Unable to Contact Article Writer After Purchase -- What Would You Do?

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On August 11th, I purchased 50 articles, for $250, from an individual who was recommended highly here. His pricing tied in a monthly subscription, with a lower rate for bulk purchased articles, so I jumped into his subscription, as well. For obvious reasons, I won't say his name--this isn't a complaint about him or his service, but, rather attempting to figure out what I should do when such a large project is engaged and a writer does not respond to emails.

Per his website, my 50 articles would have roughly a 10 day delivery time. That is fine. In the absence of any notification of the order being started, is it unreasonable for me to send him an email requesting confirmation that my order was received and is being worked on? I know that Thursday (the day of my order) lies very close to the weekend, where some might not be able to respond to emails, however, I do start to get nervous when people don't respond more quickly.

Should I just wait a few more days? I'd like to at least know that the order is being worked on....
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  • Profile picture of the author GuerrillaIM
    Did you pay with paypal?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      That's only 3-4 days ago, Howie ... and two of those days are Saturday and Sunday? :confused:



      I'd send an inquiry email on Monday, myself, hoping for a reply by Tuesday ...
      lol...i know...

      I do think that 2 days were ample time to even just validate that an order was at least begun...

      And, to the OP, yes, it was through Paypal....

      For future reference, at what point of not hearing a response, would you deem it OK to pursue recoupment of funds through Paypal?

      I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, unfortunately, because of my heading over to Iraq shortly, I'd like to at least validate that the order is being worked on by this coming Thursday...
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    • Profile picture of the author Angela Neo
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      That's only 3-4 days ago, Howie ... and two of those days are Saturday and Sunday? :confused:

      I'd send an inquiry email on Monday, myself, hoping for a reply by Tuesday ...
      I agree. I think some services don't count weekends as part of the "working days". I'd wait a little more before coming to a conclusion. Most likely, they are still doing the job.
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  • Profile picture of the author mmsearch
    yeah i really wouldn;t be too concerned unless you do not hear anything by Mon/Tues.

    However, having said that- I am also like you in the fact that I like to hear confirmation from the vendor that 1. they received my order/payment and 2. work has begun or is scheduled.
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  • Profile picture of the author Content Publisher
    I'd start getting concerned perhaps Tuesday. It could just be that the writer doesn't work (or at least reply to e-mails) over the weekend, and they didn't get around to replying to you on Friday.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      I've never ever escalated things through Paypal, but, do you all think it would be reasonable to if I don't hear anything by Tuesday? Maybe I'm holding some to too high of a standard, but I do think that 2 business days is ample time to expect an email from someone you just paid $250 to....

      Call me paranoid, but I'd think most people would at least want validation that the order was placed and is being worked on...
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      • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
        Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

        I've never ever escalated things through Paypal, but, do you all think it would be reasonable to if I don't hear anything by Tuesday? Maybe I'm holding some to too high of a standard, but I do think that 2 business days is ample time to expect an email from someone you just paid $250 to....

        Call me paranoid, but I'd think most people would at least want validation that the order was placed and is being worked on...
        Sometimes they need to know you are serious to respond. I hired a lady that did some great work for me through eBay, then all of the sudden she stopped responding. When I escalated the case with them she finally sent me half of my order and promised the rest.

        I would also be looking for a new writer to handle your job.

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        • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
          Originally Posted by Benjamin Ehinger View Post

          Sometimes they need to know you are serious to respond. I hired a lady that did some great work for me through eBay, then all of the sudden she stopped responding. When I escalated the case with them she finally sent me half of my order and promised the rest.

          I would also be looking for a new writer to handle your job.

          Benjamin Ehinger
          Just looked at your signature, Benjamin...

          I'll give you a shot if I don't hear back from him by Tuesday.

          IMHO, communication with customers should be paramount. Two business days is even too long to go without a response.
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          • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
            Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

            Just looked at your signature, Benjamin...

            I'll give you a shot if I don't hear back from him by Tuesday.

            IMHO, communication with customers should be paramount. Two business days is even too long to go without a response.
            I agree with you that 2 days is too long to go without a response. Let me know when you are ready.

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      • Profile picture of the author donb01
        NEVER ESCALATE WITH PAYPAL if the supplier does not respond paypal will drop your case and YOU LOOSE.

        the only way to get paypal to work for you is you have to claim NO DELIVERED. even if it is something you are trying to get refunded. then pay pal will ask the supplier for proof that the item was shipped (physically through mail or ups etc...) this is why anything you buy on ebay has to be shipped to you.

        Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

        I've never ever escalated things through Paypal, but, do you all think it would be reasonable to if I don't hear anything by Tuesday? Maybe I'm holding some to too high of a standard, but I do think that 2 business days is ample time to expect an email from someone you just paid $250 to....

        Call me paranoid, but I'd think most people would at least want validation that the order was placed and is being worked on...
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  • Profile picture of the author wrongnumber
    if it was credit card, put up the case with your bank, if it was paypal, put up a case there, and after that, defame him here, so that he swears not to scam again... make sure to notify warrior CS before...

    Hope he replies soon!
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by wrongnumber View Post

      if it was credit card, put up the case with your bank, if it was paypal, put up a case there, and after that, defame him here, so that he swears not to scam again... make sure to notify warrior CS before...

