bad news for IM industry - Google says "no" to unnecessary paged results

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This is a text from a Polish website - to save myself some time i have used a google translate so please forgive any dodgy grammar :-)

If they are seriously thinking about it then we are in trouble!!!


"Google says "no" to unnecessary paging

Google announced that they will do everything in their power to make sure search engines users are sent directly to a single page containing the desired content, rather than wade through results that contain the paged version.

Whenever the option is available that provides the entire text, Google will be just to link to it instead to a long line of websites to which most publishers would like to lead the search results. Paging content site owners to help in serving more ads to readers. However, the Google study clearly shows that it is quite intolerable practice from the perspective of Internet users.

True, Google helps publishers to indicate how services are linked together various parts of the article and display them, if they so desire, but also inform that users generally prefer the option that shows all the search results. Exceptions are very large pages, where loading takes a long time, which unnecessarily prolongs the waiting time.

Company of Mountain View has always depended on the speed of delivery of results, so the reports that webmasters can take simple steps to avoid sites like "view-all" in its index (no need to use link rel = "canonical", pointing to the "view-all ", just apply the new attributes rel =" next "and rel =" prev ", so to link to individual pages included in the series).

Certainly, most website owners do not welcome this gesture of open arms, but the comfort of ordinary Google users will increase significantly thanks to him."
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  • Profile picture of the author Rick Britton
    can you explain what actually means?
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    • Profile picture of the author eskimoto
      it means that if for example you type into google "how to get rid of bad breath" then google will try to get you directly to a website with a full article about it instead of showing a standard page full of results.

      its bad for IM because if you organic search results are almost like free ads, even if you are page 1 spot 7 someone might get interested, click on a link and get to you website. however if google introduces this new thing nobody will get a chance to see your link at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rick Britton
    do you mean the user gets no choice in which site they end up reaching?

    Will they not get a list of all the sites that contain a related article?

    I fail to see the problem but then I am probably thick

    EDIT: YEAH I DO

    I dont want Google deciding what site I get shown when I do a search. I can decide. Just gimme a list of places that kinda match what I am looking for....

    wait

    isnt that what happens now?
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  • Profile picture of the author LarryC
    This is hard to believe. That would be inconsistent with the whole concept of a search engine. I can imagine a smaller search engine doing something like this, based on paid ads, but not Google. When you think about it, it doesn't even make sense. Suppose you don't like the page they send you to -how would you find another page?
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    • Profile picture of the author VinnyBock
      Originally Posted by LarryC View Post

      This is hard to believe. That would be inconsistent with the whole concept of a search engine. I can imagine a smaller search engine doing something like this, based on paid ads, but not Google. When you think about it, it doesn't even make sense. Suppose you don't like the page they send you to -how would you find another page?
      I totally agree, I can't see Google or any major search engine for that matter doing something like this...
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  • Profile picture of the author eskimoto
    Whenever the option is available that provides the entire text, Google will be just to link to it instead to a long line of websites to which most publishers would like to lead the search results.

    well, they way i understand this is that an end user would not get a choice to which site they get linked to
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  • Profile picture of the author eskimoto
    i have just found two source articles about this

    Official Google Webmaster Central Blog: Pagination with rel=“next” and rel=“prev”

    Even Google is Tired of Needlessly Paginated Content — SiliconFilter


    maybe i am understanding this in the wrong way but if i dont then it seems like the big G is serious about it
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  • Profile picture of the author Rick Britton
    I would definitely switch search engine if this happens

    I often use Metacrawler anyway so I could switch Google off in there

    they would be idiots if they do this
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  • Profile picture of the author kiddi
    I don't see the problem here, google wants to direct users to the full version of an article, instead of a version that is paginated over a few pages. I think that's a great move, it's annoying always having to click next several times just to read a page.

    Directing searchers straight to a page, instead of showing them a number of search results, is not going to happen.
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    • Profile picture of the author eskimoto
      Originally Posted by kiddi View Post

      I don't see the problem here, google wants to direct users to the full version of an article, instead of a version that is paginated over a few pages. I think that's a great move, it's annoying always having to click next several times just to read a page.

