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Unread 12th Aug 2011, 07:34 PM   #1
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Default Job SCAM! Desperate People Do STUPID Things!

Greetings.

I'm putting this up here to warn fellow Warriors who, like me, have fallen into the unemployed 'hard times' category and have unknowingly turned to the scum of the world trying to find a real 'job' using sites like Craigslist.

Desperate people (don't think clearly and) do desperate things!

I've been a Warrior since '98 or so. I know it SAYS I've only been here since 2010, but I was a member way back when. Learned it's about having 'multiple streams of income' from Allen and made really good money through domain registration, web hosting (still do that), site submissions, affiliate sales, reselling a few products, and SEO. Even created this lame ass character, 'Rodney Ranker' and did a 'Search Engine Ranking Tips' (the info was good stuff, just lame voice) audio mini-seminar that Allen put in his private member sites back then. (Thanks Allen) Left the 'success' to go 'back' to my 'career' cuz I got bored being the lone ranger. Needed to be around people again. Stupid thing to do.

Lost that 'career' in '09, and I've spent the last few years trying to 'get back' into that moneymaking mode with only 'some' success. (SOOO much info on this forum that focus has been a MAJOR problem for A.D.D. me. Could really use a 'mentor' to help me focus and find my way again.) I do decent web design pretty cheap, but everybody and their mother is a 'web designer' now. I'm still hosting websites (since 1998) and thought I'd do a 'cheapy' special to bring some cash.

OK.. Enough BS history... Bottom line, it hasn't been enough to live off, so I looked for a job on CL. '3rd Shift Workers Wanted' in my local market from a 'national' 84 year old property management company. 'Perfect' since I needed to be home during the day. Professional looking website. Lots of pages and info. Filled out online application. Submitted resume. They 'partnered' with creditreport.com ( a 'real' company and site) for free credit report needed to bring for the interview. Oops! I know. I know. You guessed it. Info never GOT to creditreport.com! How could I be so friggin' STUPID?!! I KNOW better than that!

Desperate people do STUPID things!

Never gave it a second thought until I got the 'rejection' email today and the guy said "thanks for applying with our company 'xxx'management.com. We found our candidate". Hmmm. I applied with 'yyy'management.com. LIGHT BULB! oops. Checked 'both' business names and 'both' had websites JUST registered (from Australia - nothing traceable).

Called a PI guy I JUST built a website for. Gave me some tips. (...aside from stuffing my head down the toilet and flushing!)

Been on the phone all day with credit companies, buying 'protection' insurance from Equifax (covers all 3), changing bank info (though, I didn't put any bank info, but figured they could get it), changing passwords, running antivirus on my computer (none found with AVG, but wouldn't be surprised if they put 'something' on it to get info).

I'm on craigslist all the time placing my web design ads and trying to sell a piece of baseball equipment I'm distributing. It's the only place I've actually MADE money. I KNOW scams when I see one. But not this one... Somebody friggin' SLAP ME!

While it 'looks' like I'm OK - unemployment hasn't helped my credit - I'm wondering "what else could they get out of me?" (Please spare me the horror stories. I quit drinking a year ago and don't want to start up again !)

Learn from this! Be smarter than me. Research it before you apply. Phone number. References. Questions. Better yet.. tough it out in your own business so you don't have to depend on lowlife jobs and job searches!

It was like a SLAP in the face today, but I'm more determined than EVER to be successful again working for ME! (rah rah!)

So... What'd you guys do today?

Thanks for reading. Hope it helps someone.

Greg

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Unread 12th Aug 2011, 08:18 PM   #2
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Dude, relax. I am pretty sure you are overreacting. If you are using up to date FireFox, antivirus and OS, nothing to worry about.

What you are describing is old scammers method to earn commissions from "credit report" sites or so. They do it with fake jobs and also with unrealistically cheap apartments / condo for rent. In both cases, they ask you to complete a "free" credit report on the site they are affiliated with, before they hand you out your job or your cheap apartment (or cheap car for sale)

Your info most likely DID get to the credit report site (through scammers aff link of course). So the only thing you need to worry is that (most likely) credit report site has subscribed you to some sort of "credit report subscription" BS which they will charge you money for. At any time did you give them your credit card info? If so, watch out in your CC statement carefully... There will be something coming your way. I would suggest watch closely your CC statement for a few months. And also contact the "creadit report" site and make sure there will be no charges to your CC.

If you NEVER mentioned your CC data, then it is easy - just forget about it, nothing bad happened.


As to this:
'xxx'management.com. We found our candidate". Hmmm. I applied with 'yyy'management.com. LIGHT BULB! oops.

it is just the scamers did not change their autoresponder setup which prolly mentioned their previous fake company site. They have to switch those often, you know.

The good news is that Craig is making their life more and more difficult every day. They just dont leave him any other choice but to put million dollars into spam fighting efforts. It is like scammers from all over the world against Craig Craig has money, scammers are plenty... That is how it works these days... The same as "crap sites webmasters of the world vs Google" fight
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Thanks for the 'calm'.

No cc info or bank info was given. The 'worry' was in giving the SS number when filling out the form and the submitted resume. They 'could' have everything they need. I actually called creditreport.com to advise them of the scam since I had the urls of the (apparent) affiliate and form links and thought they'd want to trace it. They'd been getting reports of 'scams' from CL action (which could be just like you said). BTW... That 'company' website is already gone. Inactive. Kaput.

No record of receiving my info at creditreport.com, they said, so that led me to the conclusion that my 'info' went directly to the scammers. Maybe creditreport.com's site really was down when it said "we're sorry, we are unable to process your request". And maybe you're right.