      Hope he replies soon!
      I'm very professional and tactful with my approach. This order, in part, was apart of a series of orders, of various services, that I was actually doing as research...it's an experience, using several providers, that I had wanted to document on my blog. Of course, I did plan to use the articles....however, this order was also coupled with a few hundred dollars in $10 articles, and various other priced articles, as well.

      This was the lowest priced article writing service I had purchased (I guess I get what I paid for?), but, honestly, his sales copy was impeccable....and, he was highly recommended here. I do realize that circumstances occur, beyond our control, however, there should be channels in place to at least notify customers that orders have been received and are being worked on.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Hunter
        Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

        I'm very professional and tactful with my approach. This order, in part, was apart of a series of orders, of various services, that I was actually doing as research...it's an experience, using several providers, that I had wanted to document on my blog. Of course, I did plan to use the articles....however, this order was also coupled with a few hundred dollars in $10 articles, and various other priced articles, as well.

        This was the lowest priced article writing service I had purchased (I guess I get what I paid for?), but, honestly, his sales copy was impeccable....and, he was highly recommended here. I do realize that circumstances occur, beyond our control, however, there should be channels in place to at least notify customers that orders have been received and are being worked on.
        Just to be clear, was this your first order with this vendor in particular?
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Originally Posted by wrongnumber View Post

      if it was credit card, put up the case with your bank, if it was paypal, put up a case there, and after that, defame him here, so that he swears not to scam again... make sure to notify warrior CS before...
      You're ready to give that kind of advice based on this little info?

      Depending on where the provider is located and what time Thursday the order was placed, we could be looking at less than a single business day without a confirmation. Even assuming that a confirmation is considered standard process, that's hardly grounds for screwing with someone's reputation this way.

      And essentially accusing the provider of scamming already? I would discourage every member from doing business with you in any way, based on this post alone.


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  • Profile picture of the author Mac the Knife
    I have found (as MANY clients has sent me their experiences) that the less you pay for articles, the more overwhelmed the provider gets...they get TONS of orders and this ends up killing any expectations of delivery time and in many cases communication and even quality. He may be furiously trying to figure out how to deliver 300+ articles over the next 10 days if he got hit all at once.

    I don't care what service it is, those that charge a premium are usually more relaxed and organized in their approach...if price is your entry point, it will often be the reason for your exit as well (on both ends of the transaction)

    hopefully, all will be well since it has only been a few days. Good luck!

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  • Profile picture of the author Doot
    Just take a deep breath and relax it never pays to be too impatient, if he was highly recommended here he will come through
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  • Profile picture of the author Rough Outline
    I would start to get worried by Monday or Tuesday, it has been the weekend, you can understand why they wouldn't check their email.

    Before doing anything rash, I'd just wait a day or two.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    If it's one I'm thinking of, they don't validate when your order is received. They just put it in the queue and do it. They take a while longer than I like, but the writing is excellent. Naturally, I don't know if it's the same team, but it shows that MOA is not unusual.
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    • Profile picture of the author sdbagley
      Personally, if I pay for something online, I expect a confirmation within 24 hours.
      I do not think it is unreasonable that you are starting to get worried, but of course as suggested some people do not work weekends.
      If you do not hear something by Tuesday at the latest, I would cancel that order and dispute it with paypal.
      $250.00 is not something to be taken lightly in this economy.
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      • Profile picture of the author VegasGreg
        "Per his website, my 50 articles would have roughly a 10 day delivery time."


        Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

        I do think that 2 days were ample time to even just validate that an order was at least begun...

        For future reference, at what point of not hearing a response, would you deem it OK to pursue recoupment of funds through Paypal?
        Seriously?? Don't be one of those guys. You even confirmed they have a 10 day turn time and you are thinking of filing a dispute after 3 days??

        Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

        I've never ever escalated things through Paypal, but, do you all think it would be reasonable to if I don't hear anything by Tuesday? Maybe I'm holding some to too high of a standard, but I do think that 2 business days is ample time to expect an email from someone you just paid $250 to....

        Call me paranoid, but I'd think most people would at least want validation that the order was placed and is being worked on...

        Did you not get an email from Paypal saying the money was sent? That is confirmation they received it.

        If they do a high volume at a great rate, chances are they may not take the time to send another email to confirm what you already know. Time is money.

        Originally Posted by wrongnumber View Post

        if it was credit card, put up the case with your bank, if it was paypal, put up a case there, and after that, defame him here, so that he swears not to scam again... make sure to notify warrior CS before...
        Terrible advise, and not welcome per this forum's rules. A scam?? For not delivering a service in 3 days when it clearly says 10 days.

        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        If it's one I'm thinking of, they don't validate when your order is received. They just put it in the queue and do it. They take a while longer than I like, but the writing is excellent. Naturally, I don't know if it's the same team, but it shows that MOA is not unusual.
        My thoughts exactly.

        Originally Posted by sdbagley View Post

        Personally, if I pay for something online, I expect a confirmation within 24 hours.
        I do not think it is unreasonable that you are starting to get worried, but of course as suggested some people do not work weekends.
        If you do not hear something by Tuesday at the latest, I would cancel that order and dispute it with paypal.
        $250.00 is not something to be taken lightly in this economy.
        True, $250 is a lot for most, but to cause more grief and hassle by cancelling something that is most likely in progress. Paypal will laugh and reject this in most cases anyway.

