Would you like to teach me affiliate marketing through article marketing?

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... From the beginning.... Sorry for the direct approach and thanks for the free guide.
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  • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
    All you need to do is search here on the term "article marketing". Read everything, and you will quickly discover a pattern emerging, and you will learn the half or dozen or so people whose advice is pure gold, and who contribute without any real experience to impart.
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  • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
    Would you like to learn what you need through a forum search?

    ... From the beginning (just search "article marketing")... Sorry for the direct approach and you're welcome for the free guide.


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    Point is, show some initiative. Learn what you can on your own. Afterwards, if you have specific questions about the topic, THEN come back and ask those specific questions.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Here are a few relevant and helpful threads, to start your collection ...

      This very good but very long thread explains in detail why it's so important to publish articles on your own site first, before submitting them anywhere else (and a lot of the indicental chat in it touches on other "basic article marketing questions").

      This one explains a lot of stuff about "spinning" and why most professional article marketers think it's a waste of time, and based on fallacies and mistaken beliefs about "duplicate content".

      This one explains why it's seriously bad news to create backlinks to article directories.

      This one explains a bit more about article directories and writing for syndication.

      This one is about "unique content" and a bit about link-juice, I think.

      This one is about writing for syndication.

      And in this excellent little article an expert writer/marketer explains "duplicate content" to perfection (and there's more on that blog which will be helpful to you, too).
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      • Profile picture of the author skibbz
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Here are a few relevant and helpful threads, to start your collection ...

        This very good but very long thread explains in detail why it's so important to publish articles on your own site first, before submitting them anywhere else (and a lot of the indicental chat in it touches on other "basic article marketing questions").

        This one explains a lot of stuff about "spinning" and why most professional article marketers think it's a waste of time, and based on fallacies and mistaken beliefs about "duplicate content".

        This one explains why it's seriously bad news to create backlinks to article directories.

        This one explains a bit more about article directories and writing for syndication.

        This one is about "unique content" and a bit about link-juice, I think.

        This one is about writing for syndication.

        And in this excellent little article an expert writer/marketer explains "duplicate content" to perfection (and there's more on that blog which will be helpful to you, too).
        also any queries you have about article marketing alexa is one of the best persons to ask in this forum
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    • Profile picture of the author bestrevenueshare
      Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

      Would you like to learn what you need through a forum search?

      ... From the beginning (just search "article marketing")... Sorry for the direct approach and you're welcome for the free guide.


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      Point is, show some initiative. Learn what you can on your own. Afterwards, if you have specific questions about the topic, THEN come back and ask those specific questions.
      Well, atleast suggest some good quality article directories, where affiliate links are allowed. As far as I know EZA does not allow affiliate links.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by bestrevenueshare View Post

        Well, atleast suggest some good quality article directories, where affiliate links are allowed.
        Article marketing isn't primarily about SEO.

        With respect, if you read all the threads listed just above, it'll help you (a lot!) to appreciate what a fundamentally inappropriate start this question is.

        There's very little point indeed in trying to use article directories for their own traffic. In fact, typically, that's directly counterproductive (as explained in great detail in several of those threads).

        Originally Posted by bestrevenueshare View Post

        As far as I know EZA does not allow affiliate links.
        Actually it does allow them, masked by a TLD, in resource-boxes. But that doesn't make it a sensible thing to do, and it isn't. That isn't the purpose and function of article directories at all, and the people who try to develop income by using them like that are the ones who have started off all the hundreds of threads you see here with titles like "Article Marketing Is Dead", because, for most of them, it doesn't work.

        Seriously, I promise I don't mean it impolitely in any way (nobody is born knowing this stuff: I wasn't, and neither were all the people above who've also offered you helpful replies!), but if your starting point is to ask for a list of article directories which allow affiliate-links, you have a lot to learn about the basics, to avoid setting off in the wrong direction - and that's information well covered in all the threads above.
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      • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
        Originally Posted by bestrevenueshare View Post

        Well, atleast suggest some good quality article directories, where affiliate links are allowed. As far as I know EZA does not allow affiliate links.
        Wrong - Ezine Articles allow you to include affiliate links in your Author Resource Box, which, in all honesty is the best place for them. Write your resource box as if it is the final paragraph of the article with the links woven in.
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  • Profile picture of the author bestrevenueshare
    Well, let me make it a non 'abs'. very precise and "narrow range" question (and 'cheap' also), first off, you are right I'm a newbie in this field, but I have read hundred of those types of articles about affiliate marketing.

