Become an affiliate for WSOs?

by Ghalt
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I get lots of emails from various lists I've joined over the years that are redirecting to WSOs. Obviously they are part of a JV or some affiliate program.

I wouldn't mind being an affiliate of the WSO section of the forum myself, but can't for the life of me figure out how to sign up.

Anyone know?
#affiliate #wsos
  • Profile picture of the author Iwannakissyou
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Personally I'm on the fence about a service that charges you to be allowed to see affiliate offers.

      I've never paid to be an affiliate in my life.

      I know a lot of people think it is not much money - but that is not the principle.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Baker
        Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

        Personally I'm on the fence about a service that charges you to be allowed to see affiliate offers.

        I've never paid to be an affiliate in my life.

        I know a lot of people think it is not much money - but that is not the principle.
        I was very hesitant to join the W+ Affiliate program for that exact reason. Who charges to become an affiliate? It really turned my stomach to see, but in the end if I am going to make any money from the WSO forum, this is the only way, so even though I don't like having to pay the fee, I did.
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      • Profile picture of the author DaveDempsey
        Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

        Personally I'm on the fence about a service that charges you to be allowed to see affiliate offers.

        I've never paid to be an affiliate in my life.

        I know a lot of people think it is not much money - but that is not the principle.
        I know what you mean but it is only $3.99 a month i think. If you can make alot more than that within 1 or 2 e-mails. Plus the system is great and the commission %'s are awesome compared to other systems.
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      • Profile picture of the author SpinnerHawk
        Originally Posted by Ghalt View Post

        I get lots of emails from various lists I've joined over the years that are redirecting to WSOs. Obviously they are part of a JV or some affiliate program.

        I wouldn't mind being an affiliate of the WSO section of the forum myself, but can't for the life of me figure out how to sign up.

        Anyone know?
        Go to:
        WarriorPlus

        And sign-up as affiliate

        Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

        Personally I'm on the fence about a service that charges you to be allowed to see affiliate offers.

        I've never paid to be an affiliate in my life.

        I know a lot of people think it is not much money - but that is not the principle.
        I couldn't agree more, it's kinda new concept for me. And they only accept paypal as payment option, I'm not into paypal that much anymore. But who knows, because I think WSO has some credibility in the eyes of warriorforum members, could have very good conversion.
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
    There's also digiresults.com where you can promote some WSOs.

    The WSO Pro one has the most to promote though I think.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yogini
    I didn't like to pay to be an affiliate, but there are some very good offers and some are 100 percent commission. If you do get refund requests, you need to take care of this in a timely way. I only like to promote products I've purchased. I have subscribed from some mailings lists that just seem to be one-liner e-mails for various wsos a few times a week without any other content.

    Also, for any wso you wish to promote through wsoplus you first need to be approved. It is not like clickbank where you can promote whatever you want.

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    • Profile picture of the author Rudder
      (GDI) Global Domains International charges you 10 bucks a month fee to become an affiliate - you get to use a WS domain for the month. So either you are being charged 120.00/year for a WS domain or membership charges.
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  • Profile picture of the author SebastianJ
    Will definitely look into promoting WSO products. Thanks for bringing this up in this thread!
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
    I like how they (WSO Pro) charge a few bucks to be an affiliate personally.

    I think it keeps the affiliates a little cleaner.
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    • Profile picture of the author Raja Kamil
      Originally Posted by JasonParker View Post

      I like how they (WSO Pro) charge a few bucks to be an affiliate personally.

      I think it keeps the affiliates a little cleaner.
      Agree, since so many frauder who buy a product then ask for refund, this is one kind of barrier.

      It's like two houses.

      One with fence and another one without it.
      So, a robber will choose which one is easier.
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    • Profile picture of the author BlairBarnes
      Originally Posted by JasonParker View Post

      I like how they (WSO Pro) charge a few bucks to be an affiliate personally.

      I think it keeps the affiliates a little cleaner.
      I agree with you on that one.
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  • Profile picture of the author Enis
    I think it's that warriorplus thing that everyone recommends. There are probably affiliate programs for those wsos listed in there but you'll have to sign up first.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by JasonParker View Post

      I like how they (WSO Pro) charge a few bucks to be an affiliate personally.

      I think it keeps the affiliates a little cleaner.
      Originally Posted by Raja Kamil View Post

      Agree, since so many frauder who buy a product then ask for refund, this is one kind of barrier.

      It's like two houses.

      One with fence and another one without it.
      So, a robber will choose which one is easier.
      This is an unnecessary step.

      Vendors are able to approve affiliates. Vendors should be paying attention to who they take on as an affiliate.

      Any yahoo can ask for a refund. Not everyone can get accepted into an affiliate program where the vendor is doing his due diligence and getting to know his affiliates better.

      Personally I quickly added a mailing list for affiliates just so I could keep in touch with them about issues or updates.

      I am interested in those who take an interest in me.
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      • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
        Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

        This is an unnecessary step.

        Vendors are able to approve affiliates. Vendors should be paying attention to who they take on as an affiliate.

