Sell digital products within and without Clickbank/e-Junkie simultaneously?

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I have created a set of digital products that I want to sell on-line. From browsing, my sense is that there aren't many affiliates in my niche, but I could be wrong. In this niche, I found 5 products on ClickBank and none on eJunkie. Mostly there seem to be sites selling their own products.

To start with I'd like to just try selling the items myself, doing my own promotion, and see how it goes.

But I want to keep the option of using e-Junkie or ClickBank in the near future and see whether there are affiliates interested in selling my stuff.

The question is, once I'm using EJ/CB, do my own sales have to go through the Ej/CB process (and pay the fees etc.) as well, or can I keep my sales separate--without having to create completely different sales pages for each source?


My second question is about structuring a motivator (there's probably a jargon term for this ), i.e. I want to offer a couple of bonuses if they buy within 24 hours (probably cookie-based).
Can this be managed with Clickbank or eJunkie?
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  • Profile picture of the author ronaldmd
    Originally Posted by KitschWitch View Post

    The question is, once I'm using EJ/CB, do my own sales have to go through the Ej/CB process (and pay the fees etc.) as well, or can I keep my sales separate--without having to create completely different sales pages for each source?
    Of course you have to pay the fees. If you want lower fees, use PayPal. If you want to create different sales page, you can. Create the same sales page with different buy now button. One is for ejunkie/clickbank affiliates, one is for yourself.

    Originally Posted by KitschWitch View Post

    My second question is about structuring a motivator (there's probably a jargon term for this ), i.e. I want to offer a couple of bonuses if they buy within 24 hours (probably cookie-based).
    Can this be managed with Clickbank or eJunkie?
    Nope, you need custom script for this. I hope you're good with php or asp.
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    • Profile picture of the author KitschWitch
      Thanks for your thoughts Ronald.

      Originally Posted by ronaldmd View Post

      Of course you have to pay the fees. If you want lower fees, use PayPal. If you want to create different sales page, you can. Create the same sales page with different buy now button. One is for ejunkie/clickbank affiliates, one is for yourself.
      I assumed I would have to pay the fees if it went through Clickbank or eJunkie. I thought there might be a clever way to avoid having duplicate sales pages. Sounds like there might not be.

      Originally Posted by ronaldmd View Post

      Nope, you need custom script for this. I hope you're good with php or asp.
      I'm not worried about managing the timing of the bonus (I'm a fair programmer and dh is a a professional web programmer--but with no affiliate sales experience between us).

      I'm trying to get my head around how it would be set up in eJunkie or Clickbank--I'm guessing I would have to set up two "products" with the same price but different inclusions (one with the bonuses). At least that's how I think eJunkie would need it since they handle the download end of the business. (From my reading, CB requires you to have a download page... not sure of how they work it technically).

      But since CB in particular seem to be quite particular about pricing and vetting products, I wasn't sure if this type of product structure would be approved.

      I've seen this done on other sites and wondered how they've set it up. I was hoping someone here had done something similar.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by KitschWitch View Post

    To start with I'd like to just try selling the items myself, doing my own promotion, and see how it goes.

    But I want to keep the option of using e-Junkie or ClickBank in the near future and see whether there are affiliates interested in selling my stuff.
    It strikes me that there are two main things you need to know, here ...

    (i) Unless you're a well-known vendor with existing affiliates and a stellar reputation for paying your affiliates promptly and reliably, you may find it very much easier to attract affiliates at ClickBank (or DigiResults or RapBank) because those companies handle the affiliate payments. The huge importance of this, from the affiliates' perspective, is that we're not dependent on the vendor for payment (something that isn't typically an acceptable set-up to the more serious affiliates who have the potential to bring you most of the sales).

    (ii) It's inadvisable to try to use both. Very, very few serious ClickBank affiliates are going to put their time, energy, effort and resources into promoting a product that has another sales page elsewhere when they don't have to, and have about 15,000 other products from which to choose.

    Would you? :confused:

    The affiliates' problem here is that our prospective customer (with our Clickbank cookie on his PC), not having bought at his first visit to the sales page (which most don't, of course), can find the product again the following week via a Google search, which then takes him to the PaySpree/PDC/E-Junkie/whatever sales-page, and our Clickbank cookie is no good to us there.

    If the Clickbank sales-page is the only sales-page (as is usually the case, of course), we still get paid, even if the customer gets back to that page via Google. This is why vendors on Clickbank who have another sales page elsewhere, or another non-Clickbank way to pay, can attract only affiliates who haven't quite thought it through. Call me a judgmental skepchick but I would venture to suggest that those are perhaps not the affiliates whom many vendors would ideally wish to attract?

    In other words: it will make a difference to some affiliates, but those will typically be the ones who make most of the affiliate-referred sales.

    There's a kind of way round it, but it involves repackaging the product under another name (some vendors do this). This can work, but you can also get a few refund requests from people who've inadvertently bought it twice, and it might be less than ideal for "goodwill".

    Originally Posted by KitschWitch View Post

    My second question is about structuring a motivator (there's probably a jargon term for this ), i.e. I want to offer a couple of bonuses if they buy within 24 hours (probably cookie-based). Can this be managed with Clickbank or eJunkie?
    The "jargon term" for that is "fake urgency", and it will also put off many serious, professional affiliates, I think.

    Bonuses are fine (if they're relevant and if there aren't so many of them that they detract from the value-perception of the item being sold). Urgency is fine, too. But this isn't urgency: it's "fake urgency", and people typically see that for what it is, and it alienates many people. Professional affiliates know that the vendors doing that haven't actually split-tested it, because the ones who have split-tested it aren't usually doing it any more.
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    • Profile picture of the author KitschWitch
      Alexa--Thank you for offering your insights into what affiliates want and need. That's extremely helpful. I really don't know at this stage whether affiliates will be interested in selling what I have to offer, but if there's a chance, then I want to set it up in a way that works for them, since affiliates are likely to have all sorts of promotion ideas and channels that I don't.

      You're right of course, it's the experienced, savvy affiliates who are the ones I'd prefer to attract. And since I don't have any kind of reputation at the moment, I can certainly understand that affiliates would prefer that their payments were handled by Clickbank (or similar) rather than me.

      Thanks also for sharing your experience with fake urgency (and for the terminology). My mistake was to assume that what I see on other sites actually works and doesn't put people off

      Learning, learning...
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