    Here is the 'cheap' question.

    I want to promote affiliate products from clickbank or any other affiliate networks through article marketing or simply by writing article on article directories, I don't wanna promote my sites because I think it is really worthless, because you have to write ~200 words article just to get a relevant backlink from a PR0 webpage(obviously without syndication) can you help me in this particular field?
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by bestrevenueshare View Post

      Well, let me make it a non 'abs'. very precise and "narrow range" question (and 'cheap' also), first off, you are right I'm a newbie in this field, but I have read hundred of those types of articles about affiliate marketing.

      Here is the 'cheap' question.

      I want to promote affiliate products from clickbank or any other affiliate networks through article marketing or simply by writing article on article directories, I don't wanna promote my sites because I think it is really worthless, because you have to write ~200 words article just to get a relevant backlink from a PR0 webpage(obviously without syndication) can you help me in this particular field?
      I'm trying hard to keep this civil...

      You want to promote Clickbank products as an affiliate by dumping articles with affiliate links on article directories. Am I getting this clearly?

      If so, about the only way that will work for you is to get in your time machine and go back about five or six years. Back before thousands of other people ruined the possibility by dumping tens of thousands of junk "articles" that were badly written ~200 word ads.

      If you want to make actual money from marketing with articles, you'll have to learn how to do it in today's world.
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      • Profile picture of the author cashcow
        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        If so, about the only way that will work for you is to get in your time machine and go back about five or six years. Back before thousands of other people ruined the possibility by dumping tens of thousands of junk "articles" that were badly written ~200 word ads.
        LOL! So true.

        Just do what Alexa says, article marketing is no longer a "short cut". That boat sailed a while ago but if you follow her advice you will be building a business for the long term which might take more work up front but will have a bigger payoff in the end.

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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by bestrevenueshare View Post

      I don't wanna promote my sites because I think it is really worthless
      Like John, above, I want to keep it civil, but thinking that is why you have the problem, and are either unable or unwilling to learn how to do what you say you want to do. You're saying you want a quick-draw shoot-out against massed opponents but you don't want to put any bullets in your own gun "because you think it's worthless". I don't mean it uncivilly, but "Good luck without it!"

      It wouldn't have worked for you even three years ago (I tried something similar-but-better, myself, and - no rudeness intended, it's only an observation - I can probably write better than you and was also probably better informed going into it). It might possibly have worked - to some extent - five or six years ago: I wasn't online then and can't comment first-hand.

      You say that you want to promote affiliate products from ClickBank or similar affiliate networks. Well, however you look at it, selling ClickBank (or similar) products steadily boils down to three main things ...

      (i) You have to select the products wisely: obviously enough, without getting this part right, it doesn't much matter what else you do;

      (ii) You have to pre-sell effectively to well-targeted traffic (you can't do this, the way you want to do it);

      (iii) You have to build a list and form relationships with the people on it, so that they'll buy on the strength of your recommendation. Without doing this, your conversion-rate will typically be somewhere between "very low indeed" and "non-existent". You can't do this without your own sites (even if they're only squeeze-pages).

      These things aren't optional: you really do need to do all three of them. There's a huge turnover of affiliate marketers trying other ways and not being successful. The above overview - simplistic, superficial and obvious though it is - is representative of those who make any steady money worth talking about from it.

      I'm just being realistic, here - just in case you want to try something without stacking the deck irrecoverably against yourself.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by precious007 View Post

        I wonder when do you get the time to market your websites when you're posting from mid X,XXX to low XX,XXX words per day here.
        Thanks for the word-count, Al. Maybe I'm syndicating some of them rather than writing them de novo each time? It's good to practise what you preach, after all ...

