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I am new to this and am about to put my affiate links on my website. Before I do I wanted to know if most of you "cloak" your links in order to reduce commisson loss. ıf so which method do you use ? |
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Hi Jekiko, Yes, cloak your affiliate links. You won't really see a lot of people leaving the affiliate links on their websites if they know what they're doing. Asher |
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Thanks for the reply, what method do you use ? I have looked at using mod_rewite and also "header("Location: aff_lnk")" method |
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![]() I might be losing some sales, but I don't see affiliate links as being a problem outside the IM niche. | |
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Not just of click fraud but also to combat people who avoid clicking no affiliate links. The two simplest ways are using a PHP redirect or HTML redirect. PHP Redirect - Create a file such as "the-aff-product.php" and use this code: Code: <?php header( 'Location: http://www.SOMESITE.com/affpage.html' ) ; ?> Code: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <title>Affiliate Product Name</title> <meta http-equiv="REFRESH" content="0;url=http://www.SOMESITE.com/affpage.html"> </HEAD> <BODY> Please wait, loading "the product name" page.</BODY> </HTML> |
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Is this a concern with CJ or Linkshare links as well? Does that script cloak all of the aff links you have or just specific ones? Is there a script that will work with all links or any links? Thanks, -Bob |
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You'll need to check with your affiliate providers to make sure this is feasible. Some of my providers don't work well with redirects. I've had issues with extended redirect times with some.
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There some products out there both free and paid for that cloak the link like LinkGuard but I can't see the point of them when simple redirects must work. Does anyone use mod_rewrite to do the same thing ? Another method I've see is to use a tinyurl but that seems a bit, well unprofessional What do you guys think - any other methods ? |
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Domain forwarding is the most effective method. Register a domain and use that as the "middle man', for your affiliate links. Put all your affiliate links onto this domain. Then mask this page; whenever someone clicks on an affiliate link it goes to this domain, all affiliate links are masked on it, so only the " middle man", domain is displayed.
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Personally, I think its unprofessional to cloak a link. When I mouse over and see the address the link goes to, I want to go to that address, not a redirect. If I am redirected, I will probably leave your site and never go back. To answer the question: Quote:
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I cloak everything. But I have a different reason. I like to be in complete control of my links and I want to have access to control them whenever I want. Here's an example: I once sent out a newsletter with cloaked links. Thing is, the link was WRONG! Instead of writing off the loss, I jumped in my cloaker's admin area and fixed the link. I missed a few clicks, but the campaign was not a flop. The same goes for forum posting and blog comments. I can change links and test performance. Cloaked links rule, man. Note: you don't need cloaker software to do this. HTM and PHP redirects do the same. It's just more manual work than managing them from one location. |
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Can you please give me a bit more info on how to do this "masking" ? Or perhaps point me to where I can learn more about it. Thanks | |
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Not all registrars provide this service, but Namecheap.com - Cheap domain name registration, renewal and transfers - Free SSL Certificates - Web Hosting - Free URL Forwarding, e-mail forwarding and DNS services are included with our cheap domain names registration service does. Once you have registered a domain, you go into the section called manage domains. You will see an option called domain forwarding. You click on it and it will ask you where you want it forwarded to. You can paste your affiliate link in one box and the URL in the other and it will forward it for you every time someone clicks on that URL. Michele |
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Jekiko Godaddy provide this service as well. I have seen some videos on youtube showing you how to do the forwarding step by step. Just search for "domain forwarding masking godaddy" on youtube. all the best |
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I use a redirect to an affiliate page because sometimes a cloaked link will not work in some browsers.
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I use Godaddy and get new domain names and forward and mask my links. It's super easy! Check for a domain name (research good keyword for that niche) and go to domain manager and click on forward domain..
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I always cloak... I just use redirects... Works great for me but you need domains to do it. Thanks, Micah Rush <>< |
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So some of you guys/gals are buying a domain for every one of your affiliate products? WOW So maybe Im not so sharp but - are you that buy a domain and redirect it - never planning on doing OTHER affilioate products? Seems kinda odd to drop $10 a yr just to redirect a link ...? If you have a blog / wp ... who is using GoCodes? |
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There's various reasons for using masking and forwarding. I don't only do that, I usually cloak my links. However, if you are doing article marketing and you want the link in your resource box to go straight to the vendor's page, ezinearticles.com won't accept an affiliate link, unless it is a top level domain, so if I'm not directing traffic to my own sites first, and want the person to go straight to the vendor's page, I use masking and forwarding via a top level domain name. www.yoursite.com/page.html is not accepted by them. It depends on what I'm doing, as to how I redirect my affiliate links. ![]() Quote:
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I may not be that much of a geek so I use a very simple method: a 301 redirect in the .htaccess file. There are also scripts that do this for you, in a nice convenient interface. (I think there was something called "Gotrythis", for example.) |
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Some great ideas so far, I think domain forwarding is the most effective method. Get and register a domain and use that as the go between for your affiliate links. Then put all your affiliate links into the one domain. Masking is always a better option here so that whenever someone clicks on one of your affilliate links it moves them directly to your own domain so that all affiliate links are hidden and masked on it, so that thing visible is your domain name. Just my 2 cents! |
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I am new to CPA as well so let me see if I get this straight....by simply using my own godaddy domain and forwarding it to my affiliate link and masking it...the CPA networks could not source my traffic? thanks |
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| Hello, ![]() I think this whole idea of link cloaking may not really be all that necessary. But sometimes i do use tinyurl to cloak my links but in general i don't and this hasn't really affected me in anyway.At least not so far! jitendra |
