Wanna a hear a joke?? CLICKBANK

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Guys

First it was the whole intermittent disaster with credit cards, tracking and all that stuff...

Now hear this: I'm wanting to open a CB account and sell a 1 hour instructional video for $130... I just asked them to boost the price limit they set on my account from $70 and they DENIED my application!

Why? It's simple - they said they didn't think my product was "worth" that ammount of money...

Well excuuuuuuusse me. I just forgot what my profession was. Am I?... No.... I can't actually be someone who SELLS INFORMATION for amazingly high prices because I am GOOD AT SELLING, can I?

No I can't be that guy. Instead, the lonely employee at Ivory Tower Clickbank felt they had to DICTATE what price I was to sell my product at.

I'm pissed off right now.

Sorry WF.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eric Land
    lol

    A lot of complaints about click bank here
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  • Profile picture of the author Neil Morgan
    How long have you been selling with them?

    In other words, do they have anything to base a "yes" decision on?

    A few years ago they raised my limit to $500 when I asked. But I had been selling through them for a while at the time.

    Cheers,

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  • Profile picture of the author richpeck
    Yeah that was the point.

    I've been a hugely successful affiliate, lining their pockets for years, but no products yet.

    She said I got no sales history so they can't justify raising my limit... but my question is "why does that matter so much?"
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  • Profile picture of the author amentajo
    No problem, I canunderstand why you would be upset about this.

    It is your product so you set the price.
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    • Profile picture of the author richpeck
      Originally Posted by amentajo View Post

      No problem, I canunderstand why you would be upset about this.

      It is your product so you set the price.
      Yep, my thoughts entirely.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chazzer
      Originally Posted by ccmusicman View Post

      Honestly, I want to go with my own aff. program for all my new products. Rapid Action Profits is popular. Paydotcom, 1shopping cart i hear is ok. I think there is others...intellifusion??? is that one...idk...I would find someplace else to take my business.

      Rob
      Rob --

      If you are serious about your own aff. program, I highly recommend GoldbarOne. They can't be beat for the integrated online business pack they offer. We're using them for our business and we really like their products. PM me if you'd like to know more (plus I can send you a link for a 30 day trial that's not on their home page.) Also, their customer service is top notch and sometimes when you're setting things up it gets confusing.

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      • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
        Originally Posted by Chazzer View Post

        Rob --

        If you are serious about your own aff. program, I highly recommend GoldbarOne. They can't be beat for the integrated online business pack they offer. We're using them for our business and we really like their products. PM me if you'd like to know more (plus I can send you a link for a 30 day trial that's not on their home page.) Also, their customer service is top notch and sometimes when you're setting things up it gets confusing.

        Best

        Sherri
        I hope they have updated their system because when I tried it (a couple of years ago) it was an absolute joke. Tracking was atrocious, not to mention other issues.

        Plus I still get their emails, even though I used their unsubscribe link. They go straight to my spam box, but I still keep getting them.

        Hardly the kind of system I would put my faith in.

        You might want to try another system like 1SC, Sheree - you're probably losing a lot of money.

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  • Profile picture of the author Neil Morgan
    I think we can safely assume they're not doing it out of spite.

    I guess it's to reduce their exposure to risks that could adversely affect their business. For example, their agreements with banks and credit card companies, as an example. Only they know the actual detail of that risk. You are just feeling the effects of it.

    Cheers,

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  • Profile picture of the author severt
    Pff Clickbank... I think we have 10 clickbank stories on this forum per day now. Let's just forget about clickbank and find a good alternative... Like PayDotCom ?
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  • Profile picture of the author anonymous123567
    That's not so easy when some of us have built pages focussed strictly on CB based products. PayDotCom looks like the next alternative though.
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    • Profile picture of the author severt
      Originally Posted by alexshelton View Post

      That's not so easy when some of us have built pages focussed strictly on CB based products. PayDotCom looks like the next alternative though.
      Hmzz havn't thought about that.
      But hej, if clickbank is not making them money then most clickbank products will be useless
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      • Profile picture of the author SMS
        The reason they've done that might be to reduce their exposure to returns... although $130 is a really insignificant sum. The dodgy economy seems to have put everyone on edge .
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi Rich,

      but my question is "why does that matter so much?"
      The same reason that WSOs have certain requirements - and in clickbank's case, for the reasons mentioned by Neil -
      to reduce their exposure to risks that could adversely affect their business. For example, their agreements with banks and credit card companies, as an example. Only they know the actual detail of that risk.
      They are wise in thinking 'what's the rush?' because I would assume that statistically, risk is reduced by proven ability and longevity - same as - car insurance costs, credit scoring or stuff like applications to affiliate networks and the websites you choose to use in the application.

