Marketer Gone Stupid?

Damn that is crazy 28 emails in the first 19 days of October is insane, my guess is he probably sold his list OR he is having a problem with his AR.

but my main guess is he sold his business along with the email list and the person who now has the email list does not know what they are doing

Kay, I think I know who that may be, because this started happening about a month ago. I now get 2 or 3 emails from him every day, and there is now a business name on the emails, but he still owns the business.

I am starting to unsubscribe from most lists. If I were to spend just one minute looking at each email I get, it would take over 6 hours each day. Usually I hit delete, delete, delete.

There are a few (mostly warriors) whose emails I always read. They always give good, useful info each time.

I need to continue unsubscribing.

:-Don

...or maybe they had more success than usual on a specific mailing and have now been blinded by greed.

Greed can be a good thing, but it's also powerful. When that power falls into the wrong hands crazy things can happen. That's my guess as to what's going on with this particular marketer.

All the best,
Michael

There's a list of emails on Flippa. I mean, people will try and fail with email marketing... what do they have left to do? They'll turn to the easiest methods of making money. Like a catchy ad on Flippa... selling their whole list. Unethical, illegal, and disgusting.

Best Regards,
vip-ip ...

Wow! even 10 emails a month is too much for me! I hate a cluttered mailbox, but 28 in 19 days? WTF!

I'd say he is either hacked, sold the list, or broke.

Wow, I would have clicked the unsubscribe button too!

Michele, WOW! It's good to see you here again!
How have you been doing?

I hope all is well with you and yours.

Have a Great Day!
Michael

Any chance the name begins with an "I"?

I don't know if I'm on the same list. I actually think I have gotten quite a bit more than the number you gave.

Hi guys I am not sure if you are aware of this but several of the "gurus" have put out recently that you should email you list with valuable content at least once a day. So that people do not forget who you are and so that you can offer them more value. I believe that a lot of people that are just affiliate marketing have taken that to mean just make offers at least once a day. I have been getting this too, by the way.

So he might not have gone crazy, but I do not believe that he is offering his list the best value that he could. He could do a little more besides just tout off about the WSO. Like maybe talk about using the forum or how to find little gems of a thread, besides just trying to sell the next WSO. That being said if he is not been doing well with his email marketing he may have just gotten some of this bad info and is now trying this approach instead.

If you like what he was doing before then contact him and let him know. That will let him learn from his mistake. Or he can create a sub list with all the clients that liked how he did things before. Or just unsubscribe. Either way he will get the message soon enough.

Just my thoughts on this. =D

At that rate, I'm surprised he still has a list for people to notice. You all have way more patience than I do.

Is there any way to block specific mailing domains within cPanel? Perhaps this is an irrelevant question, but, I've been battling a similar problem. I've tried unsubscribing from a similar mailing list, and used the link, but I think it just confirmed that I'm a live account. But all of the spam comes from the same domain name. I need to block it.

Thanks.

Best Regards,
vip-ip ...

Don't sign up for Dan Kennedys lists then. He likes to send out volume.

Not that I would say sending out 1 email a day or several emails a day would be a good strategy for email marketing, although it could be depending on your end goal in mind.

But... doesn't the warrior forum send out their WSO of The Day offer, once per day? Sometimes TWICE per day? With no beneficial content except the news of what the WSO of the day is.

Maybe that doesn't piss people off because they clearly tell you they'll be sending you an email at least once per day... it's called WSO of the Day for a reason.

In fact, all deal of the day websites send you one email per day, sometimes multiple depending on their structure.

It's interesting to note though, how it's deemed acceptable for some to do it, while it's not deemed acceptable for others to do it. I guess that goes back to the whole purpose of "permission marketing". If you sign up to someones list and they clearly tell you they'll be bombarding your email address with daily emails, sometimes multiple emails per day, and you still sign up to it, you've given them permission to do it and therefore are ok with it.

Lesson learned and mental note taken I'm not the sender of those emails by the way!

Although, I'd bet anything they've seen more money in the past 20 days than they've seen normally.

