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Doherty192

13 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

...but today, you get it for free.

Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? Well, it's ridiculous on your sales page too!

Ha! So true!

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MissTerraK 13 years ago

I agree!

Those are the types of statements on sales pages that keep me moving right along and thinking, nothing to see here!

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- Itachi 13 years ago
  
  HAHA ! yea I absolutely agree... sometimes it feels so ridiculous like this plugin worth 47$+this sale pageworth 27$+this ebook worth 37$+ etc never ending for finally a total bonus package of 17589$ and today(exclusive offer) you get this for only a mere 47$ !!!
  
  sometimes it can look nice but don't over do it I mean..
  
  +1 for E. Brian Rose for bringing this up :p
  
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Bill Farnham 13 years ago

Just looking for a review copy, that's all. Just want a review copy...

~Bill
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- E. Brian Rose 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Bill Farnham
  
  Just looking for a review copy, that's all. Just want a review copy...
  
  ~Bill
  
  Typical. You offer something for free and the first request is from somebody that wants a review copy.
  
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tpw

13 years ago

My posts are only worth 2 cents, but you can get them today for $5,000.

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WebPen

13 years ago

That's why my sales page says that my FREE ebook is only worth $1 million.

Duh.

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E. Brian Rose 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Justin Stowe

That's why my sales page says that my FREE ebook is only worth $1 million.

Duh.

Now that's reasonable!
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Jeff Lenney

13 years ago

Can I get a refund please, this just isn't for me...

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Michael Mayo

13 years ago

Brian, You do realize that the moment you posted this thread that it's value
dropped to $11,506.229.02

You can blame in on the economy and the world leaders.

Have a Great Day!
Michael

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J Cohen 13 years ago

I just knew I shouldn't have clicked on the thread but you know us newbies, we can't resist a sucker headline :p

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Jeff Lenney

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Mayo

Brian, You do realize that the moment you posted this thread that it's value
dropped to $11,506.229.02

You can blame in on the economy and the world leaders.

Have a Great Day!
Michael

Personally, I blame the Gurus!

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Michael Oksa

13 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

...but today, you get it for free.

Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? Well, it's ridiculous on your sales page too!

Well, I'm going to go against the grain here, but it's also not exactly what you're talking about, though similar.

You mention people giving this high value stuff for "free", but my example has a seller that charges something for what they offer. Here is the (slightly modified) text.

I normally charge a minimum of $0.05 per word for articles and there are 4,930 words total. You would pay $346.50 just for the articles if you were to purchase them separately. The 25-page guide would be $297. My partner charges $97 to create themes for people, which would be $485.00 for 5 themes. That adds up to a lot of value.

Those prices are very real, and it's made clear that that's what someone would pay if the bought each piece of the offer separately.

Do any of you see a problem with that?

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Michael

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E. Brian Rose

13 years ago

Five cents per word when you are a writer for hire is not the same as selling a book to the masses for five cents per word and it's BS to say otherwise.

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Michael Oksa

13 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

Five cents per word when you are a writer for hire is not the same as selling a book to the masses for five cents per word and it's BS to say so.

But where does the quote say that? Is it not okay for someone to mention what they normally get for things? I don't see any trickery in that quote. It's there to convey the value of the offering and to let people know that it's not some $0.001/word author that slapped a bunch of stuff together.

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E. Brian Rose

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Oksa

But where dose the quote say that? Is it not okay for someone to mention what they normally get for things? I don't see any trickery in that quote. It's there to convey the value of the offering and to let people know that it's not some $0.001/word author that slapped a bunch of stuff together.

All the best,
Michael

When publishing companies advertise books they are selling, do they say, "This author gets $1.25 per word for his Time Magazine articles, so this book has a value of $6,250"?

Of course they don't! Why not? Because it's stupid and they suspect that their target audience would feel the same.

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Michael Oksa

13 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

When publishing companies advertise books they are selling, do they say, "This author gets $1.25 per word for his Time Magazine articles, so this book has a value of $6,250"?

Of course they don't! Why not? Because it's stupid and they suspect that their target audience would feel the same.

I get what you're saying, and here is where I see the difference: I don't think those dots are quite connected in that way. What it says is that a certain number of words and themes are valued at X, but it doesn't say "THIS offer is valued at Y instead of X and therefore you are saving Z".

It doesn't flat out say that the current offer has a certain value. The main purpose is to show that the two people who created the package charge a certain amount for their stuff, and that it isn't cheap stuff that people will be getting.

But I'm guessing you're going to say "that's stupid" too.

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Michael

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E. Brian Rose

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Oksa

I get what you're saying, and here is where I see the difference: I don't think those dots are quite connected in that way. What it says is that a certain number of words and themes are valued at X, but it doesn't say "THIS offer is valued at Y instead of X and therefore you are saving Z".

