N00bie: Please Stop Peeing In The Hall...

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I've been thinking a lot lately about all the hoopla with one-line posters, n00b MMM drive-bys, etc., and just want to make the following observations...

N00b's...Listen up.

It doesn't matter WHAT "Mack" told you- I'm not interested in your MMM cr*p. In fact, when I see you post your count increasers, I'm gonna report 'em and add you to my "ignore" list. Period.

And...It doesn't matter if you get your 30 posts and saddle up a WSO. I won't BUY it unless you've shown me some value by posting thoughtful, helpful threads and posts first. Period.

Now, you MAY sell it to some others here...maybe quite a few, but I can virtually guarantee that if selling WSO's is your only reason for being here, you're going to run out of customers eventually, probably very quickly too.

If that's all you are after you're missing the point. The education to be had on this forum has launched many a 6 and even 7 figure income. Indeed, MY entire business was built on Allen Says' shoulders (from what I discovered here), and I do very nicely, thank you.

Here's the deal: This is NOT a "Marketplace".

This is a "Marketing Forum" and should be thought of as a kind of "Virtual Campus". And the "Professors" are here to learn and instruct...not "feed" on each other, regardless of what you may have been told elsewhere.

And, like most "Campuses", there's a "Campus Bookstore". That's the WSO and Classified Sections. But like all school bookstores, it's a very specialized marketplace.

If you have a "Textbook" or Niche Product, PLR, Tool, etc. that will really help other marketers make money, then that's totally cool. Post it up! As long as it's a quality offer, presented with integrity and good support, you'll do well.

But if your only goal is to post your 30, push out a rehashed, ill-researched piece of sh*t under the username jimbob1234, and then fu*k up the delivery and neglect to answer e-mails, or worse: fail to even provide a means for customers to contact you outside the forum at ALL, you are going to do irreparable damage to your rep and future here.

And That's Sad. You are going to get a one-off, miniscule drop-in-the-bucket of cash, and walk away from a million dollar FREE education.

See, we're NOT the "Market". Not unless you are selling *very* specialized tools and products explicitly designed to make us money. And the bar is pretty high on that, for me at least.

Far better to discover how to take part in the insane riches that are literally waiting for you "Out There"...In the REAL "Marketplace". That's what the WF is for.

This is my "Alma Mater", and it should be yours as well. That's how you should be thinking of it.

Please Stop Pissing In The Hallways.

Just My 17c :rolleyes:

Gman
#hall #n00bie #peeing #stop
  • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
    Oh cool, 17 cents
    I feel left out, I haven't seen any MMM stuff promoted here.
    Some guy had the nerve to go to the OT and ask how to get 30 posts. His only posts were in the test forum. And him and his sidekick said they were "too busy" to make meaningful posts :rolleyes:
    He's banned now
    But he'll probably be back. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author NewbieImer
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    Here is my response to threads like this

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...tep-guide.html

    Hope this is what your looking for




    Just my 18 cents
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    • Profile picture of the author Glenn Grundberg
      Originally Posted by NewbieImer View Post

      Here is my response to threads like this

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...tep-guide.html

      Hope this is what your looking for




      Just my 18 cents
      Do I hear 19c...lol.

      Dude, that's EXACTLY what we're talking about!

      Your post shows thought, and is well reasoned and presented carefully.

      Your post shows care and reflects a sense of community.

      Your post is useful and coherent. It gives value.

      Good on ya. Now consider changing your username to your real one so we know who we are dealing with. It will be best for your business all around!

      Guys like you, John? You're not the problem. You "get it".

      Thanks for a great post.
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  • Profile picture of the author InternetM39482
    I've read a lot of rant posts, and although most of them are quite true, I do not reply to them.

    This is a "Marketing Forum" and should be thought of as a kind of "Virtual Campus". And the "Professors" are here to learn and instruct...not "feed" on each other, regardless of what you may have been told elsewhere.

    And, like most "Campuses", there's a "Campus Bookstore". That's the WSO and Classified Sections. But like all school bookstores, it's a very specialized marketplace.

