Multiple Clickbank accounts? Why?

13 years ago

I've had 1 account and get steady commissions. Sometimes it seems you dont see commissions for days or weeks and then suddenly things pick up. Now, my account seems to have stabilized to steady commission. Thats how CB is.

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Branlan17 13 years ago

Yeah I don't know, it's sort of a conspiracy theory: CB waits until you are making steady sales (so you think "affiliate marketing is working" and are sending them consistent sales) then stops crediting them to you, and takes your cut... I don't personally buy into this but some people swear as soon as they make new accounts they start getting commissions again.

I finally got an affiliate site making passive income (albeit just 4-5 sales per week) and now I'd have 4 days without sales and I start to get nervous and wonder if anything has changed but most likely this is just natural fluctuation and the people who change out their links are getting a sort of placebo effect even though they would have made the sales on their first account had they just waited.

Personally, it's tough to FINALLY see my work pay off and then worry about "what ifs", but I plan on just plugging away, I'd rather spend the hour it would take me to change out all of my links and put it towards backlinking or getting another site setup than chasing rumors.
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webapex

13 years ago

Some merchants manipulate their gravity by making sales through multiple CD accounts, when fresh a sale through each account can add 1 to their gravity.

Reportedly some merchants use a script to randomly shift the commission to different affiliates, rather than giving one super affiliate a bunch of sales commissions.

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ronaldmd

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Branlan17

Yeah I don't know, it's sort of a conspiracy theory: CB waits until you are making steady sales (so you think "affiliate marketing is working" and are sending them consistent sales) then stops crediting them to you, and takes your cut... I don't personally buy into this but some people swear as soon as they make new accounts they start getting commissions again.

I finally got an affiliate site making passive income (albeit just 4-5 sales per week) and now I'd have 4 days without sales and I start to get nervous and wonder if anything has changed but most likely this is just natural fluctuation and the people who change out their links are getting a sort of placebo effect even though they would have made the sales on their first account had they just waited.

Personally, it's tough to FINALLY see my work pay off and then worry about "what ifs", but I plan on just plugging away, I'd rather spend the hour it would take me to change out all of my links and put it towards backlinking or getting another site setup than chasing rumors.

There's always possibility that CB shaves.

Originally Posted by webapex

Some merchants manipulate their gravity by making sales through multiple CD accounts, when fresh a sale through each account can add 1 to their gravity.

This is what I know too.

Originally Posted by webapex

Reportedly some merchants use a script to randomly shift the commission to different affiliates, rather than giving one super affiliate a bunch of sales commissions.

From what I know, they shift the commission to their own other accounts, aka commission stealing.

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Sleaklight

13 years ago

I have a couple and use different ones to track certain products. Easier, for me, to track and manage stuff that way.

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gudrunsmith

13 years ago

Originally Posted by baokhau

Some people create multi CB accounts for their affiliate marketing path. I wonder why we just need a single account

They may have a vendor and an affiliate account.

But I don't know why the Gurus show all the time multi CB accounts, the question is, is it their account or someone else?

It sells good, to tell how much money they make in each account, but what is the true????

I only have one account by the way.

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Jeff Baxter

13 years ago

Originally Posted by gudrunsmith

They may have a vendor and an affiliate account.

But I don't know why the Gurus show all the time multi CB accounts, the question is, is it their account or someone else?

It sells good, to tell how much money they make in each account, but what is the true????

I only have one account by the way.

They show you those different accounts because they are connected with different product launches they had. They then get you to think the income from those different CB accounts are from the system they are about to show you.

Ouch. I know.

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CDarklock 12 years ago

Originally Posted by gudrunsmith

But I don't know why the Gurus show all the time multi CB accounts

Testing. You rotate among several accounts so you can get clean results. If you are using one ID on all your websites, you need to use a different one to prove that some particular traffic method is working, and then another one to prove that a particular piece of sales copy is working, and then another one to use on Twitter and social media to track that... you get the idea.

When you nail down a way to make buttloads of cash on Twitter, you can immediately write it all down and screenshot your Twitter CB account to honestly show what you made on Twitter with your method.
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nt10000

12 years ago

I'm a CB vendor and would like to allocate any direct sales I make to my affiliates .. ie. those sales which arrive on my site from search etc. Does anyone know if such a script exists? The script must recognize visitors which came from hoplinks so that they still get the commission, but if there is no affiliate associated with a visitor the script would automatically (and randomly) take an affiliate ID from the list I have made and allocate the sale to one of them. Obviously I am doing this to increase my gravity but on the flip side it would mean I no longer get direct sales and therefore 100% of the profit (less CB fees). If there is such a script would it breech the CB TOS and get my account terminated? TIA.

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Miguelito203

12 years ago

Originally Posted by baokhau

Some people create multi CB accounts for their affiliate marketing path. I wonder why we just need a single account

Some people have separate accounts in order to stay organized. For instance, they might create a new account for every niche or want a main account for their main niche but have a second account to test ideas out when trying new methods and so on.

