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I've lurked on this forum for years, and read a lot of posts(information overload), i'm almost ready to get my feet wet with this SEO thing, here's an overview of what i've learned from you guys, if i'm wrong please correct, also any insight/opinions are very much welcomed.

Get a .com/.org/.net over a .info, easier to flip and looks better and worth the extra $6

don't try and be original, get in a niche of a top category(i'm going for health or wealth, something in there)

get quality backlinks, piggybacking on popular sites like posting on popular blogs is a good way. As far as submitting articles, don't use spinners, make articles you submit be unique content to what's on your site(save the good stuff for your site since most people are gonna steal your article content anyway). And more content the better, article should be 200-500 words.

Get a domain with keywords you're after, and don't over due keywords(key word stuffing) in your blog posts

use wordpress since its free and easy to setup

affiliate marketing products are typically more profitable than adsense or PPC.

If you can make a facebook fanpage and kiss up to people on twitter to build relations, definitely do that(these maybe tricky for me)

The warrior special offer section is $40 and while isn't as highly incentive as in the past, due to a lot of people using it, it's still profitable.

mailing lists are golden because you can contact users in the future

clickbank sucks unless you're making lots of sales(and they may even take your monies and/or not give you credit for certain sales)

research keywords for competitors and try and get their backlinks( the latter sounds kinda complicated), if they have too much of a foothold, stand down and find another niche

If you can afford it, outsource content writing and anything that makes sense

Don't expect to make a lot of money overnight, takes lot of hard work and time.


Ok guys is this the gist of it? Oh btw one thing I personally learned is DO NOT search for a domain that you're not ready to buy that second. I can't tell you how many times I searched, came back and it was registered, why? because domain registrars are scum and register it to force you to pay more $$$
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  • Profile picture of the author shuvo
    Well I am not an expert on these issues but so far I know is similar to your thinking like you have described here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Miguelito203
    Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

    I've lurked on this forum for years, and read a lot of posts(information overload), i'm almost ready to get my feet wet with this SEO thing, here's an overview of what i've learned from you guys, if i'm wrong please correct, also any insight/opinions are very much welcomed.

    Get a .com/.org/.net over a .info, easier to flip and looks better and worth the extra $6

    don't try and be original, get in a niche of a top category(i'm going for health or wealth, something in there)

    get quality backlinks, piggybacking on popular sites like posting on popular blogs is a good way. As far as submitting articles, don't use spinners, make articles you submit be unique content to what's on your site(save the good stuff for your site since most people are gonna steal your article content anyway). And more content the better, article should be 200-500 words.

    Get a domain with keywords you're after, and don't over due keywords(key word stuffing) in your blog posts

    use wordpress since its free and easy to setup

    affiliate marketing products are typically more profitable than adsense or PPC.

    If you can make a facebook fanpage and kiss up to people on twitter to build relations, definitely do that(these maybe tricky for me)

    The warrior special offer section is $40 and while isn't as highly incentive as in the past, due to a lot of people using it, it's still profitable.

    mailing lists are golden because you can contact users in the future

    clickbank sucks unless you're making lots of sales(and they may even take your monies and/or not give you credit for certain sales)

    research keywords for competitors and try and get their backlinks( the latter sounds kinda complicated), if they have too much of a foothold, stand down and find another niche

    If you can afford it, outsource content writing and anything that makes sense

    Don't expect to make a lot of money overnight, takes lot of hard work and time.


    Ok guys is this the gist of it? Oh btw one thing I personally learned is DO NOT search for a domain that you're not ready to buy that second. I can't tell you how many times I searched, came back and it was registered, why? because domain registrars are scum and register it to force you to pay more $$$
    Hi. I am going to give you my take on what you have said and attempt to address everything. First, you say that you have been here for years but call yourself a newbie. Making money online, like computers, is hands on, you can do all the learning in the world, but the real learning starts when you actually take action and implement stuff. Taking action is key. There is, like you stated, a learning curve.

    One of the most important aspects of making money online is doing research. In terms of a domain name, purchasing a top-level domain (.com, .org, .net) just looks more professional. It's also important to have your own domain so that you can control the content. Free sites are very picky about the topics and stuff they allow. If they get rid of your content, your back at square one and your money with dry up really quickly.

    When it comes to Wordpress, it has become the standard for blogging/niche sites. However, the free version doesn't allow affiliate links, which is why it's important to have your own domain. In terms of article writing, your articles should be between 400 - 450 words. You need to know your niche well enough to answer all the potential questions and customer may have while keeping it short and simple. When your articles are too long, your conversions suffer.

    When it comes to affiliate marketing, it can be quite profitable, and I would choose it over adsense or paid advertising. First, it takes just as many visitors to get an adsense click as it does an affiliate sell. Why make .30 a click when you can make $30? This is why you shouldn't use adsense and affiliate marketing on the same page. Adsense directs people away from your site. In terms of PPC, I just don't like spending money. :-) You also stand to lose a lot if you don't know what you're doing.

    Affiliate marketing with a niche blog is great because not only is the income residual (once you get everything up and running)--work once and continue to get paid without any extra work, but you can also generate various income streams from the same blog (i.e. e-mail marketing...). It's also great because you can work around your own schedule, which I really like. With the holidays around the corner, now is the perfect time to start up a niche blog -- still time to learn what you need to know and cash in big. All you need is the right training.

