Starting from Square One with Article Marketing

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Alright so I've read just about every thread I can find on this subject, about from writing for syndication, resource boxes, original vs syndicated content, list building and so on. It's a bit overwhelming, however, so I was wondering if someone would be willing to give me a short list of steps to get the ball rolling.

A little bit of background, I've been doing IM for almost 3 months now. I started off by building a few websites, targeting keywords and building links for SE traffic, made plenty of mistakes, and now have one site that ranks 2nd-5th for a couple keywords and gets around 50 UV a day.

I've just started writing big, detailed articles for my site (about 1000 words) and then submitting them to EZA for syndication. I'm also doing blog commenting and forum posting, which seems to be good for my website authority but doesn't seem to boost my traffic much by itself.


So my question is: what's the process I have to go through to get from square 1 to making a few hundred a month with this? What steps do I have to take (and in what order) to get the ball rolling?

Thanks!!
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  • Profile picture of the author ezlegion
    Hi Matt281,
    Really it's all a matter of scaling it up.
    To get more traffic from ezine (& others) you need to publish more articles, if you can publish 20+ in the same niche over a couple of days you will get a lump of traffic because you're dominating a niche for that time.

    Other than that there's social but not just facebook, think outside the box a little, there are many forums you can get traffic from that will be specific to your niche (even here depending what your niche is)

    Then there's good old offsite seo to get your site higher in google.

    Overall be prepared for some work, do enough and it will pay off and click here for more help.

    Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Darren Hodgson
    It's very overwhelming when you first start out. You need a plan from the very beginning. Pick two or three traffic sources and get really good at them first before you try anything else.

    Don't be a slave to SOS, shiny object syndrome, if you purchase a guide only do it if you're looking for it and you can apply it here and now.

    There is no real time scale, the more you work the more you earn. If I had one basic formula it would be

    Traffic + conversions = money in the bank

    Concentrate first on getting a steady flow of traffic, then tweak your offers to get the most you can from them. Finaly scale it up
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Matt281 View Post

    I've just started writing big, detailed articles for my site (about 1000 words) and then submitting them to EZA for syndication. I'm also doing blog commenting and forum posting, which seems to be good for my website authority but doesn't seem to boost my traffic much by itself.
    Not quickly, no.

    Submitting them to EZA for syndication isn't the same as them being syndicated. As you've discovered (because getting them syndicated does typically bring floods of traffic).

    You shouldn't depend entirely on passive syndication from EZA, though (because it can be too slow/unreliable/variable). What other things are you doing - actively - to get them syndicated? There are many suggestions in this current thread.

    Originally Posted by Matt281 View Post

    So my question is: what's the process I have to go through to get from square 1 to making a few hundred a month with this? What steps do I have to take (and in what order) to get the ball rolling?
    You're way beyond square 1. You're way beyond where many "article marketers" ever get to at all.

    You need to "achieve syndication" to niche sites, ezines, whatever/however (see the thread mentioned above).

    Also: is your website ready for the traffic you want? Do you have a prominently incentivised opt-in so that you can start building your list immediately?

    (Do you have the incentive for the opt-in ready? The "free report" or whatever you're calling it? And the first one or two autoresponder emails written? Just asking by way of reminding you that sudden syndication of an article can bring thousands of sudden visitors and it would be close to a tragedy to have done what was necessary to achieve that and not to be ready to build your list. "Just saying"!).
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    • Profile picture of the author Matt281
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Not quickly, no.

      Submitting them to EZA for syndication isn't the same as them being syndicated. As you've discovered (because getting them syndicated does typically bring floods of traffic).

      You shouldn't depend entirely on passive syndication from EZA, though (because it can be too slow/unreliable/variable). What other things are you doing - actively - to get them syndicated? There are many suggestions in this current thread.
      I've read through most of that thread but I'll look at it more carefully. One of the reasons I made this post is because the process seems to have several essential aspects, and I'm not really sure where to start.

      At the moment I'm not doing anything else to get my articles syndicated. I'm trying to make the switch from what I have been doing, which is submitting small unique articles to low-authority, context relevant sites through TKA's postrunner application.

      You're way beyond square 1. You're way beyond where many "article marketers" ever get to at all.
      Thanks, that's encouraging

      You need to "achieve syndication" to niche sites, ezines, whatever/however (see the thread mentioned above).
      A couple of the lower quality articles I put up on EZA have been syndicated a few times, but they seem to be getting picked up by relatively low-quality sites that are just taking massive amounts of content off of EZA every day.