        Originally Posted by precious007 View Post

        Just an observation
        Just a response.
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        • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
          Originally Posted by precious007 View Post



          How the hell would you close down such a profitable shop? Girl get your act together.
          I grew really bored with writing articles for others. I much prefer to do more writing for myself, then re-purpose my work. When I write an article for someone else, I get paid just once; when I write for myself, my work has the opportunity to go viral and earn me way more than $200.
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  • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
    bestrevenueshare:

    What's been said above is totally true. You're just not going to make much money - if any at all - doing things as you describe.

    You really need your own site(s), and you can't realistically rely on article directories for traffic like this.

    To rank (in search engines) with and receive any significant traffic through article directories, you'll usually have to build backlinks to your article-pages, anyway. Why do that when you can instead build them to your own sites and "directly" harness traffic that way without losing the majority of your visitors to other on-page distractions from which you don't earn a dime?

    That would be completely and utterly illogical!

    You don't have to write 200-word articles for backlinks, as you said, either. In fact, please don't do that. All you're likely to achieve is the pollution of article directories with junk that potentially makes other people's genuine articles harder to find, and you waste your time acquiring what are frankly lousy backlinks that wouldn't help you all that much; time that could be better spent on other things. There are better and more efficient ways of acquiring higher quality backlinks than writing and submitting articles to article directories.

    I'm a proponent of article syndication, but if you're adamant, for whatever reasons, that you don't wish to take part in that, then at least publish your articles on your own sites and conduct your SEO on them there. You'll be missing out on additional referral-traffic and the various other perks of syndication, but at least you'll not be investing your time and energy into building other people's sites at the expense of your own and effectively short-changing yourself at every turn. It wouldn't be the optimal approach, but still infinitely preferable to what you're proposing here.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
    I agree with alexa...

    In my opinion, articles are just a tactic - they are not a business model. Back when it was effective in the way you want it to be, it was still like digging out a basement with nothing but a spoon - a TON of work for the amount of reward.
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    • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
      Originally Posted by jasonl70 View Post

      I agree with alexa...

      In my opinion, articles are just a tactic - they are not a business model. Back when it was effective in the way you want it to be, it was still like digging out a basement with nothing but a spoon - a TON of work for the amount of reward.
      Really?? Oh dear, maybe I was sidetracked counting the money article marking makes me, when the IM world decided article marketing is an ineffective business model. What a shame.

      I utilize articles in multiple ways in my business: in my blogs, submitted to Ezine Articles and directly to a list of highly targeted webmasters for republication, in information distribution, occasionally as press releases, and most recently, re-purposed in videos.

      Way back, I used to write articles for others, but I've more or less closed down that shop, although very occasionally I do write for 3 remaining clients at $200+ a pop.

      My articles (written to inform only), contribute to traffic to a whole variety of websites, from a membership website which I began pre-internet back in the late 1990's, to a blog selling my own product, to straight affiliate blogs, to my own, personal blog.

      But... as you tell me I'm following such a bad, ineffective business model, I suppose I'd better hang up my keyboard and just go back to watching the Rugby World Cup. Go 'Boks!
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by AnniePot View Post

        Go 'Boks!
        The thread is deteriorating into a sportfest ... mind you, now I think about it, compared with some of what's above, that's actually much more of an improvement than a deterioration.
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        • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
          A somethingfest beginning with S, but "sport" wasn't the word I had in mind.

          I think watching rugby - or any activity involving hairy-legged men in shorts - might be a more enjoyable pastime for women.

          This "down-and-out" article marketer's own preference is to poison his consciousness with ethanol. As a self-confessed boozer who foreswears his pride so forthrightly more often than fortnightly, he would contend that, sometimes, hard liquors are a necessity.
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  • Profile picture of the author andynathan
    Let people start off with article directories. After a month or two they will realize that not having your own destination will be a huge setback to their business. That is what I realized very quickly after I started posting on Ezine. Within 1 month I had my own blog. Sometimes hard knocks are necessary.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by andynathan View Post

      Let people start off with article directories. After a month or two they will realize that not having your own destination will be a huge setback to their business. That is what I realized very quickly after I started posting on Ezine. Within 1 month I had my own blog. Sometimes hard knocks are necessary.
      I don't really disagree with you at all - I'm just slightly surprised to see a self-admitted schmoozer expressing it so forthrightly.
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  • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
    Originally Posted by precious007 View Post

    Are you 100% sure than each and every one of your articles generates $200 on the long run?
    This is not difficult nor far-fetched, Al.