I think I've done what I can - just in case - and need to get some focus back on making money so I can stay away from this crap anyway. Slow moving. Getting close to asking for help (which is really hard for me to do). I've seen lots of people offer to mentor newbies, but I'm definitely NOT a newbie... just been in a cave for years and trying to find the light again.

Again, thanks.

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Unread 12th Aug 2011, 09:13 PM   #4
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Dude, relax. I am pretty sure you are overreacting. If you are using up to date FireFox, antivirus and OS, nothing to worry about.

What you are describing is old scammers method to earn commissions from "credit report" sites or so. They do it with fake jobs and also with unrealistically cheap apartments / condo for rent. In both cases, they ask you to complete a "free" credit report on the site they are affiliated with, before they hand you out your job or your cheap apartment (or cheap car for sale)

Your info most likely DID get to the credit report site (through scammers aff link of course). So the only thing you need to worry is that (most likely) credit report site has subscribed you to some sort of "credit report subscription" BS which they will charge you money for. At any time did you give them your credit card info? If so, watch out in your CC statement carefully... There will be something coming your way. I would suggest watch closely your CC statement for a few months. And also contact the "creadit report" site and make sure there will be no charges to your CC.

If you NEVER mentioned your CC data, then it is easy - just forget about it, nothing bad happened.


As to this:
'xxx'management.com. We found our candidate". Hmmm. I applied with 'yyy'management.com. LIGHT BULB! oops.

it is just the scamers did not change their autoresponder setup which prolly mentioned their previous fake company site. They have to switch those often, you know.

The good news is that Craig is making their life more and more difficult every day. They just dont leave him any other choice but to put million dollars into spam fighting efforts. It is like scammers from all over the world against Craig Craig has money, scammers are plenty... That is how it works these days... The same as "crap sites webmasters of the world vs Google" fight
If you think that your credit / credit card / debit card / VISA / MasterCard / SSN, or ANY other type of identification for that matter, you think has been compromised, then just call one of the creditors up, like Equifax, and tell them that your wallet/purse got stolen and to put a fraud alert up if anyone tries to use your identification to buy ANYTHING!

They will then contact the other two Credit Companies which will also put a flag on your account.

What that means is that if somebody tries to purchase something, anything using your credentials, such as your credit card / debit card or Visa/MasterCard, or even retail cards, they will call you personally to make sure that it is a legitimate purchase and that IT IS YOU that is authorizing the charge.

This FLAG is valid, I believe, for at least 3 years.

Do it NOW! Call at least one Credit Company, and alert them to a "stolen or lost" piece of ID.

This is the best piece of prevention against fraud that I can think of that can and will help you right now!

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Unread 12th Aug 2011, 09:25 PM   #5
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Thanks JMB!

Good advice and exactly what the PI guy told me to do except I didn't tell them my wallet was stolen. Maybe I should have. I've got it flagged on all 3. Against my wallet's judgement, I did the 14.95 mo protection plan (can cancel anytime.) More like insurance, I'm protected for up to $1 million 'just in case' someone could try to destroy me (not like I've got a million bucks). My report is 'locked' from anyone trying to apply or inquire unless I give the OK. I'll be alerted if my info appears on any of the 'scam' lists world wide. Seemed like the right thing to do today.

I'll see it through for a few months and re-evaluate after that.

Thanks again.

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Thanks JMB!

Good advice and exactly what the PI guy told me to do except I didn't tell them my wallet was stolen. Maybe I should have. I've got it flagged on all 3. Against my wallet's judgement, I did the 14.95 mo protection plan (can cancel anytime.) More like insurance, I'm protected for up to $1 million 'just in case' someone could try to destroy me (not like I've got a million bucks). My report is 'locked' from anyone trying to apply or inquire unless I give the OK. I'll be alerted if my info appears on any of the 'scam' lists world wide. Seemed like the right thing to do today.

I'll see it through for a few months and re-evaluate after that.

Thanks again.
You're welcome Gmack,

However, the difference is, unfortunately for you now, is that you requested a lock-down for a "personal reason".

On the other hand, if you said that your wallet/purse was stolen, that is an "automatic lock-down" and would be free (at least here in Canada)!

I realize that you can ask for a lock-down, like you have done, but now it is costing you money that you don't have.

Wording is everything! Meaning, it's not just trying to express what you mean, but using "the right words" in order to save you time, money and/or grief!

I feel for you. However, what you've done is still SMALL POTATOES compared to what you could have endured!

In a few words -- It's all relative, however, you took action to protect yourself from future harm at a small price! Congrats!

Cheers,

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Thanks for posting this. I know a lot of people who are looking for work from home jobs and I'd hate to see them get scammed. I'll be pointing them to your thread.

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Take a deep breath, calm down, have a beer ... eerrr ... coke.

You know you've done the right thing by what you went through to protect yourself. If you're covered up to $1 mill, you're fine. If they steal more than $1 mill from you, you probably wouldn't have done the thing you did right?

Relax, my bank accounts got frozen tonight because the chip on my debit card was "tampered" with ... go figure.

I'm not panicking and I have zero money for the weekend.

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Thanks, Barry. I like the way you think!

I'm no fun as I gave up BOTH beer AND (diet) coke last Labor Day.... though I sure do THINK about it! Didn't know which was screwing me up worse, so i gave up both, been working out like a mad man and lost 35 lbs since Thanksgiving... That, I believe, is the beginning of the 'good' in my life with the rest of it just around the corner. This scam stuff isn't feeling so bad any more. Just a bump in the road. 'No pain no gain' so they say!

Glad I posted and glad to know people are there to help.

Thanks.

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