      Is there any way to influence this other than submitting better articles like I've been doing?


      Also: is your website ready for the traffic you want? Do you have a prominently incentivised opt-in so that you can start building your list immediately?

      (Do you have the incentive for the opt-in ready? The "free report" or whatever you're calling it? And the first one or two autoresponder emails written? Just asking by way of reminding you that sudden syndication of an article can bring thousands of sudden visitors and it would be close to a tragedy to have done what was necessary to achieve that and not to be ready to build your list. "Just saying"!).
      Honestly I have no idea how to do this. My site is still very basic, as is my knowledge in this field.

      I'm sure I can find out how to do this relatively easily, but at this point I don't even know if I could handle having a big list of people. I don't even have a product or anything.

      To be honest my idea was just to get to about 100 UV a day, put up adsense so that I can convince myself that I can really make money online, and get a little bit back from my efforts, then start to learn how to steer things in the direction I wanted to go...

      ...That's actually why I made this topic, just to try to get a hold on the first couple of steps in that direction, and I'm sure the rest will sort itself out as I keep learning.

      Thanks so much for your help.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Matt281 View Post

        bump! help please!
        Sorry, Matt - your post above was at 3.37am, my time, and wasn't on the front page when I got online today - have only just seen it, now.

        Originally Posted by Matt281 View Post

        I've read through most of that thread but I'll look at it more carefully.
        Yes; do that - it'll help you, really.

        Originally Posted by Matt281 View Post

        I'm not really sure where to start.
        You have started (and well, by the sound of it).

        Originally Posted by Matt281 View Post

        At the moment I'm not doing anything else to get my articles syndicated.
        Ok; well, you need to do this (suggestions in the thread mentioned above). You need to contact ezine publishers and webmasters in your niche, offering them your articles to be published with the backlink which you include at the end (like a "resource-box" but actually the last paragraph of the article). And chat them up about their site/ezine and mention that you'll have future content to which they're welcome before it's submitted to any directories etc. etc.

        Sorry, I don't know what TKA's postrunner application is, and can't comment on that.

        Originally Posted by Matt281 View Post

        A couple of the lower quality articles I put up on EZA have been syndicated a few times, but they seem to be getting picked up by relatively low-quality sites that are just taking massive amounts of content off of EZA every day.
        Are these autoblogs? They sound like it. Anyway, they're not doing you any harm. If you like the look of any of them, you can still contact their owners. They'll be low value to you, if they're autoblogs, though.

        Originally Posted by Matt281 View Post

        at this point I don't even know if I could handle having a big list of people. I don't even have a product or anything.
        Ok ... I'd guessed (wrongly) that you're selling an affiliate product, or something of the kind. (Which you might perhaps want to, in future?). Article syndication is a lot of work for an AdSense site.

        Having a big list of people is no different from having a small list of people, in principle. You offer them an incentive ("free report"?) to opt in, and your autoresponder ("Aweber"/"GetResponse"?) automates the entire procedure. You build relationships (by automated email - you write them in sequence but never have to send them out yourself) and provide valuable information, and establish credibility and trust. And on the basis of the trust, some of them follow your recommendations and buy the products you're promoting (e.g. as an affiliate?).

        Originally Posted by Matt281 View Post

        To be honest my idea was just to get to about 100 UV a day, put up adsense so that I can convince myself that I can really make money online, and get a little bit back from my efforts, then start to learn how to steer things in the direction I wanted to go...
        Yes; fair enough. Are there products that you can sell, though, after you've done that, and do you know which ones you want to sell, if you want to sell any? If you don't know yet, you might want to put "thinking about this and researching it" fairly high on your "to do" list?

        If it might help, you're welcome to send me your url by p.m., for comments (if you don't want to put it on the board, as many understandably don't). If not, obviously no offense taken, and I understand.

        I hear you about 100UV per day, but article syndication tends to produce "unsteady traffic", especially when you're "building" ... 3,000UV per month is a much more meaningful measurement. An article successfully syndicated to a good traffic-source can suddenly produce hundreds/thousands of UV's all pretty close together. It's a big work-up for an AdSense site. But I can understand your wanting to "check that you can make it work" before going too much further. If/when it does work, you're presumably going to want and need (a) monetisation other than AdSense, and (b) a list, though?