Sad but true... sad.... BUT ... TRUE

5 e-mails per day !!! Poor you...he really wantы to be noticeable!

I remember being advised NOT to try to unsubscribe from a mailing list. That to try to do so will just show the sender that you are being noticed and if they are unscrubulous they will not grant your request anyhow. This is the way I have followed, just click them out everyday. But I do admit I am resentful that I have to do this everyday and if I miss even one, there are hundreds of messages in my inbox, both unsolicited and unwanted

While I'm just getting started, and have some emails I simply cannot live without there's 2 things I consider when on a list.

1.) Are they sending me something I can find value in? (paid or not)
2.) Are they simply just throwing their garbage in my inbox, hoping for a sale?

None-the-less, I found a simple solution, and I might be a prick for this, but if they get under my skin, I don't "opt-out" anymore!

Nope, simple filter, "skip the inbox" and while it may not be much, email marketing costs money!

If your gonna abuse it, you should pay for it. So I'll let em send me emails til the cows come home, I just won't ever see them!

Then there's those who actually send me some killer info that I really feel "guilty" because I can't afford the $197 right now. Although I stay opted-in looking forward to digging deeper into their offer, when time and money permits. Many, I already know I will buy, for it's almost easy to see which offers hold great benefits, and are worth far more value than the price of admission.

Not to name names, but the DOE is a prime example. I can't wait to get in there!

Truth be told, up til now, I was 'scared' to mail to my lists. And as such, didn't focus enough on building them... which is an utter FAIL!

Now, with some time and research, I am going wide-open on a mission to list build, and start managing prospects. With the help of those here, I think I've learned "what NOT to do!"

And I'll still probably make plenty of mistakes!

Great Share Kay!

All the Best,

Art

Sounds like desperation to me. Either that or his autoresponder service has gotten reallly buggy and the marketer isn't aware of it (which goes to show you that you should place at least a couple of your own e-mails on your own lists so you can see what's going down).

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Maybe they sold their list to someone on Fiverr.

I'm kidding, but talking about Marketer gone stupid, I was shocked to find out people are selling email lists on Fiverr. One of Tiff Dow's readers mentioned it in a comment on her blog so I checked it out and yep it's going on.

A 180,000 email list on Fiverr. After Fiverr and PayPal fees what does the seller get around $3.80? Is that even a penny per subscriber?

I feel bad for the people on that list!

If you're up front at the time of opt-in that you'll email every day then people won't/shouldn't get mad when you email every day. So that's a little different from Kay's OP where this person went from sending 1-10 emails per month to sending almost 30 in less than three weeks. With the quality of the content of the emails dropping to boot.

Good...natural (self) selection at work. They'll email themselves out of business. We don't have to lift a finger. Except to unsub.

BTW, while I feel the WarriorPlus affiliate program is a plus overall, it has given rise to (newbie) Warriors who are so blatantly amateurish in their attempt to sound like a pro that it's laughable.

And it's given rise to what I'd call "forum leeches": nothing to say in their emails but some inane gibberish in an attempt to sound friendly/personally at the start of the email, then they ZAP! you with WSOs.

I have given up on buying WSOs...unless they come highly recommended by names I deem respectable. Then again, if THESE start to go the same route, then they'll drop to the bottom of the heap, just like the rest of them.

Cheers...

there is this popular warrior whose products I've bought and I was happy to get on his list because he gave lots of value...however, he started emailing 2-3 times per day. He lost me as a subscriber, I'm sorry.

List builders should take lessons from Paul Myers and how he treats those who subscribe to his TalkBiz News. He writes a proper newsletter. Sure there are self-promotional links, as well as a few affiliate offers. But he treats his list with respect, doesn't inundate you with multiple mails per day, and he gives you quality info.

I suggest that people who aren't on Paul's list subscribe, if for no other reason than to learn how it's supposed to be done.

I think i'm actually on the same list as you where. I know who this is, and he is a WF member. I won't say his name ofcourse

I'm also on the same list, did wonder why he was emailing so frequently. His products are good and I find the information valuable. But at the moment, he seems to jus to be spamming wso related offers...