      By understanding the nature of their business, you prove yourself to be more suitable. Hence, why taking the public rant approach might just be self-defeating and actually cause a longer wait.

      Hope this helps.

      Hi Chris,
      You know how Clickbank rejects products with any mention of listbuilding?

      There's a fairly new one there which is not only about listbuilding, it has that word in its title and domain name. I won't mention the product because I don't want anyone trying to get the seller in trouble, since from what I know about the person, it's probably a quality product.

      What a joke.
      Same answer. You answered this yourself when you said -
      it's probably a quality product
      That's probably what they thought too (without the probably). If someone's listbuilding product was rejected, perhaps that person didn't have the same credibility. If clickbank are saying that there is a 'no listbuilding product policy', then yes they might be causing the problem themselves by not being clear that it's actually not a blanket policy, but a selective one based on risk.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
        Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

        Hi Chris,

        Same answer. You answered this yourself when you said -

        That's probably what they thought too (without the probably). If someone's listbuilding product was rejected, perhaps that person didn't have the same credibility. If clickbank are saying that there is a 'no listbuilding product policy', then yes they might be causing the problem themselves by not being clear that it's actually not a blanket policy, but a selective one based on risk.
        Actually, that's not the case at all. They have been rejecting anything that mentioned listbuilding. It has nothing to do with product quality (which obviously doesn't matter to them- just look at the marketplace).

        I think you just insulted almost everyone who's submitted a product mentioning listbuilding.

        Risk has nothing to do with it. What is risky about mentioning listbuilding? Is that riskier than products they allow that teach how to do illegal activities?
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        • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
          Originally Posted by Chris Lockwood View Post

          Actually, that's not the case at all. They have been rejecting anything that mentioned listbuilding. It has nothing to do with product quality (which obviously doesn't matter to them- just look at the marketplace).

          I think you just insulted almost everyone who's submitted a product mentioning listbuilding.

          Risk has nothing to do with it. What is risky about mentioning listbuilding? Is that riskier than products they allow that teach how to do illegal activities?
          They approved mine AND gave me a price increase. You just gotta know how to ask I guess.
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        • Profile picture of the author WebScript
          Originally Posted by Chris Lockwood View Post

          Actually, that's not the case at all. They have been rejecting anything that mentioned listbuilding. It has nothing to do with product quality (which obviously doesn't matter to them- just look at the marketplace).

          I think you just insulted almost everyone who's submitted a product mentioning listbuilding.

          Risk has nothing to do with it. What is risky about mentioning listbuilding? Is that riskier than products they allow that teach how to do illegal activities?
          I guess I'm out of touch ... I didn't know they had a no-listbuilding policy.

          I don't know any specifics of any listbuilding products that they rejected, but could it be more to do with how some list-building programs include multi-level (many levels) commission structure ?

          Kevin
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
    You know how Clickbank rejects products with any mention of listbuilding?

    There's a fairly new one there which is not only about listbuilding, it has that word in its title and domain name. I won't mention the product because I don't want anyone trying to get the seller in trouble, since from what I know about the person, it's probably a quality product.

    What a joke.
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  • Profile picture of the author dmh_warrior
    Hey richpeck,

    that would suck. About 1 year ago they denied me a $197 price point... I had no sales history but I managed to argue it with them and after a few emails they approved it.

    Give it a shot - it might work.

    And please let me know how it goes because I've got a new product and I need to ask them to bump my limit up to $497... and well... if they say 'no'... I'm a gonna be mad-pissed as well.

    I really can't be bothered with a merchant account etc.

    Anyways, Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
    What I don't understand is, surely the higher your produce price, the more money they will make off you in fees, isn't that right?

    If so, it seems odd that they would turn you away...particularly based on what they think your product is worth. I mean, if that's the case then I wonder how some of the utter tripe that passes for a product manages to get accepted on there, regardless of price.