        "Turn Words Into Traffic" (that's not an affiliate link, of course) is a very good read, and explains the entire "business model" we're talking about, if you want more to read.
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        • Profile picture of the author Matt281
          Originally Posted by JessieFitzgerald View Post

          Post at least two, ideally five articles per week.

          I must say, you are incredibly clear-sighted and focused. I bet you will see steadily increasing revenue with consistent action like you have already committed to making.

          Why don't you keep this thread updated so that we can all see how you are doing and cheer you on?
          Thanks, I may just do that

          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post



          Ok; well, you need to do this (suggestions in the thread mentioned above). You need to contact ezine publishers and webmasters in your niche, offering them your articles to be published with the backlink which you include at the end (like a "resource-box" but actually the last paragraph of the article). And chat them up about their site/ezine and mention that you'll have future content to which they're welcome before it's submitted to any directories etc. etc.

          Sorry, I don't know what TKA's postrunner application is, and can't comment on that.
          Alright, do I do that by contacting the webmasters/publishers who syndicate my content? or do I use need that "list of ezines" product that paul mentions in his posts?

          Postrunner is an application created by The Keyword Academy which basically lets you submit small original articles people in their system in exchange for backlinks. They're mostly relatively low-quality sites, but they're context relevant.

          By the sounds of things right now, I may just wait until I can monetize before I jump ship and get into this. I don't want to be one of those people who jumps around and never finishes any one thing.



          Are these autoblogs? They sound like it. Anyway, they're not doing you any harm. If you like the look of any of them, you can still contact their owners. They'll be low value to you, if they're autoblogs, though.
          They might be, I'm not sure if someone actually grabs all that content or if I bot does it.

          Ok ... I'd guessed (wrongly) that you're selling an affiliate product, or something of the kind. (Which you might perhaps want to, in future?). Article syndication is a lot of work for an AdSense site.
          Haha no worries. I was planning on eventually selling an Ebook or perhaps an affiliate product, but I haven't learned anything about affiliate marketing yet. All my efforts so far have been to learn how to build a website, create content and drive traffic.

          Having a big list of people is no different from having a small list of people, in principle. You offer them an incentive ("free report"?) to opt in, and your autoresponder ("Aweber"/"GetResponse"?) automates the entire procedure. You build relationships (by automated email - you write them in sequence but never have to send them out yourself) and provide valuable information, and establish credibility and trust. And on the basis of the trust, some of them follow your recommendations and buy the products you're promoting (e.g. as an affiliate?).
          I understand the principles behind this, and I will do this for sure, I just might need a little more time before I feel like I can manage this kind of thing (and an product).

          Yes; fair enough. Are there products that you can sell, though, after you've done that, and do you know which ones you want to sell, if you want to sell any? If you don't know yet, you might want to put "thinking about this and researching it" fairly high on your "to do" list?
          An ebook was all I had in mind, but my niche has the potential to easily sell amazon products and probably various other things I haven't thought of.

          If it might help, you're welcome to send me your url by p.m., for comments (if you don't want to put it on the board, as many understandably don't). If not, obviously no offense taken, and I understand.
          Thanks, I was actually going to ask you if you'd be willing to take the time

          I'll do that right after I finish this post.

          *edit*

          It turns out I can't send PMs with less than 50 posts on here. Would it be possible for you to PM me with a different means of contacting you? (otherwise I may be prompted to spam this forum for the next hour)

          I hear you about 100UV per day, but article syndication tends to produce "unsteady traffic", especially when you're "building" ... 3,000UV per month is a much more meaningful measurement. An article successfully syndicated to a good traffic-source can suddenly produce hundreds/thousands of UV's all pretty close together. It's a big work-up for an AdSense site. But I can understand your wanting to "check that you can make it work" before going too much further. If/when it does work, you're presumably going to want and need (a) monetisation other than AdSense, and (b) a list, though?
          Yes, definitely. I tend to move slowly, but I'm very persistent. I do think article marketing is best suited for what I enjoy doing (writing quality content), and I'll do whatever I need to for monetization. But like I said, I don't want to completely jump ship before I prove to myself I can do this.