        What would you put in your dispute? Dear Paypal, I ordered a service that requires 10 days to complete, and I want to file a dispute because its only been 3 days (or 5 when tuesday rolls around) and I don't have my stuff. Oh and 2 of those days were over the weekend, so please refund my money 5 days ahead of time.:confused:

        Oh well, I hope you really haven't been scammed as I hate when that happens to anyone, especially us cool Warrior folks. But I do think you may be jumping the gun just a little bit here.

        That is my 2 cents and my opinions are just that.

        Hopefully there will be a happy ending to all of it!
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        • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
          VegasGreg,

          While I understand where you are coming from, I don't think your response is fair to me. The way my post was worded, I didn't say I'd file a dispute "after 3 days"....in fact, all along, I've said I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. This is my post that you had quoted and responded to:

          "For future reference, at what point of not hearing a response, would you deem it OK to pursue recoupment of funds through Paypal?"

          When you say...

          "Did you not get an email from Paypal saying the money was sent? That is confirmation they received it."

          Yes, I received an email from Paypal. That validates that they received MONEY. That isn't validation that the order was received and that they are working on it. I'm happy for them that they received my money....maybe my expectations were set too high, however, I don't think it was unreasonable for me to expect a confirmation of receipt of the order and project beginning. From reading the posts here, it 'appears' like to MO here is just to place an order in a queue, though.

          fwiw....you can call me paranoid or impatient, but there are many people who, after paying $250 would at least want a confirmation. Sending money, as evidenced by Paypal, isn't a confirmation that something is being worked on, or even placed in a queue--just that money was received by them.

          And....VegasGreg, it's fine that you responded the way you did, but then you cap it off with something like this:

          Based on THIS, It doesn't seem like you are 100% certain that I haven't been scammed....

          "Oh well, I hope you really haven't been scammed as I hate when that happens to anyone, especially us cool Warrior folks. But I do think you may be jumping the gun just a little bit here."

          Based on the use of words like "I hope" and "I think" and "may", I believe my outlook so far is justified. No, I'm not going to Paypal right away, but I'm also not discounting it as an option at a later date.

          Responding to email is a part of business. In business, it rarely matters what YOU think, but, instead, how things are perceived by customers. Yes, the articles were "only $5", however, myself, and others, are still paying customers. I don't expect pages of dialogue in response, but I don't think it's unreasonable to at least expect acknowledgment. The perception, for me (and it could be for others, as well), is that customers are just being ignored. If he doesn't deem it important enough or worth his time to respond, that's his prerogative....based on the experience, I'd be well within my rights to never use his service again. That's my right just as much as it's his right to not respond.

          Originally Posted by VegasGreg View Post


          Seriously?? Don't be one of those guys. You even confirmed they have a 10 day turn time and you are thinking of filing a dispute after 3 days??

          Did you not get an email from Paypal saying the money was sent? That is confirmation they received it.

          If they do a high volume at a great rate, chances are they may not take the time to send another email to confirm what you already know. Time is money.

          Terrible advise, and not welcome per this forum's rules. A scam?? For not delivering a service in 3 days when it clearly says 10 days.

          My thoughts exactly.

          True, $250 is a lot for most, but to cause more grief and hassle by cancelling something that is most likely in progress. Paypal will laugh and reject this in most cases anyway.

          What would you put in your dispute? Dear Paypal, I ordered a service that requires 10 days to complete, and I want to file a dispute because its only been 3 days (or 5 when tuesday rolls around) and I don't have my stuff. Oh and 2 of those days were over the weekend, so please refund my money 5 days ahead of time.:confused:

          Oh well, I hope you really haven't been scammed as I hate when that happens to anyone, especially us cool Warrior folks. But I do think you may be jumping the gun just a little bit here.

          That is my 2 cents and my opinions are just that.

          Hopefully there will be a happy ending to all of it!
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          • Profile picture of the author ebookzz
            I have bought articles in the past they say wait 7 days one ended up taking 3 weeks!!

            Just relax you payed via pay pal

            Soon enough you will get your articles

            But if all els fails you have 45 days from sales date to file disput to get your money back
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      If it's one I'm thinking of, they don't validate when your order is received. They just put it in the queue and do it. They take a while longer than I like, but the writing is excellent. Naturally, I don't know if it's the same team, but it shows that MOA is not unusual.
      Usually I'm good with the acronyms...but, what's MOA?

      ....btw...it may be who you are thinking of. His sales page is crafted very well, and I'd think it would attract many people. I'm thinking that it was probably placed in a "queue" and will probably be done, however, I had also made a request, that I had thought was reasonable, to have articles delivered in batches of 5 or 10 (maybe that's unreasonable?) leading up to the tentative completion, because of the sheer bulk of the order.
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

        Usually I'm good with the acronyms...but, what's MOA?

        ....btw...it may be who you are thinking of. His sales page is crafted very well, and I'd think it would attract many people. I'm thinking that it was probably placed in a "queue" and will probably be done, however, I had also made a request, that I had thought was reasonable, to have articles delivered in batches of 5 or 10 (maybe that's unreasonable?) leading up to the tentative completion, because of the sheer bulk of the order.
        MOA ... lol. typo. Just meant to say it's the way they work if it's the same people. Don't confirm it, since you can't because of the nature of the thread, but I use SEOGenerals, as I mentioned. Unless it's changed since the last time I used them, I don't get or expect a confirmation that an order has been received.