    If you have a "Textbook" or Niche Product, PLR, Tool, etc. that will really help other marketers make money, then that's totally cool. Post it up! As long as it's a quality offer, presented with integrity and good support, you'll do well.
    But the way you've explained things is really brilliant. What we get from the community in terms of knowledge is far more valuable than those quick bucks we can make from a WSO.

    Warrior Special Offers, in my opinion, are really special concept through which marketers can exchange their products and in disguise, information.

    I'm still pretty new to the community so I can't comment on the quality of WSO's run now-a-days compared to what were earlier.

    But I agree, posting just for the sake of running a WSO isn't going to take you anywhere. Building credibility and reputation is far more important.
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
      It's too bad that most of the posters your thinking of are either too blind to see past the $20 carrot commission hanging in front of their face...

      Or too dumb to see the great resource this forum can be.

      Instead opting for the quick "spam and scam".

      Ain't much point in preaching to 'em, the only ones listening are the Choir...

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      • Profile picture of the author Glenn Grundberg
        Originally Posted by Eric Lorence View Post

        It's too bad that most of the posters your thinking of are either too blind to see past the $20 carrot commission hanging in front of their face...

        Or too dumb to see the great resource this forum can be.

        Instead opting for the quick "spam and scam".

        Ain't much point in preaching to 'em, the only ones listening are the Quire...

        Hey, you're probably right, but I figure if a few new folks read this and become productive and valuable members here as a result, we're all gonna be better off.

        At the very least, there will be a few less "puddles" to step over

        PS - You did mean "Choir", right? :p
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        • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
          Originally Posted by Glenn Grundberg View Post

          Hey, you're probably right, but I figure if a few new folks read this and become productive and valuable members here as a result, we're all gonna be better off.

          At the very least, there will be a few less "puddles" to step over

          PS - You did mean "Choir", right? :p
          LOL, yep- sure did...
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          • Profile picture of the author Steven Fullman
            Damn right, Glenn.

            Oh...I can't leave it there, that'd be a one-liner.

            Aargh, now I'm just wantonly filling space...I'm whoring the forum.

            Jeez...think...add value, Steve...

            Erm...post comments on do-follow blogs!!!! You'll get some backlinks!!!!



            Nice post, G, totally agree.

            Steve

            P.S. If you need copy, give Glenn a nudge. He's nowhere near as scary as he looks (), and he's a powerful, persuasive writer.
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              • Profile picture of the author pavondunbar
                Originally Posted by famous2313 View Post

                who is noob?

                and what is MMM?
                "Noob" is a cyber term, or slang, for "newbie"...

                Someone that is "green" to a certain industry, or one that is new to an industry and is trying to learn the "trade"...

                "MMM" is for "Maverick Money Makers", a "get rich quick" program that tells its memebrs to post Spam here on the forum, which is clearly against the Warrior Forum's rules...

                There have been a lot of people here spamming the WF from MMM and it has made a lot of people pissed off in here...

                Hope this helps...

                Pavon
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            • Profile picture of the author Nvc
              agree!

              have to admit it looks kinda pathetic when noobs try to sell their "gasoline for water" whatever in this forum and pretending to be specialists in their areas
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            • Profile picture of the author Glenn Grundberg
              Originally Posted by Steven Fullman View Post

              Damn right, Glenn.

              Oh...I can't leave it there, that'd be a one-liner.

              Aargh, now I'm just wantonly filling space...I'm whoring the forum.

              Jeez...think...add value, Steve...

              Erm...post comments on do-follow blogs!!!! You'll get some backlinks!!!!



              Nice post, G, totally agree.

              Steve

              P.S. If you need copy, give Glenn a nudge. He's nowhere near as scary as he looks (), and he's a powerful, persuasive writer.
              Thanks for the nice words, dude- it's easy to do good work when you have great customers like YOU! And thanks for the hot tip on the backlinks...:rolleyes:

              @famous2313: n00b is newbie=YOU

              MMM is for a certain "program" put forth by a certain "marketer" that tells people to come HERE to Warrior Forum and Pee In The Halls.

              @eric: LOL, I spelled my own name wrong once in an e-mail, so don't feel bad...