          "Turn Words Into Traffic" (that's not an affiliate link, of course) is a very good read, and explains the entire "business model" we're talking about, if you want more to read.
          Thanks - you've been so helpful I'd gladly get it whether it was your affiliate link or not
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by AlphaWarrior View Post

            if all of your articles are on EZA, then a reader just has to search EZA, read your articles on EZA, and never go to your site.
            When a potential customer finds one of your articles by putting one of its keywords into a search engine, the last thing you want him to find is the EZA copy, for the obvious reason that (like all of us) you'll lose most of the traffic that follows that route. Nobody's CTR is 100%. That's why you publish all the articles initially on your site (as well as all its other SEO), have them indexed there, and only then submit them to EZA, so that you're the long-term, cumulative beneficiary of the initial indexation-rights, and customer-traffic comes to your site rather than to an article directory.

            Articles are not in EZA for customers to find them. That's simply not what an article directory is. It's a depository of content available for syndication. That's why EZA was set up and why it exists (and why it's called "EZA" - they're article for ezines - and now for websites, too).

            I'm sorry, AlphaWarrior, but this most fundamental misunderstanding of the situation is so fully covered, explained and discussed at so much length and in such detail, by so many professional article marketers, in so many of the threads linked to just above, that there's really very little to be gained by my trying to set out the "recorded highlights".

            "Readers" don't search EZA - they search Google (and other search engines).

            Webmasters and ezine publishers search EZA, because that's what it's there for.

            Originally Posted by Matt281 View Post

            do I do that by contacting the webmasters/publishers who syndicate my content? or do I use need that "list of ezines" product that paul mentions in his posts?
            Yes, that would be great ... and you'll find other suggestions in threads above, in "Turn Words Into Traffic" and so on. Don't rely only on passive syndication. Yes, it's important to follow up when that happens, as explained here.

            Originally Posted by Matt281 View Post

            Postrunner is an application created by The Keyword Academy which basically lets you submit small original articles people in their system in exchange for backlinks. They're mostly relatively low-quality sites, but they're context relevant.
            Ah, I see - thanks.

            Originally Posted by Matt281 View Post

            I may just wait until I can monetize before I jump ship and get into this.
            I would, I must say. You need to be ready, and it's a lot of work to do without monetisation other than AdSense.

            Originally Posted by Matt281 View Post

            An ebook was all I had in mind
            That's about 90% of what I sell on all of mine.

            And good luck!
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        • Profile picture of the author JJones
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post



          Article syndication is a lot of work for an AdSense site.

          I was thinking of setting up a site primarily for Adsense, and then maybe add cpa/affiliate products.

          If I'm barking up the wrong tree, I'd appreciate your advice on this.

          I've read every single thread/post regarding Article Syndication, and you've really changed my way of thinking (for the better).

          I've recently ordered the paperback version of "Turn words into Traffic", so I'm looking forward to learning more about this business model.

          I would like to thank you and your Warrior friends, for taking the time to explain how things really work.

          Top Warriors!
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by JJones View Post

            I was thinking of setting up a site primarily for Adsense, and then maybe add cpa/affiliate products.

            If I'm barking up the wrong tree, I'd appreciate your advice on this.
            Apologies, JJ - but I'm the wrong person to ask: I have no direct experience of AdSense at all.

            My own sites are for affiliate marketing. About 90% of what I currently promote comprises ClickBank products, and the remaining 10% a mixture of other things. For myself, I have to say, AdSense isn't something I'm at all anxious to test ... because I wouldn't want to be giving visitors additional ways (which earn me only pennies) to leave my sites rather than staying there.

            Good luck with "Turn Words Into Traffic": it's remarkable, in a way, what a very high proportion of it (given its age) is still completely relevant and significant to today's market. While the latecomer "article directory marketing" has arrived and already left the field early ("retired, hurt"), the fundamental truths and realities of content sharing and promotion continue unchanged.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Ashwood
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Do you have the incentive for the opt-in ready? The "free report" or whatever you're calling it? And the first one or two autoresponder emails written? Just asking by way of reminding you that sudden syndication of an article can bring thousands of sudden visitors and it would be close to a tragedy to have done what was necessary to achieve that and not to be ready to build your list. "Just saying"!).
      Thanks for this Alexa (no I'm not stalking you, honest).

      I've picked up a lot of clarification in your posts as well as others here, and of course I've thanked them.

      But moving on from getting the traffic, you make a very salient point here, and it's one I was caught out on myself a while back.

      It's vital that you don't let all these article marketing techniques go to waste, by not being prepared.