        I know from experience with them that it has been received and is in their queue. When the articles are done, they are posted. They are posted as each author completes them.

        Very professional service and excellent writing, as I've already said.

        ... And they do not work on weekends and they aren't on US time.
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      • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
        Whew, I can't believe some of the replies here. Paypal disputes? Saying the writer is a scammer? All because a business day had gone by without a reply? Wow.



        Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

        however, I had also made a request, that I had thought was reasonable, to have articles delivered in batches of 5 or 10 (maybe that's unreasonable?) leading up to the tentative completion, because of the sheer bulk of the order.
        Did they agree to the request BEFORE you placed your order?

        If you never discussed it prior to placing your order and/or they didn't specifically agree to it... then yes, it could be unreasonable. That's because you have no idea how this company's operation works.

        Example: They could havea team of writers who'll do all the work at once. So they may not even start your order until the 10th day.

        Another example: Maybe they're working on your articles right now, but on the delivery day someone proofs them all at once.

        Or maybe they have a system in place for the whole process, and delivering smaller batches of the order just doesn't work into that system very well.


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        • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
          "Did they agree to the request BEFORE you placed your order?"

          No. My bad. An email was sent prior to purchase, I didn't hear a response, but I decided to move forward. It is what it is....the request would have made things a little easier on me, in lieu of being potentially cut off from the internet by the end of the week (essentially, at least receiving some of the articles early...), but it wasn't imperative. It didn't hurt to ask, so I asked.

          That's a different issue than seeking confirmation of receipt and even acting on the ordering by placing it in a queue.

          For the record, I know you referenced "some of the replies" on this thread, but I haven't personally called the person a "scammer". (Someone else may have?). I've mentioned that I am giving him the benefit of the doubt. A paypal dispute would be a reasonable course of action...eventually....as it would be for anyone who shelled out $250 and received nothing.

          I'm not a nightmare/red flag customer. I don't need to have 100 long-winded exchanges, with the service provider. In fact, heck, I don't care if he responds with a simple "Yes." or "No.". Unfortunately, it's very difficult to know how "this" operation, or any operation for that matter, works, until you actually engage them. Call it a bad decision or a good decision, but I chose to move forward because of recommendations--I can take responsibility for my decisions, and I will.

          My main point all comes down to communication and perception. For a customer to be ignored, or tagged as a red flag customer, simply because they had wanted validation beyond a Paypal receipt showing that money was sent, 'could' cause that provider to loose out in thousands in extra business. That's a risk that he is taking by not responding to a simple email.

          Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

          Whew, I can't believe some of the replies here. Paypal disputes? Saying the writer is a scammer? All because a business day had gone by without a reply? Wow.





          Did they agree to the request BEFORE you placed your order?

          If you never discussed it prior to placing your order and/or they didn't specifically agree to it... then yes, it could be unreasonable. That's because you have no idea how this company's operation works.

          Example: They could havea team of writers who'll do all the work at once. So they may not even start your order until the 10th day.

          Another example: Maybe they're working on your articles right now, but on the delivery day someone proofs them all at once.

          Or maybe they have a system in place for the whole process, and delivering smaller batches of the order just doesn't work into that system very well.


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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by GarrieWilson View Post

      Susan: Who do you use? I'm looking for someone.
      If I'm not in a big hurry, I use SEO Generals. seogenerals.com. Top notch writing. Got only a couple of articles out of hundreds that I've ordered that were sub-par and I got rewrites on those.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jaymark
    I would think for an order of that size, the author would have responded fairly quickly at least to confirm the order and clarify any questions. An order of that size normally involves a lot of different topics, keywords, etc.

    Hopefully it is merely a situation where the person is away for a few days. I had a situation with someone who didn't respond to me for several days and I got nervous. Turns out that his computer had a virus and he had no way to check emails.

    But did you happen to get his phone number? When all else fails, give that a try. And lastly if you feel you may have been scammed, you hopefully paid by Paypal. That is the way in which I get paid and it works out very well.

    File a complaint with Paypal. They will investigate and if they feel the guy skipped town with your money, they will try to reverse it from his Paypal account (assuming there is a remaining balance).

    Anyway I hope you get this resolved and that it turns out to be a simple misunderstanding. Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author BridgetSielicki
    If you are uneasy, I don't think there is any problem sending him a quick note to make sure all is in order. But it has only been a few days, I'm sure everything is fine. And if not, you did pay through paypal, so you have that recourse.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      In the absence of any notification of the order being started
      I guess I don't see what the problem is. Did he tell you he would let you know when he started the articles? Maybe he'll start the next workday - tomorrow. I don't know why you would be upset when only ONE business day has passed since you placed the order. When he starts is nothing - as long as he finishes when he promised.

      I think you are being unreasonable and need to be patient for a few days. If the order isn't delivered when promised, then you have something to complain about.

      File a complaint with Paypal.
      That is ridiculous. The order was placed on Thursday - this is Sunday. Nothing is due or overdue and there is no reason to be filing complaints. All you would do is label yourself as someone impossible to work with.