    They are a weird company, perhaps trying to claw back respect by trying to provide a "better user experience" in filtering out products...

    ...sadly, if they don't sort their tracking and catch up with their competition soon enough, they won't have any customers because they wont have any merchants.
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    • Profile picture of the author keyaziz
      Originally Posted by Nick Brighton View Post

      What I don't understand is, surely the higher your produce price, the more money they will make off you in fees, isn't that right?

      If so, it seems odd that they would turn you away...particularly based on what they think your product is worth. I mean, if that's the case then I wonder how some of the utter tripe that passes for a product manages to get accepted on there, regardless of price.

      They are a weird company, perhaps trying to claw back respect by trying to provide a "better user experience" in filtering out products...

      ...sadly, if they don't sort their tracking and catch up with their competition soon enough, they won't have any customers because they wont have any merchants.
      I totally agree - there is a lot of crap on clickbank...
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  • Profile picture of the author indexphp
    Dude.. you are not limited to Clickbank!

    Everyone here seems to think that ClickBank is the end-all be-all of affiliate networks... it's really quite hilarious.
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    • Profile picture of the author ShayB
      Originally Posted by Garrett Aren View Post

      Dude.. you are not limited to Clickbank!

      Everyone here seems to think that ClickBank is the end-all be-all of affiliate networks... it's really quite hilarious.
      But....I have 3 different niches I want to promote (not IM-related), and paydotcom does not have products for 2 of them.

      These are niches with a good market.

      Any suggestions for this? :confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author tomw
        Originally Posted by ShayRockhold View Post

        But....I have 3 different niches I want to promote (not IM-related), and paydotcom does not have products for 2 of them.

        These are niches with a good market.

        Any suggestions for this? :confused:
        Create your own product and clean up..?

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        • Profile picture of the author ShayB
          Originally Posted by tomw View Post

          Create your own product and clean up..?

          Thomas

          LOL Well, that is an option, isn't it?

          Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........:rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
        Originally Posted by ShayRockhold View Post

        But....I have 3 different niches I want to promote (not IM-related), and paydotcom does not have products for 2 of them.

        These are niches with a good market.

        Any suggestions for this? :confused:
        My experience has been, that the affiliate networks such as Clickbank and others- that accept anybody, are the worst for earnings, and newbies specifically.

        I do not think PayDotCom is a good replacement, and they're limited in the offers.

        Try some better networks like:

        Neverblue CPA Network - Cost per action, sale and lead generation affiliate marketing

        MAXBounty.com - highest paying CPA rates

        Health and Beauty Affiliate Programs by MarketHealth.com
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    Just work hard and use paypal and collect all the money.
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  • Profile picture of the author AgileHosting
    Given the tracking and credit card processing problems that have been reported here on WF lately, I wouldn't use Clickbank, personally. They're not reliable enough on too many fronts.

    I'd take a really hard look at PayDotCom.

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  • Profile picture of the author essmeier
    Just to rock the boat, I'm going to side with CB here. They make you aware when you first ask for product approval that the limit for that product is going to be $49. They let you know that they might let you charge more, but you have to know going in that $49 may be all you can charge for the product.

    I submitted a product last year, asked them to raise the limit so that I could charge $77 and they agreed to it. I doubt they'd approve me for a $130 product right now, and I wouldn't create a product with that price point in mind without asking them about it ahead of time.

    Sure, there's Pay Dot Com, but it's a whole lot harder to use than Clickbank.

    It's their market. They make the rules. You know what they are. Sorry it didn't work this time.

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  • Profile picture of the author tomw
    I thought that would make you smile...Ms. Marketing Warp Drive...



    Seriously though, there are countless other affiliate networks out there besides CB and PDC.



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  • i agree CB isn't your only option, plenty of other fish in the water.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin AKA Hubcap
      Originally Posted by AnarchyAds View Post

      Why don't we all pool our money, steal their best coders and make our own site. Allen Says will be the CEO.
      That's actually a good idea.

      When you're playing in ClickBank's yard you have to follow their rules.
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  • Profile picture of the author Duff
    I bailed clickbank a long time ago for this reason as well as others, i got myself a 1shoppingcart account and haven't looked back since! I hated having to play by their rules.