    For this, I recommend Unstoppable Affiliate by Andrew Hansen and Josh Stanton. It's an internet marketing training program specifically designed to teach the newbie marketer all the ins and outs of niche blogging so you can be up and running and making money as quickly as possible. More importantly, it uses a realistic, straightforward approach--without all the usual lies and stuff. In addition to the basic course, they also offer a coaching program that you can participate in.

    Good luck,
    Joey
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  • Profile picture of the author AngryBird141
    Great posts guys! Very informative for newbies in the business.
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  • Profile picture of the author owenlee
    one advice is that to take action and do things step by step...if you miss one step then you may find yourself going in circle...do it once...do it good!
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  • Profile picture of the author zbrshakeel
    Stick to this forum posts and you will learn a lot about internet marketing
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  • Profile picture of the author jerrypohn
    As far as I am concerned you have got a good grip on the basics. Just dont fall into the trap of becoming a professional student. Dont be afraid to just do it. Get out there and start getting your feet wet. Become a "do'er" and not just a learner. Always remember "An ant on the move achieves more than a sleeping ox"
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  • Profile picture of the author WishfulDoing
    You are right about that. I have been reading these forums for months and have learned so much. Knowing that there is still so much more to learn has kept me from actually starting but now I have decided to turn my wishful thinking into wishful doing (my user name).

    By the way, Miguelito, I bought Unstoppable Affiliate and thought it was very good but as a novice, I could not implement their niche ideas. I couldn't get approval to a CPA account (no business tax ID or website). I think other newbs would be disappointed by that as well. I do think UA is a very good program, however.

    Helpful tips, thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

    Get a .com/.org/.net over a .info, easier to flip and looks better and worth the extra $6
    If resale of the site is your main concern (and in one or two other cases, too), this is certainly right. For myself, that isn't a concern and it actually pays me to use .info domains for the reasons explained here.

    Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

    get in a niche of a top category(i'm going for health or wealth, something in there)
    When I was starting off, those were far too competitive for me. Even three years later, I still don't touch the "wealth" niche at all and wouldn't want to, at the moment, actually for a huge variety of reasons. I do have some "health" ones now, but am glad I didn't start them off until I had plenty of real experience and some success.

    Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

    get quality backlinks, piggybacking on popular sites like posting on popular blogs is a good way.
    Agreed - and the extent to which they're good links for you depends primarily on their relevance to your niche rather than on their page ranks.

    Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

    As far as submitting articles, don't use spinners
    Agreed. Very, very few people with any successful article marketing experience are going to argue with that one.

    Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

    make articles you submit be unique content to what's on your site(save the good stuff for your site since most people are gonna steal your article content anyway).
    I strongly disagree with all of that, for all the reasons explained in hundreds of "article marketing threads" here. It can't be right routinely to submit "unique content" to an article directory. That's a real "no gain" ploy compared with its alternatives.

    Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

    article should be 200-500 words.
    Again, I strongly disagree, as do virtually all really successful article marketers earning genuine residual income from their articles, as explained here.

    Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

    Get a domain with keywords you're after, and don't over due keywords(key word stuffing) in your blog posts
    Agreed.

    Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

    use wordpress since its free and easy to setup
    Personally, I don't use it. But most people do, it seems. And I see many of its advantages.

    Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

    affiliate marketing products are typically more profitable than adsense or PPC.
    I think this is probably right, myself, though many seem not to agree with it.

    Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

    If you can make a facebook fanpage and kiss up to people on twitter to build relations, definitely do that(these maybe tricky for me)
    For myself, I think this would probably be a very poor use of my time. I don't want to have to persuade people met "socially" to buy what I'm promoting: I prefer to attract people already looking for it.

    Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

    mailing lists are golden because you can contact users in the future
    Agreed.

    Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

    clickbank sucks unless you're making lots of sales(and they may even take your monies and/or not give you credit for certain sales)
    This is a great over-simplification. It's true their affiliate cookie-tracking isn't 100% reliable, though. They won't "take your money" unless you don't make a single sale for 90 days (and that's only under their "dormant account rules", which can easily be circumvented anyway).

    I agree with the rest, or near enough.

    The only points where I think you've gone seriously astray with your planning are the ones related to the submission of articles to directories. Just let me know if you'd like a little list of recent threads here which might change your mind about those points.

    And good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author silentsal
    Sounds like you understand the basics pretty well. My advice would be to join the War Room. There's plenty of free information and WSOs there that can be very useful. Just try not to spend your life in there downloading everything. Lol!

    The most important advice for any newbie is "just do it!". Yes, you might fail, but you will have learned something along the way. Thomas Edison supposedly said:

    "I have not failed 1,000 times. I have successfully discovered 1,000 ways to NOT make a light bulb."

    Whether it's true or not, the underlying advice is sound

    All the best

    Sally
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  • Profile picture of the author wpo1408
    don't try and be original, get in a niche of a top category(i'm going for health or wealth, something in there)

    I don't agree with this, but I do agree with most of the rest, especially about avoiding CB.

    Good luck,
    Owen
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  • Profile picture of the author warrich
    Pay attention all the new comers. Someone has taken a lot of effort in putting down this article and it is really helpful as it has stuff from a load of different places. If you think that you have what it takes and want to make it big then you should start paying attention to what has been
    written.
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