    Another marketer here - Paul Uhl (myob - edit: posted just above - hope he doesn't mind me "bringing him into it" :p) regularly pulls in $x,xxx per article, I do believe.

    It's all about syndicating them to the right outlets/publishers, and getting them in front of the correct (and right number of) eyeballs.

    Originally Posted by precious007 View Post

    I agree that writing for yourself is far more productive by all means, however writing articles for $200 a-pop is far more profitable than most business models online. You could easily earn four figures a day, all by yourself.
    That'd be 5+ articles per day, though ... and it'd be quite a mammoth task for one person, I think, when factoring in the research, multiple edits and proofreading that are usually a necessary and integral part of the process of writing articles for clients paying those kinds of rates, expecting in exchange a certain level of quality that is relatively uncommon in the online world where editorial standards are somewhat lax, if they exist at all.

    I just don't think it'd be quite as easy as you might assume ...
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by DireStraits View Post

      That'd be 5+ articles per day, though ... and it'd be quite a mammoth task for one person, I think, when factoring in the research, multiple edits and proofreading that are usually a necessary and integral part of the process of writing articles for clients paying those kinds of rates, expecting in exchange a certain level of quality that is relatively uncommon in the online world where editorial standards are somewhat lax, if they exist at all.
      Indeed ... I never had (nor wanted) enough clients to be able to write 4/5 articles per day at $200 each, but I certainly couldn't do that (and wouldn't want to).

      My perspective is that an article writer who can earn that amount can - in the long run - do much better through affiliate marketing, effectively by being his/her own only client.

      Originally Posted by myob View Post

      Go New Zealand's Nudey Blacks!
      They don't look that black to me ...I'm "just saying" ...
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        The only thing I can add to this melee is my marketing model is just one sentence long:

        "Write quality articles, post on your website, submit to selected top article directories for syndication (I only use EZA currently), and market articles to context-relevant targeted outlets."

        It takes Alexa about 10,000 words to say the same thing, others here considerably less, but that's really about it.

        Now, I'm back to watching my team - with a closer look. :p
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          It takes Alexa about 10,000 words to say the same thing
          I haven't quite got used to not being paid by the word yet, what can I tell you?

          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          Now, I'm back to watching my team - with a closer look. :p
          Ah, they're your team, are they? The truth emerges ...
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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            Ah, they're your team, are they? The truth emerges ...
            There is something to be said about previously undefeatable men who can unabashedly bare all, lose to female Spanish Conquistadores, yet walk among their vanquishers with a stiff upper lip and head held high.
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  • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
    LOL. I knew he'd be doing something interesting with all that money from his article marketing.

    Put your Oakleys on, though, Paul - you don't want to be blinded by the light.
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  • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
    Originally Posted by precious007 View Post

    Are you 100% sure than each and every one of your articles generates $200 on the long run?
    No, that's most unlikely, but I'm at the point in my life where I like to do what I like to do, if you see what I mean.

    Originally Posted by precious007 View Post

    I agree that writing for yourself is far more productive by all means, however writing articles for $200 a-pop is far more profitable than most business models online. You could easily earn four figures a day, all by yourself. Moreover if you'd be offering a service and had quite a few employees and also had the ability to attract a decent number of customers that are eager to pull out their wallets and pay $200 for one article you might have been able to earn five figures a day, which in my opinion is any marketer's dream these days.
    Naah... I don't want to get tied down with employees. My life is exactly as I want it at the moment, I've an especially good marriage, and the way I have my IM life organized means I'm able to pull out my laptop and travel anywhere and whenever I wish - or, just leave it entirely behind if I so choose.

    My husband and I share interests in similar hobbies, horseracing being one of them, and I'm active in a thoroughbred retirement/retraining organization.

    As I mentioned, I write the occasional article for payment, and maybe I'm turning my back on a lucrative income, but all I can say is, I'm infinitely happier since I walked away from the pressure.
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