    Now with 1sc I have full control over who promotes my products and a lot more options that i didn't have before. Best move i ever made if you ask me!
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  • Profile picture of the author Fender85
    Are you telling me that with all the SCAMMY products on ClickBank that there's actually someone APPROVING these things??!! Jeez . . .
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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Luxton
      For all those people who are now thinking

      "Ohoh! Better steer clear of Clickbank"

      please remember this is just one person's experience and when other people chime in with their problems also remember people are more likely to post about bad experiences than good ones.

      Whenever I see rants about the usual suspects (Paypal, Hostgator, Godaddy) I cannot really relate because, touch wood, I have never had a problem with any of them that I haven't brought down on myself (by my lack of knowledge).

      If you use a service that you have read a lot of negative things about (and taken them as gospel) you will probably get a negative experience.

      Shay,

      Thomas' advice is good. Don't make Clickbank the centre of your marketing universe.

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  • Profile picture of the author ExRat
    Hi Chris,

    Actually, that's not the case at all. They have been rejecting anything that mentioned listbuilding.
    Really? What about this one you mentioned above -

    You know how Clickbank rejects products with any mention of listbuilding?

    There's a fairly new one there which is not only about listbuilding, it has that word in its title and domain name.
    It has nothing to do with product quality (which obviously doesn't matter to them- just look at the marketplace).
    I never said it was about quality. I did mention 'credibility' and 'risk' though.

    I think you just insulted almost everyone who's submitted a product mentioning listbuilding
    I'm not about to avoid the obvious, just because some people might be too easily insulted. Same as clickbank, really.

    Risk has nothing to do with it. What is risky about mentioning listbuilding? Is that riskier than products they allow that teach how to do illegal activities?
    Sigh. Why did paypal drop the sword on any two-tier programs? Was 2-tier really anything even close to MLM? In their eyes, yes it was a little too close. No chances taken. Why? Because they're not going to risk the whole of their business simply to appease a tiny subset of their users. Perhaps they were wise enough to forsee the financial difficulties we are currently experiencing, and wanted to make sure that they were seen as a legitimate money channel at a time when everyone else is being exposed as a ponzi scheme.

    Clickbank obviously have their reasons. Calling them a joke because of it can be a self reflecting insult. It's not me insulting anyone. If someone feels insulted by their clickbank rejection, perhaps they should see their own business through the eyes of someone the size of clickbank, and then they might see where they need to make improvements.

    Hi Nick,

    What I don't understand is, surely the higher your produce price, the more money they will make off you in fees, isn't that right?

    If so, it seems odd that they would turn you away
    A business of that size isn't going to make decisions about approving products based on whether they make X% of $37 or X% of $137 on one particular product.

    They are going to look at risk - the likelihood of returns or other problems, and how that will affect the 1000s of transactions that they make per day. Therefore they will look at statistics pulled from those 1000s of transactions, over periods of time, and then make decisions which are applied either across the board, or to large subsets of the users, in order to protect the whole business.

    I can't see them looking at an individual product, that might sell ten copies a day at $137, and taking a risk on it that could affect the whole business in order to earn an extra $200 per day for them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Without checking out your product and understanding the industry, it's just some low-wage slave who thinks anything over $70 is expensive vetoing it just because they don't understand it's value. If you charged people $10k to come to a weekend seminar and then wanted to put the footage on Clickbank for $150 - they'd say the same, but only because they have no idea of the actual value.

    Things are worth ---- what people will pay.

    If you have a group of people who would love to pay you $150 for some video and be happy with what they get, then it's worth it.

    Just ignore it and move on.

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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    >>
    Now hear this: I'm wanting to open a CB account and sell a 1 hour instructional video for $130... I just asked them to boost the price limit they set on my account from $70 and they DENIED my application!
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    problem: You said you wanted to open an acc, so you are basically a unknown vendor and i can see this being one factor.

    secondly...for me personally "1 hour video" for $130 DOES sound high, but i cannot say more without seeing a sales page and what the product is actually about.
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    • Profile picture of the author yoliferdi
      Originally Posted by Emily_Meeks View Post

      And the unfortunate thing is, the "not worth the price" verdict probably isn't unanimous - it's more likely they just had some worker who was in a really bad mood doing all the reviews.

