this forum. If I can get some good tips from you, I would certainly appreciate it! Mike

01-06-2009, 10:28 PM	#7
doylesoft HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: American Fork, Utah, U.S.A. Posts: 260 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 17 Thanked 28 Times in 20 Posts Social Networking	Re: I come to you humble and need direction. I'm a publisher, so I don't know a great deal about the affiliate side. It's easy to create digital products. Probably the easiest digital product to create is PDFs. A nice little free program from SourceForge called PDFCreator will take your document and create a PDF for it in the matter of seconds. It's hard to give good advice over a broad question. ...At any rate... My best success has come from offering my software on a one-day (24 hour) discount site. I have had many sales in the same day and have done that on multiple days, so I can't complain. Weigh everything and what you already know and find what works for you. Good luck!
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01-06-2009, 10:32 PM	#8
Book38 Mid-South Abstract Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 16 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I come to you humble and need direction. Firstly, I want to thank EVERYONE for all your suggestions so far. None of you are "prechy" (Fred...lol...good one) or standing on your soap box. I DO SO MUCH appreciate your help! What have I done.....MLM....ebook sales....merching products....hawiking stuff on eBay....selling on Craigs List....reseller programs for hosting company's...and lastly the one that I have concentrated on the past 2 years (part time at first) is affiliate programs. I like them because there is not inventory to buy or store. I do agree with the majority of you.....I need to stick to one thing. That thing is affiliate marketing. And your all correct...I have purchased quite a number of ebooks from the so called Guru's and tried to follow their plan. I am at lease one thousand dollars lighter because of it. I have purchased quiet a few over the past 6 years. Many of you have mentioned a business model. I don't have one. If you are talking about plan of attack, that's what I am asking for on this forum I don't know how to pull it off well. I know I am on the right track, I just need to guidance from the PPC masters. Mike

01-07-2009, 12:00 AM	#10
Book38 Mid-South Abstract Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 16 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I come to you humble and need direction. What would be your advise on hosting. My old domain has been used for so many things. Should I just create something new. If it's a new one should I be name specific or should I continue to experiment with my old domain and it's subdomains. Then, once I find something, transfer it to it's own domain and hosting? Mike

01-07-2009, 12:19 AM	#11
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01-07-2009, 04:10 AM	#14
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01-07-2009, 07:51 AM	#15
TLTheLiberator Please get a net biz plan War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: , , USA. Posts: 1,428 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 1,096 Thanked 559 Times in 427 Posts	Re: I come to you humble and need direction. It's 10x easier for a newbie to make good money outside the "how to make money" niche. Why? Your intended prospects are not trying to sell anything to you and are naturally more responsive. And... PPC marketing is not very newbie friendly - especially in the IM market and at the larger PPC engines. Hope This Helps!! TL

01-07-2009, 01:26 PM	#17
Book38 Mid-South Abstract Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 16 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I come to you humble and need direction. Thanks so much to everyone for your responses. To those that suggested I write a book or some veriation of that....I am not the writting type. I cannot put a book together to save my life. I do agree that I need (and will) stay away from the "How To Make Money Online" niche. There is so much competition in that area. I do like PPC and I am not new to it, just not as good as I need to be yet. But there is money in it when I locate the right niche and have a good landing page to correspond with the keywords I use. I guess it's down to one last question which is ..... How do you go about looking for a niche.?? Mike P.S. For those who suggested I stick with one thing....I agree....it will be affiliate marketing. I like not having to invest in inventory and I have had a few selling jobs business to business.....Online selling should not be that different if I can find the right niche.