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  • Profile picture of the author BethW1
    If you paid with PayPal you will not have a problem getting your money back or at least opening up a claim. It is still early. I had a similar issue, the guy I hired had sent me an email but it was stuck in my spam folder. Double check and make sure the address is in your white list. good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Tim_Carter
      Wrong!

      This is a service. You are sol with Paypal. And PP always sides with the seller on digital products. It's in their terms.

      Originally Posted by BethW1 View Post

      If you paid with PayPal you will not have a problem getting your money back or at least opening up a claim. It is still early. I had a similar issue, the guy I hired had sent me an email but it was stuck in my spam folder. Double check and make sure the address is in your white list. good luck!
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      • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
        The issue isn't with the money. It's about the communication, or lack thereof.

        A small handful here have mentioned how they run their businesses, and they have been polar opposites, compared to what I've experienced with this company/service. I'm not calling him a scammer...and I've said many times that I'd give him the benefit of the doubt.

        If I'm to be seen as a 'red-flag' customer, simply because I felt it reasonable to expect further acknowledgment beyond a note from Paypal saying that I sent THEM money, then that's unfortunate.

        The money spent, to me, is irrelevant. Whether you buy someone's highest priced package (which I did, along with a subscription service), or you buy the lowest priced package, like Nicole said, it doesn't have to be an email response crafted like a novel. A simple "yes, we received your order and it is in our queue to be worked on" would have sufficed. I find it quite strange that most here seem to be absolutely fine with making a purchase, sending money, and never receiving a response, outside of a standard generic Paypal note saying money was sent.

        I'd encourage anyone reading this thread to re-read Nicole and bhuff's posts....THAT's how businesses should be run.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          I'd encourage anyone reading this thread to re-read Nicole and bhuff's posts....THAT's how businesses should be run.
          Sure it is. No one argues with that. But you may not get top retail service from a low end outlet store - that's the reality. We can all say "we wouldn't do that" - but we don't work at those prices either. I'm not saying it's right - it isn't - but you knew when you ordered that your first email went unanswered. That was a pretty clear indication of the level of "customer service" this provider offered.
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        • Profile picture of the author bhuff85
          Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

          I find it quite strange that most here seem to be absolutely fine with making a purchase, sending money, and never receiving a response, outside of a standard generic Paypal note saying money was sent.
          I have also found that odd as well. Seems like a good way to run your business into the ground by just blindly throwing money out there like that and "hoping for the best".

          Sending a confirmation is not only common courtesy, but it's how all business should be handled when someone makes a purchase, regardless of what it is.

          Think about it on the flipside - if you ordered a physical product online and never received a confirmation or shipping confirmation, would you just let it slide? Most probably wouldn't. The same rules apply to this situation as well.

          Just like Nicole said - no matter the size of business, a customer is a customer and the same level of courtesy should be applied across the board.

          Hopefully you get things sorted out and you get your articles. After that, I would probably test the waters with other content providers until you find someone you can trust.
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        • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
          Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

          THAT's how businesses should be run.
          That's how as a customer you would like a service to be run.

          You were notified that there would be around a 10 day turn around and you read that they had a good reputation, why do they need to send another email repeating what they have already told you? If their processes weren't working then they wouldn't have that good reputation that made you give them a try in the first place.

          It might only take a few minutes to reply to you but if they had to reply everyone then the time adds up really fast. You mentioned earlier I think that you wanted the content to be delivered as completed rather than all at once. That's a red flag as it means they now have to treat your order differently to the processes they already have streamlined. You become more expensive than the rest.

          Price; Quality; Speed: pick 2 as you won't get all three. It sounds to me like they do know how to run an efficient business but it is a business that doesn't meet YOUR requirements.

          If your order isn't delivered Thursday week then you have every right to expect some customer service.
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          • Originally Posted by Fraggler View Post

            If your order isn't delivered Thursday week then you have every right to expect some customer service.
            Surely you're joking. Ever hear of the time value of money?

            Putting aside the fact that the customer is a guy about to be deployed to Iraq, what's he supposed to do, sit on his hands until Thursday week only to be told, "Oh, we thought you changed your mind because we weren't notified of any payment"? And then what of the articles he needed for his project, another 10 day wait?

            PayPal is *notorious* for missing payment emails. I spent over a decade on eBay -- ask any veteran eBay seller if you don't believe me. Sometimes the only way you're aware you got paid is a complaint from the customer.

            I'm absolutely fed up with uncommunicative providers and this isn't even my beef.

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          • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
            I had explained my situation tactfully and professionally, and said "would you be willing to?...".....

            "No." would have sufficed as an answer, and I would have been completely fine with that. That was in relation to asking if the batch of 50 could be delivered in 5-10 article batches. If they can't do it, they can't do it. That was a simple request that could be accepted or 'rejected'....so, they weren't really "my requirements".

            lol....I'd like to think I approached this thread well in all of my responses, but, somehow responses here seem to be painting me as a customer that everyone should avoid and "red flag" immediately....

            "That's a red flag as it means they now have to treat your order differently to the processes they already have streamlined. "

            They could always just say "No.".

            Originally Posted by Fraggler View Post

            That's how as a customer you would like a service to be run.