      In my experience, it ALWAYS depends on who's working that day. Try talking to people over there maybe?
      I'm agree with you. Try talking to Clickbank employee and give them good reason why you think your product worth more than $70.

      If they still reject it, you can find other payment processing.
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  • Profile picture of the author richpeck
    Wow thanks for all the responses guys!

    I don't have time to read them all because they are so comprehensive but here's my bottom line on it all:

    1. Clickbank DO have a right to set limits on what they give out. It's just like credit now - they are putting their money, time and effort on the line and if they get a bunch of cashflow which has to be written off then they lose out.

    2. The employee at Clickbank - in my opinion - should have shown a lot more diligence to what I was saying - I rang them up (even though they hide their phone number) and actually explained that I had tested my product and it sold better at the higher price point. They still said they only put a $100 limit on things. Fair enough but I still would have liked to give it a try and if I went over say 5% refunds then I'd have to change.

    3. Although there ARE alternatives to Clickbank, you can't beat it for immediate, exponential exposure in ANY market you want. Ever heard of the 80/20 rule? Well 80% of your profits come from 20% of your work (your promotion)... and with Clickbank, that 20% can go a LOOOONG way. I'm actually factoring this into my business and am focusing on building a long term army of affiliates for my future PHYSICAL products :-)

    4. Clickbank doesn't suck - Yes I was pissed off before and I think I had right to be. I just paid $50 to get set up with them and was turned back with my tail between my legs. Anyway, Clickbank is one of the better networks I've dealt with. They do all the legwork for you and keep a surprisingly good rapour with affiliates, no matter how much you bash them. You WILL do a lot better submitting a product to CB than you would with PDC. It's just the nature of marketing - the more exposure you get, the more sales you get. CB gives you masses of free exposure to a lot of hard hitting affiliates.

    Thanks for your replies again.

    Rich

    PS - If you want to see the product that got "denied" a higher price point, it's at Back Together Forever - Get Your Ex Back - Quick-Start Course - I wanted to charge $97+ for a "premium" version of it.
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    • Profile picture of the author keyaziz
      This is just my opinion but I really don't think its fair on your customers to charge $130 anyway. Not for a product like that.

      Yeah so what if you can make that kind of money off people - I just don't think its fair - The only way a product becomes acceptable at that price is when someone is desperate, which I guess is what you are praying on.

      I looked at my own product and set it lower than originally planned - mainly because I don't want to rip people off, especially when they can get a lot of advise in a physical book for less. Yes I did work my butt off for my product and yes I want to make money but I would feel uncomfortable setting it at a higher price because I just don't think its right. (I bought some others in my field that were REALLY expensive for what they are and had no facts/research like a $10 physical book has).

      Thats me though.

      Good luck with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author activetrader
    Their demands are strange and they are also different from employee to employee. One CB approval employee told me, "please put your e-mail address on your thank you page" when it was there in bold letters in the middle of the page. You never know who is approving your product and you may get lucky or less lucky
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    this is a GREAT sales page, respect!

    however, your planned price for this is (IMHO) way too unrealistic.

    Please, go to your bookstore/local borders and then think about WHAT you personally would spend $130 (!) on.

    Would you pay $130 for a book or a 1hr "self-help" video in that niche?

    What would be your own expectations if you were to pay $130 on a product, eg. in a bookstore.

    I can tell you from my own side, if i were to pay $130 i would expect a HUGE box set, video course w/ at least 8 dvds and a couple EXCELLENT books, whatever subject, but i would certainly not pay $130 for a 1hr video.

    From that point of view, i think clickbank's decision was just concerning the price.
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  • Profile picture of the author richpeck
    Hey you guys

    Thanks for the further comments...

    I want to let you in on a little secret ;-) It's called a DOWNSELL.

    I was first going to offer my product in DVD format (with 2co) and download with CB... with the main intention of making the dvd price pf $97 justify the $67 i am charging for the download

    However, I realized that CB affs would be pretty miffed if they thought I was getting 2co sales from their hard work. So I tried to get the higher priced product onto CB...

    Hence the higher price. It would be $97 + $33 max for shipping.

    I know that will be seen as extorntionate but guess what? It also makes $67 look like bargain ;-)

    -- If you look at Traffic Secrets John Reese did this kind of thing just recently. However, he introduced a $200/ payment option.