      Directing searchers straight to a page, instead of showing them a number of search results, is not going to happen.

      Seems like the article was worded very badly. what you are saying makes much more sense to me
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    • Profile picture of the author Freemon
      I agree with kiddi. Taking ten different page clicks, waiting for all the ads to load on a site just to get through one article is just a hassle. and you don't back out of it because you're already invested in the information. I couldn't really argue with something that improved that. But not to have results show up in a search like they always have, giving the user a chance to choose? Let's hope not. Many of us would have to rethink our whole program. Ouch.
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  • Profile picture of the author kiddi
    Yes, what it means is not what you think. You are completely misunderstanding it.

    I'm pretty sure that this won't have any effect on the majority of webmasters, only those that prefer to split their articles in many sections.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    I believe what they are saying is that the person doing the search will still see as many results, BUT the sites that are linked to COULD be different.

    For example, if you look for "10 Tips to Better Underwater Basket Weaving" the first link of the 10,397 results you click on now would take you to a site where they only show the 1st tip...then you have to click the "Next Tip" button to see Tip #2, and keep clicking "Next Tip" until you get to Tip #10. So, you haven't really visited 1 page, you have visited 10.

    Now, let's say that exact same page has a link that says "Printer Friendly Version" or "See All 10 Tips", then Google is saying it will now give preference to THOSE types of pages.

    There will still be 10, 397 results for Google's users, but they will be taken to complete articles WHERE THEY EXIST. So, if no option exists, then the searcher will go to the Tip #1 and have to click anyway.

    To me, the real question is will Google take weight away from full article pages IF a series of pages also exists.

    Anyway, that's my understanding of the whole thing, and it may not be a big deal for marketers. As a user, it will be GOOD for me.

    All the best,
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  • Profile picture of the author Rick Britton
    ahh good

    I always have full articles on page
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  • Profile picture of the author eskimoto
    Originally Posted by eskimoto View Post

    Google announced that they will do everything in their power to make sure search engines users are sent directly to a single page containing the desired content, rather than wade through results that contain the paged version.

    yep...i got it 100% wrong...but please make me feel better and admit this sentence could have confused me :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      If they chose to direct to a single page, they would be throwing a business down the pan.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by eskimoto View Post

      yep...i got it 100% wrong...but please make me feel better and admit this sentence could have confused me :-)
      Okay, I admit it. That sentence could have confused you...

      Feel better?
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      • Profile picture of the author eskimoto
        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        Okay, I admit it. That sentence could have confused you...

        Feel better?

        yes i do! thanks ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author tolxeaquarius
    I don´t understand this quite so does this mean that you would have to have a keyword optimized article on your site?
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by tolxeaquarius View Post

      I don´t understand this quite so does this mean that you would have to have a keyword optimized article on your site?
      Some sites provide two versions of an article on their site. One version has the article on a single page. One version is split up across several pages.

      If Google finds both versions on the site, they will give preference to the version on the single page.

      That's it.

      About the only sites that may suffer will be the ones that scatter content across multiple pages to generate more ad impressions.
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  • Profile picture of the author onSubie
    Hi

    I think the article is talking about what pages Google tries to present in the SERPS.

    It wants to publish results that are links to entire articles. Not links to sites that that are collections of lists/links to articles.

    So (just my opinion) Google is saying:

    "everything in their power to make sure search engines users are sent directly to a single page containing the desired content (when they click on a SERP), rather than wade through results that contain the/a paged (copied/summarized/directory of articles) version."

    This is a lot of what they did with Panda and, I think, not new information.

    As has been mentioned, it would be impossible to take you to THE page with the complete article when searchers are only typing in a partial sentences or lists of relevant terms.

    Mahlon
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    I don't see a problem with this, but then, I don't paginate articles. I prefer a single page article when I'm reading than to have to view page after page unless it is a very, very long article.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rick Britton
    yes my sites are all content stuff

    articles and info about health and stuff like that, all single page per article

    wont affect me then?
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