        Any yahoo can ask for a refund. Not everyone can get accepted into an affiliate program where the vendor is doing his due diligence and getting to know his affiliates better.

        Personally I quickly added a mailing list for affiliates just so I could keep in touch with them about issues or updates.

        I am interested in those who take an interest in me.
        I agree with what you're saying from a vendor standpoint in a way.

        If you look at it from the owner of WSO Pro's point of view, then he's probably protecting his own keester since he wouldn't be able to monitor all of the affiliates who are trying to get accepted.

        So for Mike Lantz I guess it's either spend money hiring someone to monitor it, or make money by eliminating the situation.

        Plus you have to think about how other affiliate programs work. The owner of the affiliate network usually gets a cut per sale anyway upon each sale. Since the money is going straight to the affiliate's account and vendor's account, then he doesn't get a cut of it.

        So you're actually giving up less to pay that measly $3 per month or whatever it is... rather than giving up a buck or sale or whatever it is to an affiliate network owner.

        I don't know... you got me thinking about why someone would charge for an affiliate program That's all I can think of.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
          Originally Posted by JasonParker View Post

          I agree with what you're saying from a vendor standpoint in a way.

          If you look at it from the owner of WSO Pro's point of view, then he's probably protecting his own keester since he wouldn't be able to monitor all of the affiliates who are trying to get accepted.
          If someone is truly interested in me or my offer then I would expect that they can answer some simple questions should I not be able to verify who they are.

          I'm willing to even consider someone with zero posts if they are able to convince me otherwise that they know what they are doing.

          I can ask for a website, and ask how they plan to promote the offer. If I see their site I can quickly verify a lot of other information about them. It doesn't take much to make an informed decision on who is on the up and up.

          Warriorplus does nothing for me as a seller (as far as affiliates go) except tell me who is applying and link me to their profile.

          As a seller I have to pay for the license to list my offer and get affiliates in the warrior plus. There is no guarantee who ever I ad as an affiliate has gone through any other process than paying some money every month.

          However, as an affiliate going in - even though I can see peoples offers to promote there is no guarantee those vendors will let me affiliate. Paying does not do anything except let me apply from what I understand. Maybe some stats are popped up there too - but big whoop. I can get free stats on other affiliate programs.

          So the question is what does warriorplus do for me that is so special that I should pay an outsider? Warriorplus is not even owned by the forum here. It is just integrated with it.
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          • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
            Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

            If someone is truly interested in me or my offer then I would expect that they can answer some simple questions should I not be able to verify who they are.

            I'm willing to even consider someone with zero posts if they are able to convince me otherwise that they know what they are doing.

            I can ask for a website, and ask how they plan to promote the offer. If I see their site I can quickly verify a lot of other information about them. It doesn't take much to make an informed decision on who is on the up and up.

            Warriorplus does nothing for me as a seller (as far as affiliates go) except tell me who is applying and link me to their profile.

            As a seller I have to pay for the license to list my offer and get affiliates in the warrior plus. There is no guarantee who ever I ad as an affiliate has gone through any other process than paying some money every month.

            However, as an affiliate going in - even though I can see peoples offers to promote there is no guarantee those vendors will let me affiliate. Paying does not do anything except let me apply from what I understand. Maybe some stats are popped up there too - but big whoop. I can get free stats on other affiliate programs.

            So the question is what does warriorplus do for me that is so special that I should pay an outsider? Warriorplus is not even owned by the forum here. It is just integrated with it.
            If it's not worth it to YOU then it's not worth it to you.

            I've made 5 figures promoting WSOs that I wouldn't be able to promote any other way.

            So for me I'd say I've made my money back.

            I personally think WSO Pro and the affiliate program is the best thing to ever happen to the WSO forum.

            There's more profit potential than ever.
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            • Profile picture of the author Gijsbertus
              I agree with Jason, I made a little money being an affiliate BUT without a list.Could not have done it otherwise...
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              • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
                Originally Posted by JasonParker View Post



                I personally think WSO Pro and the affiliate program is the best thing to ever happen to the WSO forum.
                I never said it was a bad thing to have an affiliate program for the forum.

                I never said there was no money to be made.

                I'm just not understanding why I have to pay to be an affiliate.



                For example, I can easily spot who is using warriorplus just by looking at the button on their sales page. As an affiliate I could quickly see who's offers I should like to promote and just contact the vendors.

                I think there is a wide gap in the marketplace for someone else to create something similar to warriorplus, and offer an affiliate program that does not charge.
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                • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
                  Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

                  I never said it was a bad thing to have an affiliate program for the forum.

                  I never said there was no money to be made.

                  I'm just not understanding why I have to pay to be an affiliate.



                  For example, I can easily spot who is using warriorplus just by looking at the button on their sales page. As an affiliate I could quickly see who's offers I should like to promote and just contact the vendors.

                  I think there is a wide gap in the marketplace for someone else to create something similar to warriorplus, and offer an affiliate program that does not charge.
                  I hear ya, ma lady

                  Consider this though...

                  Let's say you sell 10 units a day on any affiliate network outside of the WSO Pro affiliate program.