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We break frames automatically because some link cloaking actually causes problems. Plus I do not want anyone tricking their visitors into thinking my content is actually on their site. It confuses people as to where to go for support and who they are doing business with. One extreem link cloaking script was so sticky that it tried to keep cloaking when the sale was referred from the order button to the paypal process. This cause browser security to jump in and notify that the cloaking script was potentially a phishing attempt on the visitors paypal account. For this reason we break frames and bust through this type of irresponsible cloaking on purpose. I see no need for anything more than a simple php redirect in most cases. With our system an affiliate really does not need more than that because even if someone deletes their cookies, signs up as an affiliate, and buys off their own link our system knows who the legitimate first referring affiliate was and rewards them completely foiling the thief. We track by IP and cookie and we developed a smart anti affiliate theft system that rewards the legit affiliate. |
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a few things to keep in mind... If using something like tinyurl - when a large number of people are using the same domain (eg tinyurl.com) if someones cloaked link is listed as containing a virus - it will contaminate the whole domain - that is ALL cloaked links. I know this because it happened to me when I was using offto as a cloaker. There is no need to buy a heap of domains to handle your cloaked links - that's just a total waste of money!! Maybe have one, but you don't even need to do that. A good cloaker should operate on your existing domain. eg if you have a site ultimatedogtraining(.)com - your links could be ultimatedogtraining(.)com/recommends or /links or whatever takes your fancy. Depending on what cloaking system you use (including html and php) a quick look at the source code will reveal the affiliate link - leaving it open for another marketer to swipe it. Non IM niches aren't as essential for cloaking links to protect the links, but a professional looking link is a lot more attractive for a visitor to click on than some of the ugly hop links. A visitor is more likely to click on mywebsite(.)com/recommends/sitstayfetch than they are to click on http://mynamehere(.)robotstock.hop.c...id=DOGTRAINING A good cloaker will also give you other benefits, like tracking stats, landing page encryption (this means that even if you look at the source code, all info including the affiliate link is scrambled and can't be read), and will also give the ability to save ALL your affiliate links - once, regardless of how many domains or niches you operate. There are some good link cloakers out there, but most of them require using databases or MYSql (pfft certainly not something I know how to use lol) and can cause a bit of drama getting them to work properly. Or they are ridiculously expensive! Personally I always use a link cloaker - wouldn't be without it! |
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To answer the op's question, I always cloak my links so they look like mydomain(.)com/go/productname I use Mike Filsaime's Power Link Generator, got it as a bonus for one of his other products I bought years ago (can't for the life of me remember which one.. lol), the latest versions can be used with or without a MySQL database... but for the way I'm using it, simple PHP redirects would work just as well, they'd just require a little more work to set up new redirects. | ||
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I think Hostgator provides the domain forwarding too. I think TinyURL looks unprofessional, but Iuse it in my blog (not for aff links). The MySQL business isn't intimidating if you have cPanel and reliable link cloaker software. I like the my.com/recommends/product approach. Generally people (at least in IM) recognise that as an aff link and will either go for it, or not....
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Why not just use cPanel to set up redirects like this? http://mydomain.com/affproduct ----> goes to http://affiliateproductsite.com or use subdomains http://product.mydomain.com ------> goes to http://affiliateproductsite.com Anything beyond that seems like a waste of energy in my opinion. |
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By creating a redirect page for your affiliate link you have much more control and can easily make changes in one place. Say you have one of your affiliate links in 265 places on the Internet. The affiliate program owner suddenly changes the link in some way and you have to manually change your link 265 times. But if you have a redirect page in place, you just need to make 1 change for all your 265 links and they will all work fine. As an affiliate you should allways build your own redirect pages, for each and every affiliate link OR use software such as GoTryThis. Another thing equally important: never send your visitors directly to vendor's squeeze page. Build your own squeeze page, give them a free special report or something, and then send them to vendor's sales page through your emails. The link in your email should off course point to your redirect page |
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Great point that should not be overlooked. Even better, send them to the vendors page after they opt-in. | |
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Check out our software that cloaks, encrypts, tracks, saves links, rotates offers and heaps more. This is the software that James Schramko uses and also talked about on stage at the recent World Internet Summit. The link is the first one in my sig |
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Yes I cloak my links using a Double Meta Refresh system. Micah Rush |
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they change the lalala to their own ID before purchasing, and soo many people lose sales that way and don't realize it. Which is why I rarely use php forwarding unless its absolutely required (like if the affiliate site doesn't work with frames). Quote:
Sure I could go through a whole bunch of photoshop tutorials and sort of get the grasp of it but why bother when I can get a nice easy to use program to make headers/graphics for me? (or outsource it if there isn't anything available) Time is the most vital and scare resource of Internet Marketers and much more valuable than money. | ||
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I never use a frame or iframe based redirect anymore because the default security settings on a lot of browsers these days are pretty picky about third-party cookies. That's true, but for things like setting up MySQL databases (since it can usually be done in under a minute once you know how), that's something I'd suggest anyone should learn how to do because it's simple and at some point all of us are probably going to need to do it. | |
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Yes, I do. The easiest thing to do is to buy a .info domain from $1.07 from Go Daddy and do redirect/masking to your affiliate link. You can go on to You tube and type: Go Daddy Domain forward and masking. There's at least a couple videos that show you how to do it. If you have a website, you can do a PHP script re-direct which costs you nothing, but you'll have to ask the more savvy members in the forum how to do that. But before you attempt to cloak any of your affiliate links, copy and past your link into a browser and see if the link is already re-directed. Sometimes the vendor will automatically have this done for you. Clickbank does not do this, so you'll have cloak the link yourself. |
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