      I advise my students to create at least 5, (preferably more), messages to snd out to them when they sign up via an opt-in or squeeze page. This way, your campaign cat hit the ground running, and you have an immediate connction with your new prospective customers.

      Cheers
      Alan (with a slipped disc, could do with a rub down with a couple of Geisha Girls).

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      Time for a cuppa.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nags
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post


      You shouldn't depend entirely on passive syndication from EZA
      @Alexa Smith: What is passive syndication? Some examples will really help
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Nags View Post

        @Alexa Smith: What is passive syndication?
        "Passive syndication" is the republication of your work from a content-depository where it was available (such as "Ezine Articles") by someone (an ezine publisher or a webmaster) without you having done any more, yourself, than place it there to announce to anyone happening to look there that it's available for subsequent publication (this being, of course, the purpose of an "article directory").

        In other words "people happening to find and republish it without your having contacted them - typically without your even having heard of them or knowing who they are".

        Some of the people on my syndication-list are people I originally "discovered" in that way, but although it can be dramatically successful, if you "write for syndication", it's clearly a mistake to depend on that alone as a syndication method, because it can also be slow, unreliable, variable and so on.

        Originally Posted by Nags View Post

        Some examples will really help
        I think this post might interest you?

        The passive syndication is the "afterthought bit" described in the paragraph about three-quarters of the way through, starting with the words "Later, I dump that article in EZA. Nobody ever finds that copy through a search engine."
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt281
    bump! help please!
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  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    There are a lot of ways to make money with A.M. One way is to write articles that use the right keywords and then lead them to a site where you give something away and get them to opt in. There are sooo many other ways to do it. If you want to know the best way (IMO) to get the right keywords, look here:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/war-room...ss-spying.html
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  • Profile picture of the author JessieFitzgerald
    Post at least two, ideally five articles per week.

    I must say, you are incredibly clear-sighted and focused. I bet you will see steadily increasing revenue with consistent action like you have already committed to making.

    Why don't you keep this thread updated so that we can all see how you are doing and cheer you on?
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  • Profile picture of the author GaryG4
    Just a quick heads up about posting articles from your blog to the ezinearticles. You should always use 100% content when posting to the article directories. Its best to post a different article on your blog and then create a new one on the same topic (relevant keywords) and then post to ezine. I post a blog article then create a new one. Pay someone to spin it to 100% and blast it out with AMR (ariticle Marketing Robot) to about 1000 different sites. Use the drip-feed feature so it looks natural. For ezine articles I hand post it there. Good luck!

    Oh yeah. Point the new articles that your posting at the directories to your blog in the resource box. Or for even better linking juice follow this step:

    1. Make a blog post on you site
    2. Create new article for ezine articles and point the links to your blog post
    3. Create another new article spin to 100% and blast to all the directories pointing links to the ezine article post.
    4. when you get the url of the tier 2 articles bookmark and rss them.

    This will create a ton of link juice back to your main blog post.

    Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by GaryG4 View Post

      You should always use 100% content when posting to the article directories. Its best to post a different article on your blog and then create a new one on the same topic (relevant keywords) and then post to ezine.
      Gary, there are hundreds of article marketing threads in this forum in which successions of experienced, professional, successful article marketers explain at length in detail why you should submit to EZA (and other directories) ONLY articles which have previously been published and indexed on your own site first.

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html

      This is absolutely fundamental to the article marketing method being discussed here.

      Originally Posted by GaryG4 View Post

      I post a blog article then create a new one.
      Then you're only using half your work, effectively. If you're going to "create a new one" then you can publish them both on your own site and have them indexed there, and then have them both syndicated, including via article directories.

      Originally Posted by GaryG4 View Post

      Pay someone to spin it to 100% and blast it out with AMR (ariticle Marketing Robot) to about 1000 different sites.
      This thread explains a lot of stuff about "spinning" and why most successful, professional article marketers think it's a complete waste of time, and based on fallacies and mistaken beliefs about "duplicate content".

      All the threads here with titles like "Article Marketing Doesn't Work Any More" and "Article Marketing Is Dead" have been started off by people doing exactly what you suggest above, Gary. And guess what? They're right: for them, it doesn't work. (But what they're really discussing is what you're advising above, and that isn't article marketing: it's just one small subset of article marketing, better known as "article directory marketing", which revolves around using article directories for their own traffic and/or their own backlinks.)

      What we're talking about here is "getting high-quality articles in front of highly targeted traffic". It's an entirely different (and for many people greatly more successful) business model.