When all else fails, use algebra to confuse your debate opponent.

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Michael Oksa 13 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

When all else fails, use algebra to confuse your debate opponent.

When all else fails, brush off a legitimate response. You win.
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Bill Farnham

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Oksa

But I'm guessing you're going to say "that's stupid" too.

Michael,

Perhaps if you included an amortized schedule of the cost of the computer that was used to type the words up it would help your argument.

Especially if it was a really expensive Mac. :p

~Bill

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Michael Oksa

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Bill Farnham

Michael,

Perhaps if you included an amortized schedule of the cost of the computer that was used to type the words up it would help your argument.

Especially if it was a really expensive Mac. :p

~Bill

But the value of the writing comes from the author, not the type of computer it was written on. I see nothing wrong with my example. The point is to show that it was written and created by people who don't sell cheap stuff.

Perhaps it's a matter of semantics, but I could have a problem with it if it didn't say "...if you were to purchase them separately", and if it said that the value of the package itself was the same as if it were a custom job. But because both of those points are satisfied, I really don't think that's what EBR is even talking about in the OP. (At least not the way I'm reading it.)

All the best,
Michael

p.s. As opposed to a really cheap Mac?

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Michael Oksa

13 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

When publishing companies advertise books they are selling, do they say, "This author gets $1.25 per word for his Time Magazine articles, so this book has a value of $6,250"?

Of course they don't! Why not? Because it's stupid and they suspect that their target audience would feel the same.

You're right for the most part.

BUT...

They sure as heck do say things like "Author of Best Sellers such as 'This Book Rocks' and 'The Most Awesomest Book Ever'", or "Mrs. Author has sold 3,000,000 copies of her books" (or variations thereof).

But that doesn't mean the current book will be a best seller, or sell that many copies. So, why do they do THAT?

All the best,
Michael

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DianaHeuser

13 years ago

I read the book but I have not made the $12m. Was I supposed to do any work?

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Jeff Lenney 13 years ago

Originally Posted by DianaHeuser

I read the book but I have not made the $12m. Was I supposed to do any work?

You forgot to do 3 honest clicks of your mouse didnt you Diana! Tisk tisk
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J Cohen

13 years ago

Quote:
I normally charge a minimum of $0.05 per word for articles and there are 4,930 words total. You would pay $346.50 just for the articles if you were to purchase them separately. The 25-page guide would be $297. My partner charges $97 to create themes for people, which would be $485.00 for 5 themes. That adds up to a lot of value.
Those prices are very real, and it's made clear that that's what someone would pay if the bought each piece of the offer separately.

Like you said Michael the prices are very real so I wouldn't have a problem with that however $12,076,227.05 (or something similar) and it's free. Even in my short time on here I have learn't to take most sales pages and claims with a pinch of salt and look further into the actual product.

Jay

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pacelattin

13 years ago

This post just cost me $50 of my time

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Shannon Herod

13 years ago

That is possible the best post I have seen all year! Thanks for the laugh Brian

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Rob Howard

13 years ago

Brian, do you have any proof? A screenshot or a video of you logging in and showing us your bank account and paypal will probably do. Before I jump in and read your post, I need a guarantee I'll make money on it.

Rob

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Rose Anderson

13 years ago

Brian,

I was just about to send the $12,076,227.05 to your paypal account when I saw the word "free"....whew.....close one.

Rose

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triojobss

Banned 13 years ago

Hey, I would like to request a review copy

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Daniel Evans 13 years ago

I didn't realize the website valuing tool worked for posts too!
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- Michael Oksa 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by webcore
  
  I didn't realize the website valuing tool worked for posts too!
  
  LOL
  
  Good call!
  
  Combining that tool with what EBR is talking about could create sales letters that are even more outrageous.
  
  It would have the added benefit of providing "proof" of value to anybody who asked for it.
  
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Rod Cortez

13 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

...but today, you get it for free.

Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? Well, it's ridiculous on your sales page too!

You just gave birth to my next WSO, but it will only be worth $12,076,226. lol

RoD

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Istvan Horvath

13 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

...but today, you get it for free.

Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? Well, it's ridiculous on your sales page too!

But wait! For a limited time if you act now you will get as a big BONUS my post, too - and it's priceless (although it has been valued $8,674,932.17 by independent, non-biased, happy customers).

Act now!

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Psst

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

...but today, you get it for free.

Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? Well, it's ridiculous on your sales page too!

A good looking sales or squeeze page is better than a bad looking one, right?

OK, silly question. Here's a better one... What do your pages look like?

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JennySweets

13 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

...but today, you get it for free.

Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? Well, it's ridiculous on your sales page too!

maybe I'm easily amused but..

I just shot imaginary pepsi out my nose reading this LOL

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sbucciarel

Banned 13 years ago

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