How Do You Form Your Opinion Of Fellow Warriors?

[Martin Luxton]

There have been a few threads recently that have touched on this

• Paul Myers' "Guru Bashing"
• John Taylor's 'To JV or Not to JV, That Is The Question"

and another just started a few minutes ago.


These are my criteria, in no particular order.

POSITIVE THINGS:

1. High number of posts.

Yes, I know it doesn't really matter, but if a spammer has managed 1,000 posts you have to admire their dedication.


2. Sense of humour.

All work and no play . . .


3. Sense of human.

They reveal things about themselves and their experiences that touch you.


4. Reply promptly and courteously to posts on their WSO thread.

Showing professionalism.


5. Use a picture and their real name.

Maybe it is a model from istockphoto and an alias, but you can check people out in more depth if you intend to do serious business with them.


6. Quality of their posts

Oops! This one was so obvious I almost forgot to include it.


7. Their newsletter


8. Their performance in other forums

Are they the same persona? Do they just cut and paste their WF posts?
(This can cut both ways).


9. Helping other Warriors without making a big song and dance about it.

This is a biggie. There are some people here who have been extremely generous to me and they got no public kudos for it.


10. Quality of their products.

Oops again!


11. Owning the forum.

This helps an awful lot.


Negative things:

1. They require you to join their list before they let you get the WSO you have just paid for.

Is this legal?


2. Two weeks on and they already have 376 Warrior "Friends".

Hey, I'm the most popular person on the Forum!


3. No website in their profile.

Not a crime, I'd just like to know a little bit more about you.


4. Not cutting newbies some slack.

We all have to start somewhere.


Okay, I don't want to spoil the fun and make the list too comprehensive.

What things influence your opinions of fellow Warriors?


Martin

[Michael Oksa]

I think that's a good list, Martin.

I might add to the negatives...being a troll, but then again I don't really consider them 'Warriors' per se.

Hopefully I rank high based on those criteria. (Notice I didn't say WHICH list I ranked high on).

But it is interesting to see the opinions you form based on a few pics, and the words people write - then to have that opinion drastically changed when you talk to them on the phone or meet them in person.

~Michael

[Ken Strong]

Originally Posted by Martin Luxton

1. They require you to join their list before they let you get the WSO you have just paid for.[/B]

Is this legal?

I don't believe it's against the rules, but the poster should make it clear before payment that they require opt-in, or else make it an option with a clearly marked link if you want to bypass that step and go directly to download.

[Keith Boisvert]

Damn it! I never thought of using an istockphoto for my picture!

Be right back....



~Keith

[Danyelle]

Originally Posted by Michael Oksa

I think that's a good list, Martin.

I might add to the negatives...being a troll, but then again I don't really consider them 'Warriors' per se.

Hopefully I rank high based on those criteria. (Notice I didn't say WHICH list I ranked high on).

But it is interesting to see the opinions you form based on a few pics, and the words people write - then to have that opinion drastically changed when you talk to them on the phone or meet them in person.

~Michael

What's a troll? (please don't say a creature under a bridge)

[Steven Fullman]

It's weird, but the longer I spend talking to all these 80x80px jpegs, the more it hits home how 'almost' human most of them are...

Great list, Martin, and lots to bear in mind...

Kind regs,
Steve

[Martin Luxton]

Danyelle,

A troll is someone who comes to a forum to stir up trouble.


Keith,

Too late, I took a screenshot. Now I know what you really look like (maybe).

Martin

[Steven Fullman]

Originally Posted by Danyelle

What's a troll? (please don't say a creature under a bridge)

Hi, Danyelle...

Here's the unofficial skinny on trolls:

Troll (Internet) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

HTH,
Steve

[Don Schenk]

I also look to see if someone's posts are helpful rather than being self-serving.

There is an amazing amount of sharing on this forum, and even more so over in the war room.

Don

[Nick Brighton]

I don't base my opinions of people on any of your
suggestive points. I base my opinions of people
(and their merit) in a forum environment, upon one
thing only:

The posts they give, which communicate their
ideas and beliefs on any given subject.

Even then, I don't judge... more so I try to
"take onboard" ideas and opinions. Call it a scientific
approach to marketing. The ideas and theories support
the facts, and vice versa.

After all, that's what forums are all about...free discussion.

I agree, trolls and spammers are a different breed,
but every one else gets my eyes and ears if I have
time to lend.

I don't care how many posts you've made.