            You were notified that there would be around a 10 day turn around and you read that they had a good reputation, why do they need to send another email repeating what they have already told you? If their processes weren't working then they wouldn't have that good reputation that made you give them a try in the first place.

            It might only take a few minutes to reply to you but if they had to reply everyone then the time adds up really fast. You mentioned earlier I think that you wanted the content to be delivered as completed rather than all at once. That's a red flag as it means they now have to treat your order differently to the processes they already have streamlined. You become more expensive than the rest.

            Price; Quality; Speed: pick 2 as you won't get all three. It sounds to me like they do know how to run an efficient business but it is a business that doesn't meet YOUR requirements.

            If your order isn't delivered Thursday week then you have every right to expect some customer service.
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            • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
              Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

              I had explained my situation tactfully and professionally, and said "would you be willing to?...".....

              "No." would have sufficed as an answer, and I would have been completely fine with that. That was in relation to asking if the batch of 50 could be delivered in 5-10 article batches. If they can't do it, they can't do it. That was a simple request that could be accepted or 'rejected'....so, they weren't really "my requirements".

              lol....I'd like to think I approached this thread well in all of my responses, but, somehow responses here seem to be painting me as a customer that everyone should avoid and "red flag" immediately....

              "That's a red flag as it means they now have to treat your order differently to the processes they already have streamlined. "

              They could always just say "No.".
              Personally, I don't understand why it is so hard for a writer to deliver articles in smaller batches. This is actually something I would prefer to do considering it is easier to concentrate on a larger project in smaller bits and pieces.

              I think you have been quite tactful throughout this situation and your expectations are not outrageous at all.

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            • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
              Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

              lol....I'd like to think I approached this thread well in all of my responses, but, somehow responses here seem to be painting me as a customer that everyone should avoid and "red flag" immediately....
              I am just saying that you may be a customer that THEY want to avoid. (I never said you were a bad customer).

              As for what I expect:

              I do expect a notification of order recieved, whether it be automatically generated or written manually. I expect notification in advance that my order won't be delivered on time. I expect to receive a response, if I have questions, within 2 days their time. I don't expect to receive any responses over the weekend - their time.

              If I don't get what I expect from a service I take my money and give it to someone who appreciates my business.

              Edit: pricing absolutely matters.
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  • Profile picture of the author carloru
    The problem is that sometimes writers take on too much work and then they find themselves swamped.

    I think you can notify him once again and if there is no response, then you may consider trying to get your money back. This usually forces a response in many cases. Good luck.
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    Try to wait until Tuesday or Wednesday and send an email again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
    The 10 day turnaround time isn't even close, let them do their work. To start a thread about it is way jumping the gun. If I was them and I saw this thread I would refund you. Red flag customer.

    When entering a new business relationship, I prefer to take it slow. Start with one article to see how the process works and gauge the quality.

    But to answer your question...

    Should I just wait a few more days?
    Yes.
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  • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
    Yeah I would say go with the procedural stuff with Paypal but don't jump to the revenge and defamation just yet. Give the guy a chance to redeem himself and show whether he is interested in doing that because it would very well be a complication or something. If you figure out he had all intentions to do this from the beginning, then you can do whatever you want :p
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    • Profile picture of the author Kierkegaard
      Originally Posted by YasirYar View Post

      Give the guy a chance to redeem himself
      The guy doesn't need to redeem himself - he hasn't done anything wrong.

      I can understand the OP wanting clarification, since this is the first time he's used this service. But so far nothing nothing has gone wrong.

      If it's an automated service, it's automated for a reason - the content producers don't want to get into discussions with their clients!

      I don't know who the providers are but they are probably middle men taking orders from customers and sending the details onto to the people actually doing the writing. The customer will be little more than an email address and a transaction number, the writer will be an email address and a paypal account.

      This system produces cheap articles (50 for $250) but you can't expect much in the way of interaction.
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  • Profile picture of the author harrietfredge
    If it was really highly recommended to you then you should just entrust everything to the person who made such recommendations. Before getting into a business deal like this, you have to make an agreement that they have to make such updates for you so that next time around you will be at ease and won't worry anymore.
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  • Profile picture of the author DanielDeus
    When someone defaults on their mortgage (doesn't pay the monthy repayment), the mortgage loan company does not (and in most country, is not allowed to) get heavy straight away. They write, they call, they write again, they write with a 'we don't want to take you to court to get the money, but that is one option we might consider in the future'... Etc

    Then they get heavy later down the line, if they don't get a satisfactory response.

    In general, online and offline, if you have paid for something, it is almost always standard (and usually a legal requirement) to receive some kind of notification of payment and order confirmation. It would not be unreasonable to send eg 3 emails over the period of the 10 days simply asking for confirmation of the order. Something like...

    "So that I can make sure that the order has been successfully received and so I don't need to order again, maybe here or elsewhere, can you please simply reply to confirm that you have received payment and the order is in process. If possible I'd appreciate an estimation of when you think the order might be completed (approximately)"

    No harm in sending such a polite email. If 3 such emails have not got a response within 10 days then they are not someone to use again. Certainly don't go the heavy handed route until the 10 days and fully passed plus a buffer of a few days grace. Then you would be fairly placed to ask for a refund. If you get no clear reply answering your request then they are certainly not someone to do business with again.