                  You could pay over $10 a day in fees per sale to the networks.

                  It doesn't seem like you're paying to be part of that affiliate program, but really you're paying over $300 per month to be part of that affiliate program.
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                  • Profile picture of the author WillR
                    Originally Posted by JasonParker View Post

                    I hear ya, ma lady

                    Consider this though...

                    Let's say you sell 10 units a day on any affiliate network outside of the WSO Pro affiliate program.

                    You could pay over $10 a day in fees per sale to the networks.

                    It doesn't seem like you're paying to be part of that affiliate program, but really you're paying over $300 per month to be part of that affiliate program.
                    Exactly. Just because affiliate networks like Clickbank do not charge you an upfront fee to be an affiliate, does not mean you are not paying them anything to use their affiliate program. Of course you are. Every time you sell something they take their cut out of the pie.

                    Seriously, if someone does not want to pay a few measly dollars a month to promote products then they can't be that serious about it anyway. So there is no loss to us vendors.

                    Some things are worth more BECAUSE they charge. Imagine if the forum decided one day to drop the WSO fee. Can you imagine the state of the WSO marketplace. It's bad enough now with the $40 charge in place. Same goes for the Warrior Plus affiliate program. He needs to charge to keep some kind of order and value to those using it.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
                    My first instinct was that I didn't like paying to be an affiliate but that's the wrong attitude to have. It's a lousy $3.99 per month and that is what makes it worthwhile for Mike to institute the program.

                    I now make several hundred dollars extra each month, thanks to this program. And I only affiliate with products that I personally bought and use so I'm not slamming my lists with offers.

                    Your focus should be on the money you can make, not the nominal fee. Once I made that mental shift, I added the easiest income stream to my business.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
                      Originally Posted by bretski View Post

                      While the fee does HELP, I don't think it has removed this element completely

                      ... and Jill! I'm surprised that you don't have an affiliate account! Money... table...
                      Oh, in due time. lol - I need a proper site to do it the right way and it is in the works. But I'm not ready to promote properly at the moment so no need to be tossing money in a till I won't be paying much attention to.

                      Originally Posted by Tina Golden View Post


                      Your focus should be on the money you can make, not the nominal fee. Once I made that mental shift, I added the easiest income stream to my business.
                      It's not even that the fee is nominal. Just the principle of it existing.

                      You Tina are one of the few on a short list however of who I would approach to promote your offers.
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                      • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
                        I agree with the points about the upfront $3.99/month vs the fees taken out by a network like Clickbank. I also like the ability to approve affiliates vs Clickbank, where anyone can sign up and start promoting your product. Sure, Warrior Plus doesn't give you a lot of info on the affiliate, but it does link to the Warrior Forum profile, so you can check that out, check out their posting history and even PM them if you want more info about them.

                        Mike has created a great service overall with Warrior Plus, and if he wants and can get $3.99/month from affiliates, then all the power to him.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    I definitely think charging affiliates to join is a good move. I don't want to spend my day looking at and denying affiliate requests from time wasters - which is exactly what WOULD happen if there was no charge.

    Warrior Plus is smart in that if an affiliate joins for the sole purpose of trying to purchase a product through their own affiliate link, because it uses a split payment system, it has been setup so the vendor always gets the payment for the first sale an affiliate makes. So affiliates cannot cheat the system to try and get cheap products.

    Although this feature is in place I will guarantee you that majority of the people around this forum, who have never used WSO Pro before, would not be aware of this. I will bet you there are a lot of people every single day of the week looking for the affiliate signup page for Warrior Plus for the sole purpose of trying to get an affiliate link they can purchase through.

    By having the small fee in place it gets rid of the majority of these cheap-skates. Yes, someone who is a time-waster can still pay the small fee and join but most of them will not. Of those who DO pay the fee, if they are a poor affiliate and not making any money from promoting offers then they are not going to keep paying the monthly fee for very long. So once again we weed out the crap affiliates.
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    • Profile picture of the author bretski
      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      I definitely think charging affiliates to join is a good move. I don't want to spend my day looking at and denying affiliate requests from time wasters - which is exactly what WOULD happen if there was no charge.
      While the fee does HELP, I don't think it has removed this element completely

      ... and Jill! I'm surprised that you don't have an affiliate account! Money... table...
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  • Profile picture of the author ian buckingham
    I must admit i also gasped when i saw a charge for an affilliate program.
    though i suppose it would act as a good deterrent against the more scummy affiliate types.
    I know you can't stop black hat affilliates, but it does stop the 13 year old mindsets (or youngsters themselves) like another barrier i guess ?
    also i suppose if you join and pay for your membership you really do have intent to promote that product as you don't want to lose out on your bill , its a great business move.
    i can only try and look to the positive and thing of the decent reasons for doing this. though *Jeffrey Reidy* i think you're right you should at least have the option to pay from your affiliate account once you make some cash!
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  • Profile picture of the author simonbuzz
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    You can contact the WSO owner by email and ask him that you want to promote his product...that's the way I do it...
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