              @mark: Thanks- there's a long back story on that hat- I had a guy on Twitter compliment it and assume I was a cowboy, lol. I had to tell him I was actually from Chicago and the only "Cows" around me were on my barbecue.

              Kinda blew his bubble I think...
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  • Profile picture of the author pavondunbar
    Originally Posted by winebuddy View Post

    where is the Janitor when you need him?
    Right here, buddy!

    I want to be the one that sweeps and mops the bullshit that appears on this forum!

    That's my $1!!

    ****I'm all about a dollar what the hell is 2 cents****

    LOL...

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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Kaye
    If this is a 'Virtual Campus" then this post should be "Required Reading" before gaining admission.

    PS: Freaking LOVE THE HAT!
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  • Profile picture of the author RobinSkeen
    Lovely as always Glen. I have always told anyone who listens that this place is like getting a university education for FREE! I think back to how little I knew when I joined here and how far I've come and it just continually amazes me. The trolls are annoying, but the people like yourself and a few others I could name make it worth hanging around.
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  • Profile picture of the author creative producer
    Thanks, Glenn. Speaking as a NOOBian(?), your post should be added to the forum rules thread for those of us just coming in. I find that spending time actively seeking out ways to make a meaningful contribution is a great way to jump start my brain. Getting feedback from other people gives me an even better reality check about my ideas. Thanks for motivating a formerly likely lurker to participate.
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  • Profile picture of the author bluet
    I agree with most of the above
    With all the P's floating around, well, I'll just keep my legs crossed, lol

    Noob One No OP
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  • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
    Glenn,

    You are totally offending the 'old geezers' here that wear adult diapers, and sometimes have an 'accident'.

    Some people just can't help but peeing in the hall.

    Shame on you Glenn... I hope you feel good about insulting the elderly.

    - Jared
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    • Profile picture of the author Glenn Grundberg
      Originally Posted by Jared Alberghini View Post

      Glenn,

      You are totally offending the 'old geezers' here that wear adult diapers, and sometimes have an 'accident'.

      Some people just can't help but peeing in the hall.

      Shame on you Glenn... I hope you feel good about insulting the elderly.

      - Jared
      Hey, I can do that...I ARE one! :p

      That reminds me of a Little Britain episode...LOL.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
        Originally Posted by Glenn Grundberg View Post

        Hey, I can do that...I ARE one! :p

        That reminds me of a Little Britain episode...LOL.
        I know Glenn, I just didn't want to offend you by bringing up your age... you know it's never proper to ask a lady her age :p

        So who gives out the Depends around here? I just peed a little.

        (what's this Little Britain episode you speak of, got a link?)

        - Jared
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  • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
    This is a great thread for me - even though I am the dreaded forum noob. Here's what I don't understand. Why do people with the obvious intention of scamming money choose a forum full of savvy I marketers to ply their wares? Seems to me like they are trying to sell ice to Eskimos.

    Also, as a noob to this forum but a veteran of a few others, I agree with one post above about having some stricter rules. I would even add that admin and moderators could get a bit crankier with some of the posters that are so obviously knuckleheads.

    Just my 0.02 cents.
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    • Profile picture of the author Glenn Grundberg
      Originally Posted by joannabenz View Post

      I never heard of MMM before, learning a lot here. Thanks.
      Great.

      Another freaking puddle.

      Could you scratch at the door or something if you need to go out?

      Joanna, you just did exactly what we are talking about in this thread. If this is all you had to say, you could have used the "Thanks" button that's at the bottom of every post.

      Think carefully...is there anything else you could have added to your post to make it of some value to the community at large? Anything at all?

      No? Then use the "Thanks" button instead of bloating the forum database with a useless one-liner like that.

      See, even if you were sincere and meant what you posted innocently, that's not what it looks like...It looks like a person with 8 posts drove by and "dropped" a one-liner to increase their post count.

      And that does immediate damage to your reputation here, and at the end of the day, that's all you really have that's really worth anything.

      Savvy?
      Please come back and "clean up" after yourself.

      Gman
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeHumphreys
        Come on G'Man... don't hold back, tell us what you REALLY think.

        On second thought... let's get it on video... put it on Pay-Pay-View and make a killing, huh?