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GeorgR.

12 years ago

They make so much money they need to split earnings across multiple accounts

But...in all seriousness..it could be "shady" stuff like artificially "rotating" accounts to inflate gravity...or simply for organizational purposes.

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Brendan Vraibel

12 years ago

I also have multiple accounts for products that I create with JV partners. It's just far easier to do that and give both parties the log in info than any other way.

While some of the reasons may be shady, not all of them are.

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J Bold

12 years ago

Originally Posted by B and B

I also have multiple accounts for products that I create with JV partners. It's just far easier to do that and give both parties the log in info than any other way.

While some of the reasons may be shady, not all of them are.

Clickbank now has a handy JV tool so you don't have to "share" accounts with others, just split profits using the JV contract tool, or whatever they call it.

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xxxJamesxxx

12 years ago

I have multiple accounts... One for each product I sell.

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KohenD

12 years ago

For me its not really an issue of shaving. I have done a lot of tests and I know tha shaving is minimal. Sometimes you dont get credited and more then often its because of someone else is cookiestuffing or stealing your commissions.

Now the reason for multiple accounts is actually because it helps me to keep things organised and just logistically its easier to have 1 account per 1 product.

I think at first this isnt really needed, but when you enter 3 figures per day with 1 product and you have 5 or more products you are pushing, this becomes needed.

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Eleanor

12 years ago

Multiple CB accounts are usually only useful if you are targeting a variety of niches (as an affiliate) or are selling multiple products (as a vendor).

I have a few accounts (about 3 or 4) and find it much easier to separate my earnings so that if I do need to show earnings proof (or organise myself for the tax man) it's easier to see where each sale has come from with separate accounts, rather than having to sift through one MASSIVE list of transactions on a single account.

Just my thoughts...

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Antonios

12 years ago

As CB affiliates having several accounts could save us from losing our account with several products being promoted through it.

I had only one account as an CB affiliate and promoted several products from different vendors with it.

I had dozens of links all over the world wide web for each product.

I had a bad time having several refund requests from those "one click" button magic products that I was promoting.

This brought me to a negative account.

I didn't know this.

When I was informed that my account was closed because of this, I was willing to pay the negative.

But, once an account is closed, it is a permanent action.
And they don't accept those payments.

CB advised me to open another account with another nickname.

I have hundreds of links promoting products with the closed nickname.

Lost sales forever.

Antonios

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Ralf Skirr

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Antonios

As CB affiliates having several accounts could save us from losing our account with several products being promoted through it.

I had only one account as an CB affiliate and promoted several products from different vendors with it.

I had dozens of links all over the world wide web for each product.

I had a bad time having several refund requests from those "one click" button magic products that I was promoting.

This brought me to a negative account.

I didn't know this.

When I was informed that my account was closed because of this, I was willing to pay the negative.

But, once an account is closed, it is a permanent action.
And they don't accept those payments.

CB advised me to open another account with another nickname.

I have hundreds of links promoting products with the closed nickname.

Lost sales forever.

Antonios

Antonios,

here's a great tip how to never lose an affiliate link again:

never use the actual affiliat link on your web site or in your promotional materials. Instead use a link that leads to your own site, and from there redirect it to the actual product page.

That gives you the opportunity to change a link target at anytime.

For example, if you had done this in your past promotions, you would now simply go to YOUR site and change all links to your new CB nickname. People would click the link in your old promotions, come to your site, and quickly be redirected to your new CB link - earning you the commission.

Hope this helps
Ralf

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Ben Gordon

12 years ago

Usually CB vendors create separate CB accounts because they own multiple products. There are many reasons for this. Firstly, it's much easier to track the product in its own separate CB account and if anything happens to one account, they won't lose all their products.

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kimfal

12 years ago

Thanks for you advice in here Ralf Skirr, I only use one CB nickname but I will try your suggestion and also use more then one CB nickname!

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evantanski

12 years ago

If youre wanting multiple CB accounts for tracking purposes you might find it simpler to use the Tracking IDs when creating your hoplinks. CB analytics make it easier to split click-thrus etc when using tracking ids.

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12 years ago

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Antonios 12 years ago

Ralf:

Thank you for advice.

I had used that technic.

But I have had to use the principle of "success is to keep on even with adversity"

And Murphy's Law: when something bad is going to happen it happens in the worst conditions.

I had a website and was doing some subdomain urls with CB and dotcom.

But I was using a domain and hosting reseller and they went out of business without notice and I lost my website with all in there.

Then I had and ad tracking and cloaking service with CB an other affiliate urls.

But had a payment problem, and they cancelled my account.

When I cleared things up, they told me that when an account was closed or cancelled everything was lost forever. That I had to open a new account start from the beginning.

I am adjusting on how to really have secure CB and other affiliate links.

Antonios
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