      Originally Posted by GaryG4 View Post

      This will create a ton of link juice back to your main blog post.
      Article marketing is about a whole lot more than SEO, Gary.

      For anyone interested, here are a few more threads explaining some of the basics ...

      This one explains the role of article directories a little. As does this one, together with some comments about writing for syndication. This one is about "unique content" and a bit about link-juice. This one is about writing for syndication.

      And in this excellent little article an expert writer/marketer explains "duplicate content" to perfection.
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    • Profile picture of the author camilopez
      Originally Posted by GaryG4 View Post

      Just a quick heads up about posting articles from your blog to the ezinearticles. You should always use 100% content when posting to the article directories. Its best to post a different article on your blog and then create a new one on the same topic (relevant keywords) and then post to ezine. I post a blog article then create a new one. Pay someone to spin it to 100% and blast it out with AMR (ariticle Marketing Robot) to about 1000 different sites. Use the drip-feed feature so it looks natural. For ezine articles I hand post it there. Good luck!

      Oh yeah. Point the new articles that your posting at the directories to your blog in the resource box. Or for even better linking juice follow this step:

      1. Make a blog post on you site
      2. Create new article for ezine articles and point the links to your blog post
      3. Create another new article spin to 100% and blast to all the directories pointing links to the ezine article post.
      4. when you get the url of the tier 2 articles bookmark and rss them.

      This will create a ton of link juice back to your main blog post.

      Good luck!
      Just a quick addition...here is a link to the ezinearticles guidelines.
      Editorial Guidelines For Submitting Quality Articles To EzineArticles.com
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    • Profile picture of the author howinfo
      Originally Posted by GaryG4 View Post

      Just a quick heads up about posting articles from your blog to the ezinearticles. You should always use 100% content when posting to the article directories. Its best to post a different article on your blog and then create a new one on the same topic.
      Yes, I have noticed that I am getting lot better results when submitting original articles to article directories. When I started submitting 100% original articles I noticed that I was getting better positions in search rankings for the articles and also syndication rate vent up as well. For little extra work it is well worth it I think. But I don’t spinn the articles, I either get new one or get the original article professionally rewritten targeting slightly different keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author AlphaWarrior
    If you put every article that is on your website on EZA and/or syndicate the articles, how is that different than having a site that has nothing but EZA or syndicated articles? I know that you would have backlinks. But if all of your articles are on EZA, then a reader just has to search EZA, read your articles on EZA, and never go to your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author H.Miller
    Just keep doing what you are doing. Article marketing is a numbers game. The more quality content you have out there the more traffic you can get. Notice I said quality content. Quality is the key. Focus on writing for people and not the search engines. Provide a ton of great content on your site and people will like it, link to it and share it in various other ways.

    Article marketing is not a quick way to get traffic as some would have you to believe. It takes time but if you stick with it you will start getting a constant flood of traffic to your site each and everyday. Once they are there its up to you to convert them into customers.

    Also stay away from spinning articles. Most of the time the articles come out reading like pure gibberish which means they won't get you the results you desire.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt281
    Hey Alexa, I sent you two emails, one last week and one just now. Just letting you know in case they went to spam.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by IMRS View Post

      And for Ezine see that the post word could is not more then 500 words else they will reject.
      This is pure fiction! :rolleyes:

      In fact EZA strongly prefer longer articles. They always have done. They say so openly on their blog and explain why in some detail.

      Where do people get this nonsensical stuff from? What you say isn't true of EZA and it isn't true of other article directories, either. And on some subjects, in fact, EZA now has a 600-word minimum, so this is completely misguided advice that you're offering, and will lead to rejections ...

      If you want to learn something about article length, IMRS, instead of spreading misinformation, this thread may help you.