    To be honest, I stopped paying for articles in this kind of way a long time ago, because it is such hard work to manage (as is the case here) - plus for the amount you paid for those 50 articles, I hire someone dedicated to me, within our team, who does the writing for me full time.

    And they do way more articles (good quality articles, too)

    They make 8 articles per day (1 per hour), so 40 per week, 160 per month - and the monthly payment is $250 (starting rate, more with loyalty and time)

    Plus because they are full time with me, I can train them to do the article marketing and publishing side of things too, so I don't have to do that part.

    I haven't got time to go into more details here now. PM me if you want further details and I will help you directly there

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    • Profile picture of the author Kierkegaard
      Originally Posted by DanielDeus View Post

      I hire someone dedicated to me, within our team, who does the writing for me full time.

      And they do way more articles (good quality articles, too)

      They make 8 articles per day (1 per hour), so 40 per week, 160 per month - and the monthly payment is $250 (starting rate, more with loyalty and time)

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      You have someone working an 8 hour day, 5 days a week, for $250 a month?
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      • Profile picture of the author DanielDeus
        Originally Posted by Kierkegaard View Post

        You have someone working an 8 hour day, 5 days a week, for $250 a month?
        Yes. PM me and I'll give some details of how
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  • Profile picture of the author joemayerich
    Sometimes people aren't as quick to respond as you would like them. Give them a fair chance though, if they aren't to your liking, move on and find another. If they value you as a customer, they should always be in touch on a regular basis, I know I am.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    You have every right to expect a confirmation. They got your money, they should let you know they have your order.

    It's possible that an automatic confirmation email, but got "lost in the email".

    I'd immediately send a polite email to the seller and request a quick confirmation that they received your order. Give them 48 hours to respond, then do what you have to do if you don't get an answer. However, I'd give them a secondary way to contact you, such as through a forum. Sometimes some email just doesn't get delivered.
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  • Profile picture of the author koyaai
    It should be the writers responsibility to reply or acknowledge the order... I personally believe its better if you waited for confirmation first before paying... I'm not too sure how it goes with him. Being a writer myself, I tend to confirm first if the order was taken note of, and then I ask for payment. That way nobody gets uncomfortable.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by koyaai View Post

      It should be the writers responsibility to reply or acknowledge the order... I personally believe its better if you waited for confirmation first before paying... I'm not too sure how it goes with him. Being a writer myself, I tend to confirm first if the order was taken note of, and then I ask for payment. That way nobody gets uncomfortable.
      Ideally, from a customer standpoint, that would be great...but, that's not how the system works.

      With regards to the "automation" aspect of everything...."automation" is a really great thing, but, in my opinion, "automation" is broken if there isn't something in place to notify a customer that an order was received and is being worked on....especially when the time frame for turn around is long.
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  • Profile picture of the author bhuff85
    As a content writer myself, I always make sure to send out a confirmation after payment regardless of what correspondence took place prior to the order being made. I not only do this to let my clients know that I received their money and when they can expect to receive their completed order, but it also protects me in case anything gets lost somewhere out there (as we all know things can get lost out there in cyberspace sometimes). Should any problems arise or anything get miscommunicated, I always have that confirmation e-mail I can forward to them for validation.

    I know that life is life and that there are times when people do have things that come up that remove them from their business for a short time; however, I definitely agree that sending out a confirmation should be common sense. It puts everyone at ease, takes less than a minute to send out and keeps everyone happy and informed.

    If I ever order articles from someone, I always do a trial first before any big purchases, no matter how great someone's reputation is. That's what I would've done in this situation.

    Like others have said, if you have no response by Wednesday morning, then I would try getting in touch with them again. If you don't receive your order well after the 10 day deadline with zero contact in-between, then it might be a good time to move to the dispute process.
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  • Profile picture of the author NicoleBeckett
    Exactly what bhuff85 said... A professional company will let you know they've received your order.

    As soon as I see a new order pop up (even if it's from a loyal customer who places regular orders like clockwork), I shoot them a quick email and let them know I've got everything. Sending a 2-sentence email takes all of a few seconds, and it's not like anyone's expecting War and Peace in their confirmation. After all, I know how frustrating it can be to order something online and never hear anything else about it. If I know I'm going to be out of the office for awhile during "normal business hours" (like on a plane or something), I'll even have an associate check emails for me so that no one feels like they're being ignored.

    If you send them another email and you still don't hear anything back, it doesn't necessarily mean they're ripping you off... it just means that they don't have a whole lot of consideration for their clients (IMO, of course )
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by NicoleBeckett View Post

      Exactly what bhuff85 said... A professional company will let you know they've received your order.

      As soon as I see a new order pop up (even if it's from a loyal customer who places regular orders like clockwork), I shoot them a quick email and let them know I've got everything. Sending a 2-sentence email takes all of a few seconds, and it's not like anyone's expecting War and Peace in their confirmation. After all, I know how frustrating it can be to order something online and never hear anything else about it. If I know I'm going to be out of the office for awhile during "normal business hours" (like on a plane or something), I'll even have an associate check emails for me so that no one feels like they're being ignored.

      If you send them another email and you still don't hear anything back, it doesn't necessarily mean they're ripping you off... it just means that they don't have a whole lot of consideration for their clients (IMO, of course )
      Now, THAT's the kind of regard a business should have for customers, whether they spend $1 or $250 or more....

