Marketers: What would you do with this...?

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I'm halfway finished with an ebook I'm writing. It's in the seduction niche. Specifically, it's on how to pick up women while guys are traveling.

I am in the "seduction community" and noticed that there is nothing available like this. When I was younger I would find myself on vacation and wishing to hook up with the local girls. Don't you single guys and girls also get that feeling when off on vacation?

Anyways my concern is that there are no products like this and it goes against the grain of writing an ebook on something that is tried and tested.

On a positive note I can see it marketed towards people who are traveling, but I'm not exactly sure how to reach them.

This is my first attempt at writing an ebook and I do not have an email list.

What would you guys do? Any thoughts on how you would sell it? Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author funkynassau
    I'm not in the market for a fling while on holiday, but I gotta say I like your idea and hope you can make it work. Surely there are enough shy guys and women out there who'd like a few pointers.
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    • Profile picture of the author LOM
      I'm in a totally different market as well. But if it was me I would create a 3 to 6 part mini series of the ebook. I would use the first part as a way to start an email list. I would leak pages slowly (or parts) depending how many pages the ebook has, then after I created a good relationship with my potential customer I would try to sell it. Free "stuff" and customer relationships are very important!
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  • Profile picture of the author helisell
    Before you create any new product you need to know:

    Is there a market who will pay for it?
    Can you reach them easily?(drive traffic economically)
    Can you create a sales message that will convert?
    (make a good converting website)

    If you can answer yes to these questions then go ahead and make your product.

    If you make the product first without knowing the above, then you have one BIG task ahead of you....and no way of knowing if you'll make money ever.

    That's why the research is the most important part.

    It's a mistake made by many who are new to IM.

    Good luck though.....if at first you don't succeed...try..try...try
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    • Profile picture of the author mariomvr
      Originally Posted by helisell View Post

      Before you create any new product you need to know:

      Is there a market who will pay for it?
      Can you reach them easily?(drive traffic economically)
      Can you create a sales message that will convert?
      (make a good converting website)

      If you can answer yes to these questions then go ahead and make your product.

      If you make the product first without knowing the above, then you have one BIG task ahead of you....and no way of knowing if you'll make money ever.

      That's why the research is the most important part.

      It's a mistake made by many who are new to IM.

      Good luck though.....if at first you don't succeed...try..try...try
      I would only add this, build a list first. I understand the need to sell but if you actually build a list on your market, than you will know if that is a good topic or not. In fact you will even know exactly what is your target market struggling with.

      Regards
      Mario
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  • Profile picture of the author AdwordsMogul
    You can change the theme slightly; a lot of guys don't mind going to a different city to find girls.

    This will make it easier since there is a more widely available audience for this.
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    • Profile picture of the author ipdster
      Thank you everyone!!!

      I'm going to incorporate so much of this. So in a nutshell here is my plan of action:

      -Set up PPC for kw's related to "how to pick up women". I've done this before and I know that I can go under $0.20 / click

      -Set up a landing page offering a free 5 part mini-series. I got an aweber account last week for this.

      -Optimize/split test everything and if there is reasonable interest finish and offer the book for $27.


      So to answer the critical questions:
      Is there a market who will pay for it? There is a market (dating market).
      Can you reach them easily?(drive traffic economically)For testing purposes PPC is fairly cheap. And later on I can contact list holders and other forms of free traffic
      Can you create a sales message that will convert?With the help of the Warriorforum's copyright section, I can keep on editing the sales page until it does convert

      So, I think that I am in the clear. I'll also put up fliers at the local universities and see how that goes.
      Awesome.
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  • Profile picture of the author massiveray
    Make affiliate offers to well known sites in this genre. (cough cough, mine)

    I know we are always looking for quality stuff to promote. If it is good our readers will generally buy it.
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    • Profile picture of the author ipdster
      Originally Posted by massiveray View Post

      Make affiliate offers to well known sites in this genre. (cough cough, mine)

      I know we are always looking for quality stuff to promote. If it is good our readers will generally buy it.
      That's great. I will do that too. But first I'll have to read up a little bit about affiliate marketing.
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      • Profile picture of the author massiveray
        Originally Posted by ipdster View Post

        That's great. I will do that too. But first I'll have to read up a little bit about affiliate marketing.
        Send us review copies and check out our site (collegeflirt . net) and we'll see what we can do.
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  • Profile picture of the author HarryPothead
    I've some experience in this niche. NOT marketing BUT Reading
    I advise you to go to the seduction communities like Nick Savoy - Love system forum, David DeAngelo websites, Neil Strauss, Mystery websites. There you can have a head start of those people who actually are looking for your product.
    Best would be to start by advertising on forum..like the one you just did..but more targetted forum. Once the product is live and people find it worthy..it the selling will speed up automatically.

    Since it's your first attempt, I'm all set for review if you're planning to give away some review copies..lemme know..hope it helps..Enjoy!!
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  • Profile picture of the author World Marketing
    This sounds like a good idea but make sure you have enough of an audience to market to!
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
      Originally Posted by World Marketing View Post

      This sounds like a good idea but make sure you have enough of an audience to market to!

      Post #8 in this thread states that he believes there is.
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      • Profile picture of the author ipdster
        Massiveray & Harrypothead: I'll send you a review copy when the book is complete. Thanks

        Miketucker: I'm just following "google adwords for dummies" to a T. I did a lot of adwords optimization for my first project: be more bold .com, so I'll rely on those words starting out. They're not great keywords as in "buy mystery method", but I'm constantly adding and weeding out words.

        Mike, how would you post fliers in distant airports? Hire someone off craigslist to do it?
        I don't remember there being many places to post fliers at the airport. Obviously colleges are a different story with all of their bulletin boards...
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