A High PR Link That Sticks!

by zannix
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Hi Warriors,

I count on all the SEO pros around here to help me out with this one

How to get links from PR3+ pages that actually stick and you have at least some (if not total) control over them?

I'd greatly appreciate any helpful thoughts.

Kind Regards,
Zannix
#method #seo #sticks
  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Unless you are buying the links by the month on sites that sell the links... Good luck with that....
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    • Profile picture of the author zannix
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      Unless you are buying the links by the month on sites that sell the links... Good luck with that....
      Are you saying there's no way to do this without spending hundreds of $ per month?
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  • Profile picture of the author DPM70
    Get some of your own sites / pages to PR3 then link from them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Page ranks don't mean much nowadays, Zannix.

    People selling backlinks would love us not to know that, but unfortunately for them we can see it for ourselves, from the regularity with which lower-PR pages (often with fewer backlinks) are outranking higher-PR pages (often with more backlinks) in Google's SERP's.

    What matters to linkjuice is mostly relevance, nowadays.
    There's no big mystery about it.

    Numbers of backlinks alone, and especially page ranks, are actually pretty unimportant. And gradually getting less important, too. Google says that's intentional, and will continue. Meanwhile, a lot of backlink sellers (some of whom call themselves "SEO consultants", these days - you can imagine! :rolleyes: ) don't like this being pointed out, for obvious reasons.

    I'm among the many Warriors here who keep saying that we'd be delighted if Google just abolished page rank altogether rather than continually devaluing its significance further and further all the time while pretending it still means much. (Don't think that will happen, though!).

    Possibly this thread will help you? http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-confused.html
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    • Profile picture of the author zannix
      Alexa, your answers keep shocking me. :O

      P.S - Could you link to any official sources supporting your theory about relevance and pageranks?
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by zannix View Post

        Alexa, your answers keep shocking me.
        That's because the ultimate source of all your beliefs is the urban myth school of internet marketing, as regurgitated by people promoting themselves and their services, Zannix.

        Originally Posted by zannix View Post

        P.S - Could you link to any official sources supporting your theory about relevance and pageranks?
        Not this time, I'm afraid: this issue's so simple and clear-cut that I've never bothered to compile any. Everything I've ever learned about it from "official" sources has only ever confirmed what I'd already seen for myself (as had others whose knowledge of this subject my own experiences have taught me to trust and respect). As I said above, there's no mystery about it.

        If you do what I and large numbers of others here do, and look in the first place at authoritative sources such as Google's WebMaster Blog, videos of Matt Cutts "explaining stuff to the masses" and so on, rather than second-hand information in forums where people are promoting SEO services and endlessly regurgitating (in support of them) every urban myth of internet marketing you've ever heard in your life, and then some, you'll have an entirely new perspective.

        This is similar to the conversation you and I have been having, on and off for months now, about "duplicate content". It says openly on Google's WebMaster blog that "duplicate content doesn't cause your site to be penalized" (I've linked to it in other threads - those are the exact words), but all the people who get their information from the zeitgeist instead of from an authoritative source still imagine that their sites will be penalized for duplicate content over article submissions, and that they'll somehow benefit if they "spin" them, and that it's a good idea to use automated mass-submissions to article directories, and all sorts of crap and nonsense like this ... and that's because the zeitgeist is formed by people who are promoting so-called SEO services and have a direct financial motivation in perpetuating and propagating all these ill-informed and grotesquely misguided beliefs which actually serve, collectively, to prevent people from earning a living. The same applies, to some extent (not to the same extent, I admit), to page ranks.

        This stuff is self-evident, Zannix: you can verify it for yourself. Most people just don't bother, partly because it's easier just to repeat things they've been told by people selling services. They must all be "experts", after all, right? They say so themselves, and you can't get more authentic than that, can you?!

        I'm very much hoping that you'll take this post in the amicable spirit in which it's intended and appreciate that absolutely no impoliteness is implied. I mean it only helpfully: I'm (still!!) trying to remove your self-imposed blindfold and show you the real world, but it isn't easy at all.

        By the way, I now happen to have a large number of PR-5 pages of my own (just from getting my articles syndicated to relevant sites) ... but their backlinks aren't much good to my other niche sites because they're not relevant to those sites, and only someone with a financial interest in selling backlinks would pretend that they are - or perhaps someone naive who'd just bought them and had instead an emotional investment in not having wasted all his money. If someone offers you a choice between ten pr-0/pr-1 backlinks from sites relevant to yours, or ten pr-3 backlinks from random sites, will you know which to buy?
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        • Profile picture of the author zannix
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          If someone offers you a choice between ten pr-0/pr-1 backlinks from sites relevant to yours, or ten pr-3 backlinks from random sites, will you know which to buy?
          I hope I will, soon enough. By the way, are there any good online courses/resources on article syndication you could recommend?
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by zannix View Post

            By the way, are there any good online courses/resources on article syndication you could recommend?
            Yes ... this one is very good (that's not an affiliate link, of course). Oops, Big Mike's quite right, we're in the wrong part of the forum, here ...
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