    He then re-promoted the course as a $200 course. Obviously - if I put up a course and charged $200 people might raise eyebrows... but if I charged it at $2000 and then made a payment option for $200 a month, people will see the monthly price as an absolute bargain.

    You are raising the bar of perceived value in their mind. It's a powerful concept and one I truly intend to optimize in the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dmitry
    Hence the higher price. It would be $97 + $33 max for shipping.
    So were you trying to sell a tangible product through ClickBank?

    Also I believe that higher priced items mean more trouble for ClickBank should they start receiving refund requests... so you must understand them as well.

    Maybe show them your other accounts with them for verification of your credibility and they'll show more trust in you.
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    • Profile picture of the author richpeck
      Originally Posted by Dmitry View Post

      So were you trying to sell a tangible product through ClickBank?

      Also I believe that higher priced items mean more trouble for ClickBank should they start receiving refund requests... so you must understand them as well.

      Maybe show them your other accounts with them for verification of your credibility and they'll show more trust in you.
      Yep

      It can be done - just label it as a complementary product to your download. It's all in the TOS...

      I'm selling on CB now. If any affs want to promote the $67 download then please PM me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
    Wow theres a lot of people in here that have one track minds for Clickbank.

    If your using CB for your business model your in trouble already and limiting your growth. Seriously.
    • High refund rates
    • High per sale merchant fees
    • Difficult to follow up with your buyers
    • can't give 100% out to aff
    • Difficult to upsell using dynamic process (instead of static)
    • many more.... (I'm too lazy to list them all)
    Basically most of the factors you need in business growth can't be obtained using CB.

    The only thing possibly good about CB is perhaps their aff network. But again that has some SERIOUS issues too. If your operating your business based soley on this factor you should re-think your business strategies.

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  • Profile picture of the author chrisc58
    Hi there,

    I have used CLICKBANK in the past and they have been very good. Usually free things are not so good, however with CLICKBANK you can get a little lucky. The only thing that I don't like is the long wait for the cheque to arrive. You have to wait upto 2 months sometimes for your cheque.

    I must say CLICKBANK is good to earn a little money if you wish but these days everyone is trying to sell on a product someone else has created. As soon as I see a CLICKBANK screen shot on someone's website it puts me off big time as it gives me the impression that they are on comission and really pushing for a sale.
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  • Profile picture of the author trueclickerdotcom
    Sorry to hear that richpeck. If you are a really good affiliate they should take better care of you. I've got an idea if you'd be interested PM me
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Whiston
    First of all good luck on taking your product to the next next level! It's great that you are reevaluating the value and increasing your income.

    Neither Clickbank, nor Paypal, nor any other third party is the one-and-only answer. Simply put you can just say screw these jokers and run your own affiliate/payment system.

    3rd party services are great for convenience and speed but when it comes to things like this you gotta dump em' and move on (IMO). Case in point:

    I use 2CO for some things, but when they began running their mouths about how my refund policy had to match theirs on one site I (im)politely told them to kiss may ass, cancel my account, and find someone interested in being dictated to. I continue to use their service on a site where no conflict exists but won't hesitate to drop them from there if issues arise.

    I know it's frustrating, but as an entrepreneur you always have the freedom to give any service provider the boot and move on. Plenty of other processors are available, including your bank's merchant account option; and there are many great affiliate tracking scripts you can use as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tony Vercetti
    If they start making rules and decisions that are inconvenient to you, I would obviously be looking for an alternative solution.

    Its not like you were selling a product for $3000 or anything, but I sort of do understand their reasoning, in that the higher priced products do get more complaints, refunds, fraud, etc. But $130 is not that big of an amount to justify refusing it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas
    Originally Posted by richpeck View Post

    Well excuuuuuuusse me. I just forgot what my profession was. Am I?... No.... I can't actually be someone who SELLS INFORMATION for amazingly high prices because I am GOOD AT SELLING, can I?
    So use your selling abilities to convince Clickbank on the higher price. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
    It's bad enough that there are Clickbank "ranting" threads started what seems to be every day, but do people need to post replies to CB threads started months ago?

