Question for PLR users

by grafic
12 replies
Hello,

I am in the process of preparing a selection of PLR packages and I am thinking about including spun versions of each of the articles with the package.

I would like to know if those of you who regularly use PLR would benefit from buying it with quality hand-spun versions of the articles included.

If so what would be the minimum degree of spinning you require...
Slightly spun maintaining legibility on ALL spins?
or highly spun sacrificing quality for quantity?

Would you be more interested in a folder full of spins or just the original spintax version?

If you were to get some PLR content with quality spun versions included would you be prepared to pay more for it?

Any opinions would be very welcome,

Andy
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  • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
    I buy/use PLR and I wouldn't buy a PLR package of spun content. I would recommend you spend that time producing quality PLR packages than going for quantity via spinning.

    I would pay more for quality vs. spun. That's just me of course. Maybe you're sitting on a goldmine idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author grafic
    Thanks for the input guys...

    i think we all agree that mass spinning isn't any good to anyone if it doesn't read well. If you want that sort of content then you can get a hold of any spinning software, dial it up to eleven and create tons of rubbish at the press of a button.

    I still think that quality spun articles might be appealing to some marketers as they will still read well but have some uniqueness too.

    The whole question really comes back to the duplicate content debate and what your own personal stance on that is. This will probably have an important influence on your decision as to whether or not you would benefit from spending time or money on readable unique articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author Selmicro
    With hundreds of people on fiverr offering to write articles for $5, I would have to question the value of spinning articles at all.

    Now, that said, if you get someone on fiver to write for you, you can probably get them to write several different versions. Yes this would still be considered spinning, but when the author does it by simply rewriting the article from a slightly different point of view, it isn't the same as machine spun.

    it is also possible to develop a library of key articles on various topics that you draw from when/if building web sites lets say. With this approach you guarantee that the exact same combination of articles never appears together and that is the real point behind the issues of duplicate content.

    Think about it. The big news sites create only a minimal amount of their own content, most simply post the stories from the AP and other sources.

    Likewise, how many websites are selling any one specific product based upon the product description from the vendor?

    Bottom line is that most of the content on the web is duplicated, a number of times.

    The real spinning that needs to be done is at the article level, not at the word level.

    By that I mean don't simply duplicate the entire product, regardless if it is a website or an ebook. If you product two products for the same niche, don't make them duplicates of each other. If each is composed of 10 articles or sections, draw from a library of 14 or 15 articles so there is some variety in them

    this also brings up the concept of selling multiple copies of a website. Lets say you have a wordpress site, that has been up and running for over a year, uses a highly respected drip feed system and currently has over 2,500 posts and 7,500 comments...

    Now one theory says that selling ten of these would make them less valuable individually.

    Why? If you build a similar site, clone it ten times, then make changes to the drip feed system and add a couple of new articles/pages and a few posts every month, within 3 months or so, the sites will all be significantly different from each other.

    By just making a few minor changes to the drip feed system, and nothing, the content coming in over the next 3 months will be totally different that was was coming in previously.
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  • Profile picture of the author grafic
    I think the bottom line is that people want as much content as possible for a little as possible. The thing is, with little or no budget the content will either be duplicated or crap.

    I still want to know if there is a legitimate use for articles that are say 30% - 40% spun?

    Are these are still duplicate content in the eyes of the search engines?

    If two sites have the same article but one uses a spun version will they both be listed... after all they have 70% of the same content
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    • Profile picture of the author Johnny Optimo
      Originally Posted by grafic View Post

      I think the bottom line is that people want as much content as possible for a little as possible. The thing is, with little or no budget the content will either be duplicated or crap.

      I still want to know if there is a legitimate use for articles that are say 30% - 40% spun?

      Are these are still duplicate content in the eyes of the search engines?

      If two sites have the same article but one uses a spun version will they both be listed... after all they have 70% of the same content
      No, google doesn't count that as dupe content, you should be fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author deannatroupe
    I prefer to rewrite my articles by hand so a package containing already spun articles would not benefit me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      I would recommend you including the article in spintax, or ready to spin, and let the customer spin if they choose. If you include pre-spun articles and they're all getting the same ones, then there is no additional benefit to having them.

      I don't use these myself so it wouldn't be an extra benefit for me but I have had quite a few requests for articles in spintax so I believe you'd see a good customer base for that service.

      One suggestion might be to offer both - say a 10 pack on traffic generation with one version being just the original articles for a certain price and then offer the second pack with the spintax versions for a bit more. Like maybe $10 for the originals and $15 for the pack with the originals and the spintax versions.

      I'd recommend trying this only for 2-3 packages and see if it pays off for you but I really think you'll get some buyers.
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      • Profile picture of the author grafic
        Originally Posted by Tina Golden View Post


        One suggestion might be to offer both - say a 10 pack on traffic generation with one version being just the original articles for a certain price and then offer the second pack with the spintax versions for a bit more.
        Thanks for that Tina, I had already done just that.
        However my site has only been up for less than a day and I have only had one customer so far... who opted for the non-spun version.

        I think from what I can tell that this will definitely be of interest to some and definitely not be of interest to others.

        I suppose its a case of seeing if it is worth going the extra mile for.
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  • Profile picture of the author cbrauer
    As search engines rewrite code for their spiders thay are starting to use "group word technology" that can detect spun content. As a search engine developer I have also stared using this method. if you have a 500 word article and 325 words or more are the same as content already indexed my spiders moves on. Sites that contain 50,000 words or more with grouped content that carries a +250K value(meaning half of the content is the same as previously indexed sites that site is not listed) are not listed in the search results on my search engine.

    Also, my spiders are designed to skip product spacific sites that are all affiliate driven. If you have a site with products listed on it or tons of product information and no ssl or checkout on your site your site will not be included in search results. I know this sucks for adsense driven and affiliate sites but they kill the results people are looking for. we are just trying to create a better search engine for everyone.
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    • Profile picture of the author grafic
      Thanks for your opinion from the 'other side of the fence'. Very interesting.

      Originally Posted by cbrauer View Post

      Sites that contain 50,000 words or more with grouped content that carries a +250K value(meaning half of the content is the same as previously indexed sites that site is not listed) are not listed in the search results on my search engine.
      What is the percentage of grouped content you have programmed for your spider to pass over the site and move on?...
      i.e. How much duplicate content are you allowing?

      (if you don't mind me asking)


      Originally Posted by cbrauer View Post

      If you have a site with products listed on it or tons of product information and no ssl or checkout on your site your site will not be included in search results.
      Does 'paypal checkout' or having a content delivery system in place count as 'checkout' with your SE?
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkusD
    What Tina said above is a good idea. I use this sort of spun content for backlinking purposes. I do however do all the spinning in house atm, as I want to control the way the article reads. I won't put out gibberish, even for backlinks.

    As Tina said, try it, see if there is a market for you and if it's worth your time.
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  • Profile picture of the author philm67
    Make it a "No Spin Zone", Andy.
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