        Mike

        P.S. Great post and even better bulls-eye call Glenn. Keep it up dude...
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      • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
        Originally Posted by Glenn Grundberg View Post

        Could you scratch at the door or something if you need to go out?
        Shit Gman... you keep insisting on adding to the problem don't you... You just made me laugh so hard that I completely saturated my adult diaper and it spilled over.

        I'm not cleaning that mess up... it was your fault.

        - Captain Obvious
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      • Profile picture of the author bluet
        Originally Posted by Glenn Grundberg View Post

        Great.

        Another freaking puddle.

        Could you scratch at the door or something if you need to go out?

        Joanna, you just did exactly what we are talking about in this thread. If this is all you had to say, you could have used the "Thanks" button that's at the bottom of every post.

        Think carefully...is there anything else you could have added to your post to make it of some value to the community at large? Anything at all?

        No? Then use the "Thanks" button instead of bloating the forum database with a useless one-liner like that.

        See, even if you were sincere and meant what you posted innocently, that's not what it looks like...It looks like a person with 8 posts drove by and "dropped" a one-liner to increase their post count.

        And that does immediate damage to your reputation here, and at the end of the day, that's all you really have that's really worth anything.

        Savvy?
        Please come back and "clean up" after yourself.

        Gman
        LMAO Goodness Glenn, give it a rest. Having a bad day, week, month, year? Nothing like picking on an older lady who may be struggling to make ends meet and makes a simple thanks comment about WWW info here, which is primarily what your first post discussed.

        I know you checked out her page and I know you see that she joined Jun 2008, with 11 posts I don't think she's trying to up her post counts here.
        Good God man, think before you dive!


        A thank-you one-liner she made. And you respond with a multi-line diatribe. Talk about "bloating the forum database" with not so useful info.

        Originally Posted by Glenn Grundberg; 11-12-2008 Re: Adsense plugins Problem..

        Wow- what a wealth of information you just gave us.
        He who lives in glass houses.... LOL

        Glenn, with all due respect, give somebody a hug today, get some fresh air, or something. Chill out. LOL

        There, I feel better. Now I have my one-liners covered for the next couple weeks. LOL
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        • Profile picture of the author Glenn Grundberg
          Originally Posted by bluet View Post

          LMAO Goodness Glenn, give it a rest. Having a bad day, week, month, year? Nothing like picking on an older lady who may be struggling to make ends meet and makes a simple thanks comment about WWW info here, which is primarily what your first post discussed.

          I know you checked out her page and I know you see that she joined Jun 2008, with 11 posts I don't think she's trying to up her post counts here.
          Good God man, think before you dive!


          A thank-you one-liner she made. And you respond with a multi-line diatribe. Talk about "bloating the forum database" with not so useful info.



          He who lives in glass houses.... LOL

          Glenn, with all due respect, give somebody a hug today, get some fresh air, or something. Chill out. LOL

          There, I feel better. Now I have my one-liners covered for the next couple weeks. LOL
          Hey, very kind of you to worry about my spiritual health, but you missed the point.

          Number one, while I called the poster out by name, I wasn't intending to attack her personally, and if she got that, well...

          Joanna, nothing personal. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings...I was using your post simply as an example. But you're in a hard-core marketing forum. This is NOT a "chat room", LOL.

          The point is that the post added no net gain to the discussion, unlike yours, which DID, however presumptuous. Her post was a thanks and a reference to the program we are at issue with lately. Better to click the little red thanks button in the lower right hand corner of every post.

          THAT'S the point.

          And MY one-liner you reference, well...you missed the point again.

          That was "sarcasm" and was in response to ANOTHER one-line drive-by post. See, I never said a one-line post was necessarily a BAD thing. And that post was intended to draw the attention of others to the inanity of posts LIKE it.

          And yeah, I could use a hug...but not from you:

          See, I don't even know if you're a dude or a lady! Why not post up your name and some info about yourself if you're gonna be here a while so we know who's attacking us? Hmmm?

          Put it on your to-do list before your 5th post. :p

          Yeesh...Screw the hug, Now I need a drink.
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