I don't care if you don't respond publicly to customer
service queries, as long as you privately respond to mine.

I don't care if you think I am wrong about business...
...in fact I encourage it.

Otherwise, we'd all be trying to follow one path of
ideologies that only work for the creator, whom may
be far more coherent in executing certain tasks to
achieve certain goals...or may have the appropriate
spending power and resources to execute such plans,
whereas I may not...

...but of course, that's a different thread altogether.

[derekland]

The quality of their posts and having senses of fair-play and humour.

The avatar I could care less about, and post count just means they talk a lot.

[John Rowe]

My only criteria for liking members here on the board is the same as offline.
You must be good looking! Or I just don't like you.


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[Martin Luxton]

Nick

As I said, it wasn't a comprehensive list and there are probably things that influence me that I am not even aware of.

All the things I mentioned create layers of a filter which give me an indication of how I feel about this person. For example, there are people here who I like very much but I would have second thoughts about doing business with them.

Of course people's posts are a massive indicator but I have seen great posts by scammers.

Martin

[Kyle Tully]

How Do You Form Your Opinion Of Fellow Warriors?

First I Google them.

Do a whois on all their domains.

Get their home address.

Maybe wait outside in the bushes for a few days... just watching...

(You can tell a lot about a person by their showering habits.)

Er... that, or... I just go by their posts.

[Martin Luxton]

You must be good looking! Or I just don't like you.

Looks like I'll be joining Keith over at istockphoto

Martin

[Keith Boisvert]

Originally Posted by Martin Luxton

Looks like I'll be joining Keith over at istockphoto

Martin

Hey!

Never mind. You are right. I should rename my title to The Fugly Marketer

Keith

[Martin Luxton]

First I Google them.

Do a whois on all their domains.

Get their home address.

Maybe wait outside in the bushes for a few days... just watching...

(You can tell a lot about a person by their showering habits.)

Er... that, or... I just go by their posts.

LOL!


Being an Aussie helps too (except during the cricket season )


Martin

[BrianMcLeod]

Originally Posted by Kyle Tully

Maybe wait outside in the bushes for a few days... just watching...

This made me literally laugh out loud...

Good one, Kyle.

[jhongren]

9. Helping other Warriors without making a big song and dance about it.

This is a biggie. There are some people here who have been extremely generous to me and they got no public kudos for it.

I love this. Many Warriors have generously offer great tips and advice whenever other members have questions and they did post in the same thread to ask for follow up.

I think this is a supportive place to be and to learn.

John

[Diana Lane]

On a conscious level at least, looks don't really bother me. I'm a sucker for a sense of humour, but what really draws me to a person is fairness and integrity. It bothers me when I see people treating others in ways I wouldn't imagine they'd wish to be treated themselves. I like perseverance too - tall tales of millions made overnight don't do a lot for me, but I love it when someone comes on here with a credible 'triumph over traffic-less-ness' story.

My biggest turn-off though is people who treat themselves badly. I don't see how branding yourself as 'thick' when asking a question does you or anyone else any favours. I know I've mentioned that on here before - I guess the 'I'm thick' thing is turning into a bit of a pet hate here

[adarwish]

Originally Posted by John Rowe

My only criteria for liking members here on the board is the same as offline.
You must be good looking! Or I just don't like you.


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I'm a big fan of honesty , incriminating as it may be.

Seriously though, I have a great deal of respect for those that tell it how it is, keep it real and don't sugarcoat or BS.

[Jelasco]

Originally Posted by KenStrong

I don't believe it's against the rules, but the poster should make it clear before payment that they require opt-in, or else make it an option with a clearly marked link if you want to bypass that step and go directly to download.

It's funny- this forum is the only place I've seen people complain about that, after several thousand customers.

[John Rowe]

Originally Posted by Italian Guru

I'm with John Rowe, if you aren't good looking then shessh!! What gives?? hahaha.

I like you Italian Guru. But only because you're from Seattle.


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[John Rowe]

Originally Posted by Italian Guru

I like you because you have one hot a$$ :-)

You got that right. Should I push her in the pool?


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[Tristan Bull]

I personally try to get to know them away from the forum. Maybe exchange a few PM's and emails and then obviously if you are doing serious business jump on skype or on the phone and have a chat to get a feel for the person.

[peteinoz]

me?

I can figure out a personal relatively quickly by they way they contact me via PM.

Its amazing how rude people can be when asking for help....

On the other hand, people with some form of conflict can be so adult and human about it, their cred goes right up !!

Pete