    C'mon... if you are that sick of CB, quit complaining about it and find another affiliate network already won't you? There are plenty of other great ones out there...
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  • Profile picture of the author nggablog
    I'm selling on CB now. If any affs want to promote the $67 download then please PM me.
    richpeck, drop me your PM.

    just let the people know that better to try another affiliate network such as, click2sell and paydotcom. They've some features that superior than CB.
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Anderson
    One of my partners (who runs some of the biggest name services in IM) wanted to list a simple golf product on clickbank. Clickbank approved it, he even had personal communication from them about it, then a few days later they decided to change their minds and reject the product.

    But none of this is unusual... clickbank has been listing and delisting, approving and rejecting, and denying price increases like that and having tracking problems and causing headaches for various people for years.

    Some people love em, some people hate them...

    But what gets me is why any publisher would punish their affiliates by listing their product on clickbank and then asking affiliates to promote it knowing the issues that have plagued clickbank for so many years when it comes to tracking.

    I much prefer using my own platform because:

    1. I can charge anything I want and I do not have to ask anyone permission.
    2. My processing fees are 2.39% which is 5-8% less than clickbank charges for one time and recurring.
    3. I can add and offer as many products as I want for sale instantly and they are ready for affiliates to promote instantly.

    Clickbank should only be used an an alternative advertising platform listing duplicate products with secondary landing sites while simultaneous selling the same products via professional automation systems and running your own affiliate program. This way you can enjoy the best of both worlds.
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  • Profile picture of the author WealthMaster2008
    I must say I have used Clickbank and I have not come across any complaints or stories like these..

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  • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
    Originally Posted by richpeck View Post

    Guys

    First it was the whole intermittent disaster with credit cards, tracking and all that stuff...

    Now hear this: I'm wanting to open a CB account and sell a 1 hour instructional video for $130... I just asked them to boost the price limit they set on my account from $70 and they DENIED my application!

    Why? It's simple - they said they didn't think my product was "worth" that ammount of money...

    Well excuuuuuuusse me. I just forgot what my profession was. Am I?... No.... I can't actually be someone who SELLS INFORMATION for amazingly high prices because I am GOOD AT SELLING, can I?

    No I can't be that guy. Instead, the lonely employee at Ivory Tower Clickbank felt they had to DICTATE what price I was to sell my product at.

    I'm pissed off right now.

    Sorry WF.

    Rich, bottom line they are protecting their arses. They don't know in reality whether it's "worth it" or not, they are making a judgement call to protect their business. They don't want a bunch of chargebacks or more bad press for selling "overpriced virtual product crap", to quote one article I read recently.

    CB now does 10 squillion dollars a day in revenue, there's zero requirement for them to take a risk on anything nowdays.

    Anyway, I really get the impression that finally CB's star might be fading. It still offers lousy functionality compared to any other program, it's payment processor whoever it is denies totally legit cards, it's support is average, it refund policy near a joke, it's long term tracking laughable, flexibilty awful.

    And I say all that doing over $100k a year with CB in various ways, I live with the bugger but I don't like it and infact new stuff my company does is moving to alternatives.

    Yes you get an army of CB affiliates out there, but they are only interested in high grav products so there's no real benefit with new products on CB.

    I would take it elsewhere where companies don't dictate what price you can sell your own goods for. Personally with their charges, as soon as you have a product in the $100 catagory it's home shouldnt' be CB anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author Taylor French
    If you want to put your product on CB, why not just add some value to your product? There are plenty of things you could add to increase the value in the eyes of CB. You could turn that 1 hour video into a whole course by adding stuff like checklists, reports, step-by-step lists, and a written transcription of the video.

    I've been through this myself. As a new publisher, simply adding a few more files beefed up the appearance and I was approved for the $200 I wanted.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
      Originally Posted by tx82 View Post

      Im going to contact an employee of Clickbank and tell them to get their f**king ass over here now and apologise. Im planning on launching a product soon and I dont want this shit happening to me.
      Sure. Sounds reasonable. They should apologise for following their own rules.

      Do people even THINK about what they say these days?

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      • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
        Originally Posted by Daniel Scott View Post


        Do people even THINK about what they say these days?

        -Dan
        Not this guy no, unless I'm very much mistaken he's the guy who was threatening members and their wifes in another thread which was just deleted. Surprised his account hasn't been removed, real charmer.
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