      It really kind of boggles my mind how most here wouldn't expect or want anything more. All I've been asking for is what you say you automatically give to customers, anyway, Nicole....yet, it seems like I've been labeled quite harshly here....

      For someone who would gladly throw thousands of dollars into a quality service (and, not just me...anyone...), they may want to reconsider their approach to communication.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        Acknowledgment of the order would be good business. INitially you asked about "starting the order".

        What is concerning is this

        An email was sent prior to purchase, I didn't hear a response, but I decided to move forward.
        And I think that's the source of the unease. You made a decision to go forward with a company that did not answer your initial question. I wouldn't have done that - but it makes sense you'd expect some type of confirmation. I didn't catch in the initial post that you had no response at all from this person - was reading it as "shouldn't they contact me when they start the work" so I may have misunderstood that part.

        It's the timeline I had a problem with - and suggestion to file a complaint. Your "Thursday" might have been a very different time in the writer's location. They may not work on weekends (I usually don't). You are paying a low price so not sure you will get the level of service of a top writing group - may not be fair but may be true. Nothing at all wrong with an email saying "did you get my order".

        If you trust the people who recommended the writer - give the benefit of the doubt and hopefully your articles will arrive as ordered.

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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    You have 60 days to file a dispute with paypal so I say give the man some time
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  • Profile picture of the author George Wright
    Just a thought,

    No offense meant to anyone here.

    Some times the vendor is qualifying the buyers. Certain vendors only want certain types of customers.

    We buyers, myself included, do have the attitude that we deserve what we want if we are spending our hard earned money with a service. I know I do so I have no argument with that.

    On the other hand there are vendors who offer such good service at low prices that they only want to deal with "their kind of customer."

    To qualify as "their kind of customer" could mean any number of things from, "I want customers who will place an order and then leave me alone until I deliver, on time of course," to "Pay and wait or just ask for a refund."

    Usually these vendors have a number of potential customers waiting in line. I would imagine that, and I could be wrong, if a company is selling good articles for $5 or less, they really are not too worried about your/my $250 refund or no.

    I know from a buyer's/customer's view this is terrible, however from a vendors point of view sometimes the customer is not always right. It is a way of doing business I've witnessed many time at exclusive restaurants, Insurance Agencies and other companies who were more interested in dealing with a "certain type" than just taking on anyone who walked in the door.

    Then again, maybe they just took the weekend off.

    Soldier, Let us know how this turns out.

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  • Profile picture of the author Melanie Crouse
    I agree that a simple confirmation of your order should be expected whenever you order anything. I always get back to my clients with a quick email letting them know that I'm getting started, or when to expect delivery, or maybe to ask clarification on something.

    However...maybe an automatic response was went and disappeared into oblivion. Or maybe their autoresponder or whatever had a glitch. Who knows. A quick email asking them if they received your order should let you know what's going on and ease your mind. Actually, it would have been much quicker and easier to just do that in the first place when you first became concerned.

    Send them a note, wait until the 10 days have gone by, then if you still have nothing - go from there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kierkegaard
    There seems to be 3 kinds of reponse here:

    1. People saying wait until the actual deadline passes until you take action. (Fair enough, I think)
    2. People saying that the content providers should have sent you some confirmation of that they have received the order. (Fair enough, I think)
    3. People telling you how great their customer service is and how they'd never treat you so badly if you went with them. (Pretty opportunistic, I think).

    The fact of the matter is that when you go for the cheap option you get what you pay for. A company that is happy to let it's writers work for sweat-shop wages isn't going to lose too much sleep over it's customers sweating it out over $250.

    You dance with the devil and you pay the piper (whether or not you get to call the tune is another matter!)
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  • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
    You're assuming that the company may not have got the payment. Based on the comments about the company's reputation here I would assume that they don't have that problem. I also doubt they are waiting on an email notification from PayPal; I'd like to think such a service would actually be fully integrated with PayPal so they aren't reliant on something as flakey as email.

    Lots of people here are preaching how this company should do business when it would seem they already run their business successfully. To them this is probably just another order but understandably it is important to the customer. If you want better customer service then simply choose another provider.

    If the 10 days is up and the order isn't delivered and they say they never received it then you should start making some noise. That noise will chew into their reputation and they would be known for missing orders, not delivering, screwing customers over. That's not the case though, for now.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      $250 won't break me. It may break some. It's a risk I assumed, and it's a risk I can live with...and, I take full responsibility for it. As mentioned, I had purchased from several providers, ranging in price...this just happened to have been the cheapest. Although I do plan to use the articles, I had also hoped to blog about experiences using various services and providers.

      I do anticipate being cut off from the internet for a bit, pending some unknowns regarding my deployment to Iraq....this was conveyed in the email, and I didn't believe it was unreasonable to expect more than a notification that the money was sent from me, to them, via Paypal. That notification originated from Paypal, and had nothing to do with confirming receipt of the order, or whether or not it was placed in a queue or not.

      It is what it is.

      Perhaps, we could divert this topic to what each one here believes, and would personally expect, as far as business operations and customer service? Should pricing of services really matter? Again, I'm not asking for a novel in response.
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  • Profile picture of the author bidnessboi
    Did you get your articles after all? I am assuming you did since time has passed and you haven't escalated this.
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