      Originally Posted by Matt281 View Post

      Hey Alexa, I sent you two emails, one last week and one just now. Just letting you know in case they went to spam.
      Sorry, they did (my fault - gave you my personal email and my security settings are very high, apologies); I have them now and will reply today.
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  • Profile picture of the author JaySaldivar
    Talking about article marketing, you need to love content writing or have some outsource team that would help you. In the past article marketing was most effective by the natural organic rankings you could accomplish on Google. Now, it's getting harder to just create an article and rank it. If you really want to rank a web page, rank it from your own blog. Unless you are willing to make tons and tons of content, you may try it. It's time consuming, however the upside is that they traffic is really high quality. What I see now is that you need tons and tons of content to see something worth while going with article marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author warrich
    By article marketing would you be doing writeups? Or submission only? Or both? Before you start remember the article submission is not the only objective, submitting a unique article in bulk amounts is the real goal.
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  • Profile picture of the author Viramara
    guest blogging has helped me much. find popular blogs where you can submit a guest posting. EZA is good but it's kinda like ground zero, while popular blogs already have established readerships.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt281
    Still on my quest to get to 100 UV a day and put up adsense. I've been busy with some career-related stuff and haven't made time to build backlinks like I normally do, but I've been doing a lot of blog commenting, which seems to be helping. I got 84 UV yesterday, and I've been consistently getting around 70.

    Alexa - if you get a chance...
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  • Profile picture of the author blalock61
    In addition to what Alexa has posted above (am I not sure if she posted info or links about these two products below because I did not read all the thread) here are a couple of good resources that explains the syndication model in good detail. (non affiliate links) I have both of the products.

    This from Jim Edwards:

    Turn Words Into Traffic

    And this new one by Paul Myers:

    The Content Cash System


    After spending to much time spinning my wheels just posting articles to directories (which I have made some money at, built some niche lists, built some niche sites up a little and sold them, etc), I am now out actively trying to take the content to the blog owners, ezine owners, and other outlets. I am trying to take advantage of leverage and create a foundation for long term profitability and sustainability. We will see what happens.

    If syndication is what you want to learn, here is what I do. Over 90% of the time when I come to this forum, all I do is go the search area and search for the following usernames: myob, Alexa Smith, tpw, and a couple of more. Usually when you find one of their posts in a thread, you will find the rest of them. I read those threads/posts, etc and that is it.

    I do not go to the other sections of the forums. I read their posts and leave. Do not let the mass of information on this forum become a 1000 pound anchor around your neck in the middle of the ocean. You are not going to win that battle.

    Hope this is some help.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      What we're sayin' here about article marketing is really nothing new. I learned this from a very successful innovator and syndicated writer:

      "Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing."

      - Benjamin Franklin


      What's "new" is spinning and splattering garbage around, and calling it "article marketing".
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      • Profile picture of the author Matt281
        Originally Posted by blalock61 View Post

        In addition to what Alexa has posted above (am I not sure if she posted info or links about these two products below because I did not read all the thread) here are a couple of good resources that explains the syndication model in good detail. (non affiliate links) I have both of the products.

        This from Jim Edwards:

        Turn Words Into Traffic

        And this new one by Paul Myers:

        The Content Cash System


        After spending to much time spinning my wheels just posting articles to directories (which I have made some money at, built some niche lists, built some niche sites up a little and sold them, etc), I am now out actively trying to take the content to the blog owners, ezine owners, and other outlets. I am trying to take advantage of leverage and create a foundation for long term profitability and sustainability. We will see what happens.

        If syndication is what you want to learn, here is what I do. Over 90% of the time when I come to this forum, all I do is go the search area and search for the following usernames: myob, Alexa Smith, tpw, and a couple of more. Usually when you find one of their posts in a thread, you will find the rest of them. I read those threads/posts, etc and that is it.

        I do not go to the other sections of the forums. I read their posts and leave. Do not let the mass of information on this forum become a 1000 pound anchor around your neck in the middle of the ocean. You are not going to win that battle.

        Hope this is some help.
        Yeah that's actually exactly what I do! I've found tons of useful anecdotes, but it's still hard to bring the whole thing together.

        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        What we're sayin' here about article marketing is really nothing new. I learned this from a very successful innovator and syndicated writer:

        "Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing."

        - Benjamin Franklin


        What's "new" is spinning and splattering garbage around, and calling it "article marketing".
        Yeah thanks, this is what I've been trying to do. However, it's the "getting something that's worth reading in front of enough readers" that has been difficult.
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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          Originally Posted by Matt281 View Post

          it's the "getting something that's worth reading in front of enough readers" that has been difficult.
          ^^^ That is exactly what you must do. I never said it was easy; just simple.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt281
    Just hit 100 UV for the first time yesterday (104 actually!!). Gonna wait till it stabilizes around there and then throw up adsense. Then I'll plan on creating a product and work on list building, plus figuring out how to get my articles syndicated...or I'll just see dollar signs and keep doing what I'm doing =P
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